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Title: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on July 23, 2010, 10:15:28 PM
Thanks for all the advice, first 15lb batch of Nootka Sound Spring is done and sampled....very tasty, I think my girls loved it more than the beef jerky!

Followed Kummok's recipe (teriyaki) and with 1/2 the cayenne, don't taste any heat so will do full amount next time. Didn't add ice, sat in fridge 28hrs, no excess salty flavour at all (another post debated percent solutions adding ice etc, I didn't use ice which would make my brine even saltier and it brined for 28hrs to boot).

Rinsed and racked wet for pellicle formation 24hrs. Smoked total of 10hrs for thickest pieces, will definitely make them thinner next time around to cut smoke time. Used maple for 2 hours of smoke. Basically it was: 120^ 2 1/2 hrs, 140^ 4 hrs, 170^ 3 1/2 hrs. I wanted to either sprinkle with brown sugar or baste with maple syrup, couldn't decide, so did both ways! Did this at the 3hr mark. Not all the brown sugar melted, was sure it would once put to 170^ but it didn't, any suggestions/reasons for this???

Will try posting pics...
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon003.jpg)

Racked for pellicle formation, whipped up this little rack system out of scrap,worked really well.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon010.jpg)

Pellicle formed, ready to smoke, 8 racks doubled up for my 4 racker.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon021.jpg)

Finished, minus several "tasters" to make sure it wasn't poisonous ;)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon024.jpg)

This is the brown sugar glaze showed incomplete liquification. Left the sugar "crust" on to vacuum pack.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon027.jpg)


Maple syrup glaze
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon026.jpg)

The end step (2nd to end step, end step really is the eating part)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd268/chiroken/Bradley/Candied%20Salmon/CandiedSalmon029.jpg)

Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: Kummok on July 24, 2010, 12:12:26 AM
If this is your "first time", you're off to a GREAT start, Chiroken...that's some very fine looking salmon!!

Brown sugar melts at around 160°C / 320°F......way too hot for the fish. If you really want a top glaze, try lightly caramelizing the brown sugar in a pan and brushing it on after pellicle forming .....I also did a batch (by mistake....my wife was helping me by making the brine and misread the brown sugar bag.  :-\ ) that turned out very glazed by doubling the brown sugar in the brine and not rinsing (I never rinse the salmon after brining....my own personal tastes).
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: Tenpoint5 on July 24, 2010, 06:58:35 AM
BRAVO!!! Well Done Indeed. Looks like some mighty fine salmon for a 1st shot out of the gate.
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on July 24, 2010, 09:07:53 AM
Good to know about the T required for the brown sugar, explains why some didn't melt. On some pieces it did fully melt. I'm guessing the thicker areas of brown sugar were what didn't fully melt. Certainly didn't affect the taste! I just left it on and vacuum packed it anyways. Pretty sure guests won't complain, especially once they taste it.

Brushing on the maple syrup was too easy, the plan was to brush it on, leave it long enough to harden, then flip the fish over during a rack change and do the other side. Ended up away for a bit and never got the chance. Don't know if flipping is required, I probably could have just rebasted over the 1st layer.

Sure would like to know what the local grocery store candied salmon has on the outside (not made locally). It comes in chunks fully coated with a fairly dark, slightly sticky coating on it.
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: KyNola on July 24, 2010, 12:59:21 PM
WOW!  That salmon looks great.  Congrats on a great smoke.
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: StickyDan on July 24, 2010, 02:47:32 PM
Oh good, you made enough for the whole class.  Guess you're on your way to the post office to mail out some samples to all your new forum friends. ;)
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: monty on July 24, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
nice stuff chiroken!

good job on that little rack system, too. need to rig me up one of those jobbies...
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: Smokin Soon on July 24, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
I wish I could slam a rack like together, I'm not too gifted in that department. That is some very beautiful salmon!
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on July 24, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
The drying rack worked great and came together pretty quick. A dab of wood glue and a brad nailer makes the job easy. What I did before that wonderful little compressor nail gun I don't know :-). If anyone is going to make one remember to leave enough space between the supports to allow you to double up your racks. At least consider that regular racks hang down, your inverted racks project up, need enough space so they don't collide.

Thanks all for the thumbs up, I now have a great reason to be bringing home more fish rather than releasing. I think this smoked salmon will become addictive. Looking forward to August to try some whole pink fillets, taking a whole vacuum packed side over to friends will get me front row couch seats for the game! I hope there'll be some around, I believe it's an off year this year for pinks around here.

Can't remember who was asking for some to be sent out...pick up only ;)
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: TestRocket on July 25, 2010, 08:23:29 AM
I've got a BIL in Alaska and he fishes a lot, now all I need to do is get him hooked on a Brakley!
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: stillsmoking on July 25, 2010, 11:13:59 AM
Very pretty Chiroken!  Amazed it made it to the freezer.
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: watchdog56 on July 25, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
Very nice job.
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: tsquared on July 26, 2010, 09:40:43 PM
Looks good Chiroken! I heard Nootka was still a little slow, but it can't be that slow, judging by your pics! I did a batch last week from a couple of springs I got on Monday down here in Sooke--it sure does evaporate fast!
T2
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on July 26, 2010, 10:01:55 PM
We were there the weekend before the one just passed and it was hard work fishing. Most did not do well at all...0's and 1's for most boats per day. We hit our spots, watched carefully when we did see a boat on a fish and put together the right combination. The 3 of us in 3 days brought home our limit (4 each). Even released a couple of fish much to the dismay of neighbouring boats! The fish weren't all big, from 9-24lbs. When we had our 11th fish we decided to release unless it was over 20. Then that night we ate one so the last morning we had to hook 2 fish, both nice at around 15 & 18 lbs. I would think it has picked up by now up there, not sure if I'll get back up or not, hopefully :) though.

Just got home after buying a used kicker so now I have a trolling motor for my 18' bowrider ski boat/trying to convert into a fishing boat. The conversion is going so-so. Learning the challenges of trying to have a multipurpose BOAT (Bring Out Another Thousand). Now I need a custom kicker mount and 2 custom downrigger mounts and I can fish the Comox Bay locally.
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: tsquared on July 28, 2010, 06:40:46 AM
Good for you Chiroken! I had an invitation to go up to Nootka this year but it doesn't look as though I'll get there. Sooke is starting to pick up as is Port Renfrew, where we plan to go for a few days in early August. I hope you get your boat set up the way you want--we just brought an Arima up from Georgia this spring and we have just about got it set up the way we want. The only thing I think we need to add is a radar--this year has been the foggiest July on Juan de Fuca I can remember--and we're not even into Fogust yet!
Good luck fishing!
T2
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on July 28, 2010, 07:43:12 AM
Radar will be nice in that fog. We wanted to get 10 miles offshore for halibut but the 2 calm mornings were socked in with fog. We had everything else on board but radar, and in a 16' double eagle we were on the nervous side going out. Would have with a buddy boat but not solo.

May have to get out fishing sooner rather than later with the rate we're going through this smoked salmon...wonder why I bothered vacuum packing!! ;D
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: azamuner73 on July 28, 2010, 08:16:10 AM
Wow that looks great!
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: jatoba on August 11, 2010, 08:33:01 PM
where can I find Kummok's reeipe??
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on August 11, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
Not sure exactly where I found it but I copied it into a word document for reference. Here is what I had found:

Kummok's Salmon

Step 1: PREPARE FISH
Filet salmon. Leave skin on. REMOVE ALL BONES (Very important for excellence!)

Step 2: UNIFORM STRIPS
Cut meat into uniform strips, 3/8 to 1/2" wide and 3-6" long, OR as long as your smoker racks can handle......the key here is to get uniform thickness cuts for uniform brining and smoking. The length is important only as far as your own packaging preferences. The strips will have a tendency to fall or sag through the larger grid racks.........I've switched to a small grid (1/2") non-stick coated rack from WWW.ChezBubba.com and now have no problem with meat falling through

Step 3: BRINING
Soak in your own brine recipe for 12 hours at refrigerator temps (I use an Igloo type ice chest with about a gallon of ice thrown in). For more complete brining throughout, place a stainless steel or wooden grate over the top of the meat to hold it under the brine. Stir fish a few times during the brining process. The following brine recipe is included to get you started, but you are encouraged to experiment with your own salt/sugar, maple, honey, peppers, seasonings to develop your own. (My apologies to our metricated friends)
1 gallon cold water
1 quart teriyaki OR soy sauce
1 cup pickling salt
2 Lbs brown sugar
2 Tbsp garlic powder
3 Tbsp cayenne pepper
Step 4: GLAZING
Place fish in a single layer on drying racks and ensure that the pieces DON'T touch each other. Dry in a cool, shady place until a hard pellicle forms. Fish will have a tough, shiny coat and will be slightly tacky to the touch. (Winter time tip!  Dry 12-36 hours in a cold place such as an unheated garage, but DON'T allow to freeze) In the summer temps, it can typically take 3-4 hours for the fish to "glaze". A fan can help speed the drying process. DON'T let the fish spoil from warm temps! Turn the fish over 2-3 times during the Glazing process to ensure more complete glazing. It is during the glazing process that you can sprinkle on certain spices (e.g. cayenne pepper) and/or visual enhancers (e.g. parsley flakes).

Step 5: SMOKING
Smoke using the following Bradley Smoking guideline:
100°-120°F for 1-2 hours, then increase to
140° for 2-4 hours, then increase to
175° for 1-2 hours to finish

Use the longer times given for thicker/higher oil content fish. As a general rule, the higher temp you use or the longer you hot smoke, the more the meat cooks the oils out, HOWEVER, the meat becomes dryer/tougher in the process. I've "accidently" left meat (silver salmon) at the 140-150°F range for up to 8 hours and it still turned out great. I personally believe that you'd have to try REAL hard to make a batch of smoke salmon unpalatable by over smoking/cooking. If you get white "boogers" on the meat, you're cooking too high/too fast.

EAT & ENJOY!![ ]

Kummok @ Homer, AK USA
Title: Re: 1st candied salmon done!
Post by: chiroken on August 11, 2010, 10:27:36 PM
OK, I'm a fool...the recipe is the first sticky of this forum. It's late and I gotta get some sleep...dreaming of candied salmon bits...