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Title: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 03:56:27 PM
I'm starting to think that I have found the toughest pork butt there is. Right now, it's been in the Bradley for 25 hours. It was about 7.5 lbs and the temp on it is only up to 184. This one should have been ground up for sausage the way it looks. Sure does smell good though!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: OU812 on December 01, 2009, 04:05:47 PM
Have you tried the fork test, some times they are done but still not 195 F
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 04:13:23 PM
Yup, tried the fork test at 183. This sucker is just being stubborn OU, thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Wildcat on December 01, 2009, 04:17:12 PM
What cabinet temp are you cooking at? Better yet, what are you utilizing to monitor the cabinet temp? It could be that you are cooking at a lower temp than you think. As long as you are cooking at 190 or above, it will eventually get done. Also, what rack position are you using?
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ronbeaux on December 01, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
Strange as it seems, there ARE tough pork butts that will fight you to the end. Don't worry. You will win as long as you don't loose power. I cook at 250 in my comp pits and the last time I cooked for a crowd I had 8 in there. 7 got done like you set your watch and that last one went 3 more hours before it gave up.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 04:29:21 PM
I'm using the Auber PID and it's holding right at 230 on the rack where the butt is. The Maverick temp has been pretty close to the same all the time. I think Ron is right, some times you just get a tough piece of meat. It's to the point it's getting pretty funny. Never finished one in the pressure cooker, but there's always a 1st time.  ;D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Wildcat on December 01, 2009, 05:02:40 PM
I have had a couple to be stubborn in getting up to temp, but none have turned up tough in texture as long as I had enough fat. I'd just let it continue to render. Let it get done when it does. Should turn out fine.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: westexasmoker on December 01, 2009, 05:05:03 PM
Yep it'll get there, brisket's can be the same way...some will fight ya!

C
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 05:27:16 PM
Well things are moving right along here. It's all the way up to 188.  ;D I'm thinkin that at 190 I stick a fork in it again.  ::)
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
25@230?  and counting?  That's seriously stubborn... :o
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ronbeaux on December 01, 2009, 05:31:17 PM
Yep, that one will be a 190 butt. That's why I always say 190ish.

Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
25@230?  and counting?  That's seriously stubborn... :o

Forgot to mention, I bumped the temp up to 240 to get this far!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 05:36:43 PM
Well, at least this gives you time to stop... reflect... and name an heir to that butt...
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Smokin Soon on December 01, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
I bought a package of 2 butts last week, about 19 pounds i think. Did an overnight smoke, put them in about 4:30pm, smoked for 4 hours, changed out the water bowl and went to bed. Strangely enough the one on the top rack got to 190 at 11am the next day. The one at the bottom that is usually the first did not get to 190 until 2pm! Blame the pig not the cooker!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: FLBentRider on December 01, 2009, 05:38:37 PM
I've had them do that too.

A four to five hour difference on the same cook.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: squirtthecat on December 01, 2009, 05:42:59 PM

I had one go 22 hours as well, and that was in the dead of summer.   

Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 05:44:38 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 05:36:43 PM
Well, at least this gives you time to stop... reflect... and name an heir to that butt...

Yup, at this rate I'll done way before that butt will!

Quote from: Smokin Soon on December 01, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
I bought a package of 2 butts last week, about 19 pounds i think. Did an overnight smoke, put them in about 4:30pm, smoked for 4 hours, changed out the water bowl and went to bed. Strangely enough the one on the top rack got to 190 at 11am the next day. The one at the bottom that is usually the first did not get to 190 until 2pm! Blame the pig not the cooker!

Believe me, the pig is at fault! It's always his fault.  :D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: squirtthecat on December 01, 2009, 05:46:55 PM

Well, be sure to shred it and eat it, as an example to the other butts...  ;)

Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ronbeaux on December 01, 2009, 05:47:06 PM
So when do we get to see the 'baby' pictures??
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 06:03:48 PM
OK, it hit 190 after 27 hours and the fork said it's done. Here's a couple pics and it's resting right now for a while before I pull it. By the way, the bark is pretty darned tasty!  ;D

(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/HawkeyeSmokes/Tough%20Pork%20Butt/ToughPorkButt001.jpg)

(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/HawkeyeSmokes/Tough%20Pork%20Butt/ToughPorkButt002.jpg)

(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/HawkeyeSmokes/Tough%20Pork%20Butt/ToughPorkButt003.jpg)

Thanks for all the kind words every one!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Smokin Soon on December 01, 2009, 07:18:12 PM
My last "marathon butt" taught me to plan 1 day ahead of any "event". When you think that 16 hours is perfect, here comes that stubborn butt! Cook, smoke, vac seal, and be the hero later!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 07:35:15 PM
The good guys always win. That butt looks great. I've been reading this since the first post and I had my money on you. ;D

Looks awesome Hawkeye, nice color.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
I had my money on the butt...
It's ok.. I don't really need any new winter shoes....
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 08:19:22 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
I had my money on the butt...
It's ok.. I don't really need any new winter shoes....

Sorry about the winter shoes Hal. I was thinking I could have sent you this piece of pig for new soles before it got done. But by the time it's all over, the SOP (Son Of Pig) was pretty darned good. Some of the best bark on Q that I've had!  ;D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:24:55 PM
hal, that should teach you a lesson, never mess with a pig ... they will sqeaul on you.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 08:31:06 PM
Quote from: squirtthecat on December 01, 2009, 05:46:55 PM

Well, be sure to shred it and eat it, as an example to the other butts...  ;)



Squirt, pork butts are running scared here after they seen what happened to this bad boy!  :D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 08:36:55 PM
No biggie.
I can cross the frozen Illinois tundra barefoot...
Ya win some... Ya lose some...  right?

Getting beat by a dadgum pig is what hurts.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 08:36:55 PM
No biggie.
I can cross the frozen Illinois tundra barefoot...
Ya win some... Ya lose some...  right?

Getting beat by a dadgum pig is what hurts.

After fighting that SOP for 27 hours, did you think I might let him win? Hell No!!  :D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:43:10 PM
SOP ! ;D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 08:48:59 PM
I knew who was gonna win...
I just figgered you'd have a better chance at consuming the prize if something else was tied to the whipping post ;-)
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Wow Hawkeye, that's over 3.5 hours/pound.  I'll bet it's gonna be great.

You came, you smoked, you conquered!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
That's what that pig was singing .... "Tie me to the whipping post"
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 09:05:43 PM
Well, that prize went to the whipping post, done got beat, and then done got ate! Took the fight right out of him!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
That's what that pig was singing .... "Tie me to the whipping post" Sometimes I feel like I'm dyin'

Allman Brothers. 

OK, I hijacked but the danged marathon pig has been eaten already.  So, I'll go OT and try to fit this in here.

There's an outdoor concert center in the next town (city) over.  Maybe 5-6 years ago the Allman Brothers played there.  There's a stage, quite a few rows of fold up chairs in front of the stage and then the blanket area in back.  I sprung for the chairs.  I forget how much, but maybe $15 per chair.  We were probably 15-20 feet from the stage.  A very great and memorable performance.

I'm done now.  Back to marathon butt.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 09:36:37 PM
Arnie, they were and still are awesome. Hijacked?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band

Dickie Betts almost sounds like Pork Butts.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
That's what that pig was singing .... "Tie me to the whipping post" Sometimes I feel like I'm dyin'

Allman Brothers. 

OK, I hijacked but the danged marathon pig has been eaten already.  So, I'll go OT and try to fit this in here.

There's an outdoor concert center in the next town (city) over.  Maybe 5-6 years ago the Allman Brothers played there.  There's a stage, quite a few rows of fold up chairs in front of the stage and then the blanket area in back.  I sprung for the chairs.  I forget how much, but maybe $15 per chair.  We were probably 15-20 feet from the stage.  A very great and memorable performance.

I'm done now.  Back to marathon butt.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 09:36:37 PM
Arnie, they were and still are awesome. Hijacked?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band

Dickie Betts almost sounds like Pork Butts.

Hijacked? Heck, that pig don't care no more. He gave up, got ate and I'm happy!  ;D As far as I concerned, threads go OT all the time. It's not a big deal at all! The only thing I'm worried about is that 13lb brisket I plan on starting tomorrow. Might be Friday before it gets done.  ::)
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 09:54:06 PM
Well now you know how to hang. You'll have fun with that one too.  G/L
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 10:01:48 PM
CRG - Thanks for the link on the Allman Brothers.  Nice background info.

Hawkeye, sounds like you're into 24-28 hours on the brisket.  Can I come and visit?
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:03:18 PM
Shoulda known better than using lyrics...
(like they would sneak past CRG...)
See?  I got all y'all hijackers in trouble....
I'll behave better in the future.  Really.  Trust me.

But... didja save the chairs?  They'll go big on EBay...
And... think real hard now...  Didja see the Virgin Mary in the "seat wrinkles" when ya stood up?
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 10:01:48 PM
CRG - Thanks for the link on the Allman Brothers.  Nice background info.

Hawkeye, sounds like you're into 24-28 hours on the brisket.  Can I come and visit?

Come on over Arnie. I thinking if you leave before noon tomorrow, you will be here way before that brisket gets done. I have lot's of Seemore's peanuts made up so you will have snacks until it's ready. Oh, and some beef jerky too!  ;D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:08:41 PM
By the way, CRG, Hal and all the rest, come on over too. Let's make it a party!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:11:37 PM
I'm coming too ..... Save some peanuts!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:14:35 PM
Where you at, Hawkeye?

I gotta make a mountain run this weekend...
Don't tell CRG, he'll die with envy...
Gonna see Andy Williams.
Awrighten.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Quarlow on December 01, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Yeehawww goin' to a hoedown.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 01, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Yeehawww goin' to a hoedown.

We had a dance once and the singer said we gonna have a hoedown and all the girls hit the floor.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:11:37 PM
I'm coming too ..... Save some peanuts!

I'll do my best CRG. If I run out before ya get, stop at Sam's and get a couple jumbo cans of Planters and a gallon of Franks Red Hot. We can make some more in no time!  ;D

Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:14:35 PM
Where you at, Hawkeye?

I gotta make a mountain run this weekend...
Don't tell CRG, he'll die with envy...
Gonna see Andy Williams.
Awrighten.

I'm in WI there Hal. We got some hills that people might call mountains, switch back roads and all! 
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 01, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Yeehawww goin' to a hoedown.

We had a dance once and the singer said we gonna have a hoedown and all the girls hit the floor.

:D :D :D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
Hit-da-Flo-Liquor-sto...
(oops,, wrong thread)
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:21:53 PM
WI?  Whereabouts?
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:22:37 PM
Have been to Rantu?
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:25:51 PM
Little town of Mondovi 20 miles south of Eau Claire! Unless your a Bengals fan, no one has heard of Mondovi!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:28:41 PM
Illinois, right?
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:28:41 PM
Illinois, right?

Nope, WISCONSIN, as in Badgers, Packers and CHEESE!!!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:31:01 PM
Found ya...
That ain't entirely out of the realm of "Can Do"...

Pick up Squirt, drop the women folk on Michigan Avenue in Big Windy...
They wouldn't even miss us for a week..
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:34:09 PM
Damn Whiskey .... I knew that, sorry.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
Don't feel bad...
I went to meet some friends in Paris once..
Those goofballs didn't land anywhere near west Tennessee...
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:38:36 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
Don't feel bad...
I went to meet some friends in Paris once..
Those goofballs didn't land anywhere near west Tennessee...

I hate those kinda of people.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:39:42 PM
Well... Bless their hearts...
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 01, 2009, 10:39:58 PM
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:31:01 PM
Found ya...
That ain't entirely out of the realm of "Can Do"...

Pick up Squirt, drop the women folk on Michigan Avenue in Big Windy...
They wouldn't even miss us for a week..

I work near OHare all the time. Takes me a little over 4 hours to get home if traffics not to bad! That can be a big if but most of the time it's still under 5!

Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
Don't feel bad...
I went to meet some friends in Paris once..
Those goofballs didn't land anywhere near west Tennessee...

Didn't they have their GPS on? I even know where west Tenn is at!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:50:33 PM
We're about 4 hours SOUTH of O'Hare...
(Springfield, IL)

Or.. about 5 hours north of Paris, TN ;-)

Now quit acting like you can't find west Tennessee on a map...
Next thing ya know, you'll be saying you can't find KyNola...
And I know, for a fact, he's dead center between Possum Trot and Monkey's Eyebrow...

Go ahead and ask if crazy Hal is makin' that up ;-)  Heck, ask KyNola;-)
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 11:01:53 PM
I think anybody that can write sideways would never make that up.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on December 01, 2009, 11:08:01 PM
Hey HS,

Having read this thread from the biginning and just to hijack this thread again and bring it back to your marathin smoke. I just wanted to say that the best man won.

HR
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 11:11:00 PM
Dang you Hady, we were having fun. ;D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on December 01, 2009, 11:16:55 PM
CRG I just wanted to admire HES for his perseverance. Heck if that had happenned to me (27 hours) I would have given up and ordered chinese.  :D

HR
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 11:19:47 PM
He did a hellofa job, He deserves congrats.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ArnieM on December 02, 2009, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on December 01, 2009, 11:16:55 PM
CRG I just wanted to admire HES for his perseverance. Heck if that had happenned to me (27 hours) I would have given up and ordered chinese.  :D

HR

Hmmm.  Smoked Chinese  ??? ???
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 02, 2009, 11:10:40 AM
Guess I don't give up easy. After all of this, I just started a 13 lb brisket. Hope the cow was lazier than that pig was!  :D
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: Caneyscud on December 02, 2009, 12:48:02 PM
Ya know what they say.   When the tough gets.............errr,  The tough goe................As the world tu...........When the tough get going, the easier get tough............Awwww just set that baby on 225 deg autopilot and wait until that toughness gets melted out.  Brisket Nirvana!
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: OU812 on December 02, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
I new you would kick its butt.  ;D

I have had some go for more than 24 hr before.

Good luck on your brisket.
Title: Re: The World's Toughest Pork Butt!!
Post by: ArnieM on December 02, 2009, 01:16:04 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on December 02, 2009, 11:10:40 AM
Guess I don't give up easy. After all of this, I just started a 13 lb brisket. Hope the cow was lazier than that pig was!  :D
The brisket sounds like a 24-28 hour cook Hawkeye.  I guess you have to plan ahead  :) 

I hope the cow wasn't doing the marathon with the pig  ;D