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Title: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 06, 2009, 05:45:53 AM
I got 2 whole chickens to brine and smoke tomorrow.

Got the brine going now.
BASIC

1 Cup kosher salt
2/3 Cup sugar
2 T crab boil

Boil the water, Take off heat and add salt & sugar. Stir until dissolved. Then add whatever you like.

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nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: KyNola on December 06, 2009, 07:36:39 AM
Mmmm, liquid crab boil.  Love that stuff and when they say concentrated, they're not kidding!

KyNola
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 09:08:36 AM
Man you guys have some neat stuff down there. We don't get stuff like the crab boil. I assume it is from the crab shells and parts all boiled to a broth like concotion kind of like chicken or beef broth. Do you use the whole thing or just add to water?
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: ronbeaux on December 06, 2009, 09:14:53 AM
No crabs were harmed in making the crab boil.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 09:18:24 AM
Ok, so what is it then. Someone suggested I use some for boiling my hotdogs yesterday, but we don't get stuff like that up here, at least not in any store I have ever been in.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: FLBentRider on December 06, 2009, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 09:18:24 AM
but we don't get stuff like that up here, at least not in any store I have ever been in.

In our stores it is usually near the seafood counter.

You could use "Old bay" (Dry) seasoning mix as well, and I think I've seen a (copycat) recipe for it online:

    * 1 Tbsp. ground bay leaves
    * 2-1/2 tsp. celery salt
    * 1-1/2 tsp. dry mustard
    * 1 tsp. ground black pepper
    * 1/2 tsp. ground white pepper
    * 1/2 tsp. ground nutmeg
    * 1/2 tsp. ground cloves
    * 1/4 tsp. ground allspice
    * 1/2 tsp. ground ginger
    * 1 tsp. paprika
    * 1/4 tsp. crushed red pepper flakes
    * 1/4 tsp. ground mace
    * 1/4 tsp. ground cardamom
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 06, 2009, 10:33:54 AM
I got em swimmin in the spa water then tomorrow they get a smokeover  :D  ;D

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nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 06, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
nice idea adding the crab boil to the brine.

sounds very interesting.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 10:56:58 AM
Is there a water to mix ratio you like or just go by taste.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 06, 2009, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 10:56:58 AM
Is there a water to mix ratio you like or just go by taste.

I just went by taste.

I aint one much to follow what the (cures/brine cops) say to do  ;D


nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 06, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
Well i guess the Mrs aint going to get any chicken, I just got informed that she leaves for Atlanta in the morning for a week  :-\


Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
I guess you will be eating chicken sammies all week.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: FLBentRider on December 06, 2009, 11:42:16 AM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 06, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
she leaves for Atlanta in the morning for a week  :-\

I feel a sausage-stick-smoke-a-thon coming on!
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: KyNola on December 06, 2009, 12:06:30 PM
Crab boil is a very intense highly seasoned liquid used to boil, crabs, shrimp, crawfish, HOT DOGS, etc in.  You can also get a dry mix crab boil that you put in with your water but the liquid is so much easier and pakcs a wallop of flavor.  FLBR hits it right when he says you could put Old Bay Seasoning in the water as well.

KyNola
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 06, 2009, 12:26:55 PM
Well we don't get it here so I am going to make some dry. Thanks for the recipe FLBR now I have a reason to use the Cardamom that has been in the cupboard for years, I don't even know where it came from. And thanks again KY, I am going to put some in the next hotdogs I boil. I hate grilled dogs and boiled is so boring.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on December 06, 2009, 03:41:34 PM
Nepas did you cool the brine before placing te chicken in it. I know you said you put it in the spa water. But I just want o make sure

HR
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 07, 2009, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on December 06, 2009, 03:41:34 PM
Nepas did you cool the brine before placing te chicken in it. I know you said you put it in the spa water. But I just want o make sure

HR

Oh yeah. Put the pan of hot brine in the snow to bring it down quick. Temp of brine was 34* when i drowned the cluckers  :D

Here they are in the smoker. Pecan/Alder IT is 225* cuz baby its cold outside  ;D
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nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: oakville smoker on December 07, 2009, 09:27:54 AM
Dumb question of the day ......
Are brines supposed to be boiled before use?
I have always just mixed components together and dumped away
I mayu have goofed in the past and thought I was doing well !
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: FLBentRider on December 07, 2009, 09:29:31 AM
I don't believe the boiling is a safety thing.

It is easier to get the salt (and other items) to dissolve in hot water.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 07, 2009, 11:49:13 AM
FLB is right, it just lets the salt and sugar desolve faster but you need to cool the brine down to the mid 30s before you add the barn birds


Its cold today, smoker having a time getting past 220* so i had to improvise some  ;D

nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 07, 2009, 12:25:16 PM
Oh no Tim taylor.... I mean Nepas has turbo charged his bradley! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: KyNola on December 07, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
uh..........ohhhhhhhhhhhh :D

KyNola
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 07, 2009, 03:00:19 PM
The kids are done  ;D

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nepawonka  :D
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 07, 2009, 03:59:24 PM
ok nepas how did you pump up the volume on the Bradley.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 07, 2009, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 07, 2009, 03:59:24 PM
ok nepas how did you pump up the volume on the Bradley.


Oh now i dont want to give away all my most precious smoking secrets  ;D  :D

Like WONKA

nepawonka
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Savannahsmoker on December 07, 2009, 04:13:30 PM
NePaSmoKer, you are the smokin man that is for sure.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on December 07, 2009, 04:14:05 PM
That is some might fine looking chicken Nepas!!!!
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: OU812 on December 07, 2009, 04:29:10 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 06, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
Well i guess the Mrs aint going to get any chicken, I just got informed that she leaves for Atlanta in the morning for a week  :-\




Woo Hoo party at NePas house.

That yard bird looks gooood, never thought of using crab boil, but have used most every thing thats in the boil in some of my brines.

Also I feel that boiling the brine helps bring out the flavor of the dried spices.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 07, 2009, 04:59:45 PM
We don't want the recipe for a "everlastinggobstopper" just everything else. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 07, 2009, 05:55:02 PM
The secret is that i put pellets on the puck burner.


nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 07, 2009, 06:08:34 PM
That is a cool idea. Do you contain the pellets or just lay them on. The first thing that came to mind was cutting the bottom out of a tuna can and set it on the burner.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: ronbeaux on December 07, 2009, 06:16:11 PM
Sorry I didn't elaborate on the crab boil. They pegged it real good. Old bay is the closest thing I've found to it. Kick it up with some red pepper and it's close.

STAND up wind when you use it for boiling. The longer you let it soak the spicier it gets.

Stupid video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of-AbVf31Vs
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 07, 2009, 06:19:44 PM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 07, 2009, 06:08:34 PM
That is a cool idea. Do you contain the pellets or just lay them on. The first thing that came to mind was cutting the bottom out of a tuna can and set it on the burner.

I have a small foil tray but they smoke better when i just put em on the slide.


nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 07, 2009, 08:09:10 PM
Ron,
If I ever make it down to your neck of the woods. I will buy the beer you just boil up some of them mudbugs. Damn they looked good!!
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 08, 2009, 03:57:53 AM
OH YEAH

Those bugs do look good. Thats the way we eat em at my wifes family place in Baton Rouge.

Do you purge them in fresh water?


nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 08, 2009, 06:26:03 AM
Nepas,
In the video he said he rinsed them twice in the cooler. I guess that would be purging them. Ron said that the water was running clear after the second rinse so he didn't need to do it a third time.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: squirtthecat on December 08, 2009, 06:40:09 AM

Neat video, Ron!

There is a place near Springfield that has fresh crawfish flown in a couple times a week during the summer.  They sell them raw, or boiled up and ready to eat by the pound.   Might have to look into that..
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 08, 2009, 06:54:54 AM
Quote from: squirtthecat on December 08, 2009, 06:40:09 AM

Neat video, Ron!

There is a place near Springfield that has fresh crawfish flown in a couple times a week during the summer.  They sell them raw, or boiled up and ready to eat by the pound.   Might have to look into that..


My wife's uncle told us to never buy bugs that are already dead, Fresh movers are better.


nepas
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: squirtthecat on December 08, 2009, 06:56:27 AM

Good to know!   These things must be flash frozen, then shipped up.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 08, 2009, 06:59:25 AM
Nepas,
I know your picture is of you out hunting but it looks like a shriveled up thumb when you use it as an avatar! Just thought I thought would through that out there.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 08, 2009, 07:14:29 AM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on December 08, 2009, 06:59:25 AM
Nepas,
I know your picture is of you out hunting but it looks like a shriveled up thumb when you use it as an avatar! Just thought I thought would through that out there.

Thanks buddy  :D

Hows that  now  ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: dbondy on December 08, 2009, 08:18:58 AM
Great looking yard birds NePas, bet they tasted even better. Also cool idea of using the pellets.
ronbeaux, great vidieo. Crawfish is something on the must try list.
Quarlow have you checked sobies or foodland becuase we have old bay seasoning here in our stores. It usualy located on the bottom shelf of the spice and seasoning area.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 08, 2009, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: dbondy on December 08, 2009, 08:18:58 AM
Quarlow have you checked sobies or foodland becuase we have old bay seasoning here in our stores. It usualy located on the bottom shelf of the spice and seasoning area.
I've never even heard of those stores! Where might I find them. I'll google it.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: ArnieM on December 08, 2009, 08:42:47 AM
NePaS - Good looking chickens.  Interesting idea with the pellets.  I don't have a pellet pooper and so don't have any around.  When I first got my OBS, the bisquettes were a few days behind.  So, I used some hickory chunks on the hot plate to season the OBS.  Got a lot of smoke.

I've never done crawfish.  We have the larger variety up here in the northeast.  :D
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 08, 2009, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 08, 2009, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: dbondy on December 08, 2009, 08:18:58 AM
Quarlow have you checked sobies or foodland becuase we have old bay seasoning here in our stores. It usualy located on the bottom shelf of the spice and seasoning area.
I've never even heard of those stores! Where might I find them. I'll google it.
As I suspected there is none of these SOBEY's stores within 1000 miles of me and the closest Foodland is in Ontario. Oh well. Thanks though.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: ArnieM on December 08, 2009, 09:11:24 AM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 08, 2009, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Quarlow on December 08, 2009, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: dbondy on December 08, 2009, 08:18:58 AM
Quarlow have you checked sobies or foodland becuase we have old bay seasoning here in our stores. It usualy located on the bottom shelf of the spice and seasoning area.
I've never even heard of those stores! Where might I find them. I'll google it.
As I suspected there is none of these SOBEY's stores within 1000 miles of me and the closest Foodland is in Ontario. Oh well. Thanks though.

Q, I can just send you some if you like.
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: KyNola on December 08, 2009, 09:13:50 AM
Ron,
Those crawfish look great!  You're making NePaS and me awfully hungry about now.  Nothing better than a backyard crawfish boil.

Hey Rick, start the Jeep and head this way.  We need to start heading South.  Only 9 hours from my house.

KyNola
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Quarlow on December 08, 2009, 09:22:41 AM
Thanks Arnie I'll keep that in mind. But if I open another bottle of sauce around here, SHE who is affectionately known as "WOMBAT" will change the locks on me. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Whole Chicken
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 08, 2009, 12:30:20 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 08, 2009, 07:14:29 AM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on December 08, 2009, 06:59:25 AM
Nepas,
I know your picture is of you out hunting but it looks like a shriveled up thumb when you use it as an avatar! Just thought I thought would through that out there.

Thanks buddy  :D

Hows that  now  ;D
Much better!!!