I'm starting to think that I have found the toughest pork butt there is. Right now, it's been in the Bradley for 25 hours. It was about 7.5 lbs and the temp on it is only up to 184. This one should have been ground up for sausage the way it looks. Sure does smell good though!! :D :D :D
Have you tried the fork test, some times they are done but still not 195 F
Yup, tried the fork test at 183. This sucker is just being stubborn OU, thanks for the suggestion.
What cabinet temp are you cooking at? Better yet, what are you utilizing to monitor the cabinet temp? It could be that you are cooking at a lower temp than you think. As long as you are cooking at 190 or above, it will eventually get done. Also, what rack position are you using?
Strange as it seems, there ARE tough pork butts that will fight you to the end. Don't worry. You will win as long as you don't loose power. I cook at 250 in my comp pits and the last time I cooked for a crowd I had 8 in there. 7 got done like you set your watch and that last one went 3 more hours before it gave up.
I'm using the Auber PID and it's holding right at 230 on the rack where the butt is. The Maverick temp has been pretty close to the same all the time. I think Ron is right, some times you just get a tough piece of meat. It's to the point it's getting pretty funny. Never finished one in the pressure cooker, but there's always a 1st time. ;D
I have had a couple to be stubborn in getting up to temp, but none have turned up tough in texture as long as I had enough fat. I'd just let it continue to render. Let it get done when it does. Should turn out fine.
Yep it'll get there, brisket's can be the same way...some will fight ya!
C
Well things are moving right along here. It's all the way up to 188. ;D I'm thinkin that at 190 I stick a fork in it again. ::)
25@230? and counting? That's seriously stubborn... :o
Yep, that one will be a 190 butt. That's why I always say 190ish.
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
25@230? and counting? That's seriously stubborn... :o
Forgot to mention, I bumped the temp up to 240 to get this far!
Well, at least this gives you time to stop... reflect... and name an heir to that butt...
I bought a package of 2 butts last week, about 19 pounds i think. Did an overnight smoke, put them in about 4:30pm, smoked for 4 hours, changed out the water bowl and went to bed. Strangely enough the one on the top rack got to 190 at 11am the next day. The one at the bottom that is usually the first did not get to 190 until 2pm! Blame the pig not the cooker!
I've had them do that too.
A four to five hour difference on the same cook.
I had one go 22 hours as well, and that was in the dead of summer.
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 05:36:43 PM
Well, at least this gives you time to stop... reflect... and name an heir to that butt...
Yup, at this rate I'll done way before that butt will!
Quote from: Smokin Soon on December 01, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
I bought a package of 2 butts last week, about 19 pounds i think. Did an overnight smoke, put them in about 4:30pm, smoked for 4 hours, changed out the water bowl and went to bed. Strangely enough the one on the top rack got to 190 at 11am the next day. The one at the bottom that is usually the first did not get to 190 until 2pm! Blame the pig not the cooker!
Believe me, the pig is at fault! It's always his fault. :D
Well, be sure to shred it and eat it, as an example to the other butts... ;)
So when do we get to see the 'baby' pictures??
OK, it hit 190 after 27 hours and the fork said it's done. Here's a couple pics and it's resting right now for a while before I pull it. By the way, the bark is pretty darned tasty! ;D
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/HawkeyeSmokes/Tough%20Pork%20Butt/ToughPorkButt001.jpg)
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/HawkeyeSmokes/Tough%20Pork%20Butt/ToughPorkButt002.jpg)
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/HawkeyeSmokes/Tough%20Pork%20Butt/ToughPorkButt003.jpg)
Thanks for all the kind words every one!
My last "marathon butt" taught me to plan 1 day ahead of any "event". When you think that 16 hours is perfect, here comes that stubborn butt! Cook, smoke, vac seal, and be the hero later!
The good guys always win. That butt looks great. I've been reading this since the first post and I had my money on you. ;D
Looks awesome Hawkeye, nice color.
I had my money on the butt...
It's ok.. I don't really need any new winter shoes....
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
I had my money on the butt...
It's ok.. I don't really need any new winter shoes....
Sorry about the winter shoes Hal. I was thinking I could have sent you this piece of pig for new soles before it got done. But by the time it's all over, the SOP (Son Of Pig) was pretty darned good. Some of the best bark on Q that I've had! ;D
hal, that should teach you a lesson, never mess with a pig ... they will sqeaul on you.
Quote from: squirtthecat on December 01, 2009, 05:46:55 PM
Well, be sure to shred it and eat it, as an example to the other butts... ;)
Squirt, pork butts are running scared here after they seen what happened to this bad boy! :D
No biggie.
I can cross the frozen Illinois tundra barefoot...
Ya win some... Ya lose some... right?
Getting beat by a dadgum pig is what hurts.
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 08:36:55 PM
No biggie.
I can cross the frozen Illinois tundra barefoot...
Ya win some... Ya lose some... right?
Getting beat by a dadgum pig is what hurts.
After fighting that SOP for 27 hours, did you think I might let him win? Hell No!! :D
SOP ! ;D
I knew who was gonna win...
I just figgered you'd have a better chance at consuming the prize if something else was tied to the whipping post ;-)
Wow Hawkeye, that's over 3.5 hours/pound. I'll bet it's gonna be great.
You came, you smoked, you conquered!
That's what that pig was singing .... "Tie me to the whipping post"
Well, that prize went to the whipping post, done got beat, and then done got ate! Took the fight right out of him!
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
That's what that pig was singing .... "Tie me to the whipping post" Sometimes I feel like I'm dyin'
Allman Brothers.
OK, I hijacked but the danged marathon pig has been eaten already. So, I'll go OT and try to fit this in here.
There's an outdoor concert center in the next town (city) over. Maybe 5-6 years ago the Allman Brothers played there. There's a stage, quite a few rows of fold up chairs in front of the stage and then the blanket area in back. I sprung for the chairs. I forget how much, but maybe $15 per chair. We were probably 15-20 feet from the stage. A very great and memorable performance.
I'm done now. Back to marathon butt.
Arnie, they were and still are awesome. Hijacked?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band
Dickie Betts almost sounds like Pork Butts.
Quote from: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
That's what that pig was singing .... "Tie me to the whipping post" Sometimes I feel like I'm dyin'
Allman Brothers.
OK, I hijacked but the danged marathon pig has been eaten already. So, I'll go OT and try to fit this in here.
There's an outdoor concert center in the next town (city) over. Maybe 5-6 years ago the Allman Brothers played there. There's a stage, quite a few rows of fold up chairs in front of the stage and then the blanket area in back. I sprung for the chairs. I forget how much, but maybe $15 per chair. We were probably 15-20 feet from the stage. A very great and memorable performance.
I'm done now. Back to marathon butt.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 09:36:37 PM
Arnie, they were and still are awesome. Hijacked?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band
Dickie Betts almost sounds like Pork Butts.
Hijacked? Heck, that pig don't care no more. He gave up, got ate and I'm happy! ;D As far as I concerned, threads go OT all the time. It's not a big deal at all! The only thing I'm worried about is that 13lb brisket I plan on starting tomorrow. Might be Friday before it gets done. ::)
Well now you know how to hang. You'll have fun with that one too. G/L
CRG - Thanks for the link on the Allman Brothers. Nice background info.
Hawkeye, sounds like you're into 24-28 hours on the brisket. Can I come and visit?
Shoulda known better than using lyrics...
(like they would sneak past CRG...)
See? I got all y'all hijackers in trouble....
I'll behave better in the future. Really. Trust me.
But... didja save the chairs? They'll go big on EBay...
And... think real hard now... Didja see the Virgin Mary in the "seat wrinkles" when ya stood up?
Quote from: ArnieM on December 01, 2009, 10:01:48 PM
CRG - Thanks for the link on the Allman Brothers. Nice background info.
Hawkeye, sounds like you're into 24-28 hours on the brisket. Can I come and visit?
Come on over Arnie. I thinking if you leave before noon tomorrow, you will be here way before that brisket gets done. I have lot's of Seemore's peanuts made up so you will have snacks until it's ready. Oh, and some beef jerky too! ;D
By the way, CRG, Hal and all the rest, come on over too. Let's make it a party!
I'm coming too ..... Save some peanuts!
Where you at, Hawkeye?
I gotta make a mountain run this weekend...
Don't tell CRG, he'll die with envy...
Gonna see Andy Williams.
Awrighten.
Yeehawww goin' to a hoedown.
Quote from: Quarlow on December 01, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Yeehawww goin' to a hoedown.
We had a dance once and the singer said we gonna have a hoedown and all the girls hit the floor.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:11:37 PM
I'm coming too ..... Save some peanuts!
I'll do my best CRG. If I run out before ya get, stop at Sam's and get a couple jumbo cans of Planters and a gallon of Franks Red Hot. We can make some more in no time! ;D
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:14:35 PM
Where you at, Hawkeye?
I gotta make a mountain run this weekend...
Don't tell CRG, he'll die with envy...
Gonna see Andy Williams.
Awrighten.
I'm in WI there Hal. We got some hills that people might call mountains, switch back roads and all!
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 01, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Yeehawww goin' to a hoedown.
We had a dance once and the singer said we gonna have a hoedown and all the girls hit the floor.
:D :D :D
Hit-da-Flo-Liquor-sto...
(oops,, wrong thread)
WI? Whereabouts?
Have been to Rantu?
Little town of Mondovi 20 miles south of Eau Claire! Unless your a Bengals fan, no one has heard of Mondovi!
Illinois, right?
Quote from: classicrockgriller on December 01, 2009, 10:28:41 PM
Illinois, right?
Nope, WISCONSIN, as in Badgers, Packers and CHEESE!!!
Found ya...
That ain't entirely out of the realm of "Can Do"...
Pick up Squirt, drop the women folk on Michigan Avenue in Big Windy...
They wouldn't even miss us for a week..
Damn Whiskey .... I knew that, sorry.
Don't feel bad...
I went to meet some friends in Paris once..
Those goofballs didn't land anywhere near west Tennessee...
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
Don't feel bad...
I went to meet some friends in Paris once..
Those goofballs didn't land anywhere near west Tennessee...
I hate those kinda of people.
Well... Bless their hearts...
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:31:01 PM
Found ya...
That ain't entirely out of the realm of "Can Do"...
Pick up Squirt, drop the women folk on Michigan Avenue in Big Windy...
They wouldn't even miss us for a week..
I work near OHare all the time. Takes me a little over 4 hours to get home if traffics not to bad! That can be a big if but most of the time it's still under 5!
Quote from: hal4uk on December 01, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
Don't feel bad...
I went to meet some friends in Paris once..
Those goofballs didn't land anywhere near west Tennessee...
Didn't they have their GPS on? I even know where west Tenn is at!
We're about 4 hours SOUTH of O'Hare...
(Springfield, IL)
Or.. about 5 hours north of Paris, TN ;-)
Now quit acting like you can't find west Tennessee on a map...
Next thing ya know, you'll be saying you can't find KyNola...
And I know, for a fact, he's dead center between Possum Trot and Monkey's Eyebrow...
Go ahead and ask if crazy Hal is makin' that up ;-) Heck, ask KyNola;-)
I think anybody that can write sideways would never make that up.
Hey HS,
Having read this thread from the biginning and just to hijack this thread again and bring it back to your marathin smoke. I just wanted to say that the best man won.
HR
Dang you Hady, we were having fun. ;D
CRG I just wanted to admire HES for his perseverance. Heck if that had happenned to me (27 hours) I would have given up and ordered chinese. :D
HR
He did a hellofa job, He deserves congrats.
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on December 01, 2009, 11:16:55 PM
CRG I just wanted to admire HES for his perseverance. Heck if that had happenned to me (27 hours) I would have given up and ordered chinese. :D
HR
Hmmm. Smoked Chinese ??? ???
Guess I don't give up easy. After all of this, I just started a 13 lb brisket. Hope the cow was lazier than that pig was! :D
Ya know what they say. When the tough gets.............errr, The tough goe................As the world tu...........When the tough get going, the easier get tough............Awwww just set that baby on 225 deg autopilot and wait until that toughness gets melted out. Brisket Nirvana!
I new you would kick its butt. ;D
I have had some go for more than 24 hr before.
Good luck on your brisket.
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on December 02, 2009, 11:10:40 AM
Guess I don't give up easy. After all of this, I just started a 13 lb brisket. Hope the cow was lazier than that pig was! :D
The brisket sounds like a 24-28 hour cook Hawkeye. I guess you have to plan ahead :)
I hope the cow wasn't doing the marathon with the pig ;D