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Smoking Techniques => Hot Smoking and Barbecuing => Topic started by: freakaccident on June 06, 2011, 05:35:45 PM

Title: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 06, 2011, 05:35:45 PM
Got my OBS today and decided to smoke some ABTs.  I've never had them before so I have no reference point but IMHO they turned out too smoky and a little on the bland side.

I used the Jim Beam pucks at 225* for two hours.  I used the standard ABT recipe.  Jalapeno's halved and cleaned out, cream cheese, a lil sweet rub on the cream cheese, lil smokie in each one, and then wrapped in bacon. 

Did I over smoke them?  Wrong wood?  Not enough seasoning?  Cooked too long?

Thanks

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Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: SiFumar on June 06, 2011, 06:07:46 PM
Personally they look great to me!  I do mix seasonings in with the cream cheese and then taste it before stuffing.  Others might have better suggestions.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 06, 2011, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: SiFumar on June 06, 2011, 06:07:46 PM
Personally they look great to me!  I do mix seasonings in with the cream cheese and then taste it before stuffing.  Others might have better suggestions.

They were just blah.  Nothing there but smoke.

I read a post about mixing some of the seeds and veins in with the cream cheese.  I may try that tomorrow to improve the flavor and maybe switch to a maple type bacon.  A little more of the sweet rub mixed in with the cream cheese too.  I didn't taste the mixture before I spooned it in.

I just cleaned out the OBS and there was a lot of bacon drippings in the pan but not much cheese so the cheese didn't melt out much.  There was some burnt on the catching tray thing but not much.  I'm still thinking that maybe I don't like the Jim Beam wood pucks.  It's all I have for now so I will just work with it.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 06, 2011, 06:19:01 PM
OH and I forgot to mention that they literally shrunk in half during cooking.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: SiFumar on June 06, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
I smoke at the most, 40 min and finish on grill.  Also I add shredded sharp cheddar/ jalapeno jack to mixture.  I'm thinking they were a bit overcooked.  We like a bit of cripness left.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 06, 2011, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: SiFumar on June 06, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
I smoke at the most, 40 min and finish on grill.  Also I add shredded sharp cheddar/ jalapeno jack to mixture.  I'm thinking they were a bit overcooked.  We like a bit of cripness left.

Awesome!  I'll do that tomorrow.  I am going to try baby back ribs tomorrow and the ABTs will be a nice snack along with a couple of beers.  Ill post pics and updates tomorrow night.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: FLBentRider on June 06, 2011, 07:18:00 PM
We mix cooked ground sausage and diced habenero peppers in the cream cheese.

That kicks it up a notch.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: Slamdunk on June 06, 2011, 08:16:37 PM
I only let the smoke roll for an hour. 2 hours perhaps may be a bit too long,
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 06, 2011, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: FLBentRider on June 06, 2011, 07:18:00 PM
We mix cooked ground sausage and diced habenero peppers in the cream cheese.

That kicks it up a notch.

I have considered chorizo instead of the lil smokies all together.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: pensrock on June 07, 2011, 01:59:27 AM
Chopped brisket or pulled pork is great in ABT's. I would cut the smoke down to around 40 minutes.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: Habanero Smoker on June 07, 2011, 02:07:43 AM
Often it is hard to tell from a picture. The picture could be over exposed and every monitor will display colors differently, and it also depends on the brightness and contrast you have it set to.

Chorizo will be a good ingredient to add. I make mine similar to what SiFumar does, and will add lime juice and honey. If you have any left over pulled pork, chop that up fine and mix it in with the cream cheese. I do not wrap the bacon around, but will fry then crumble it and mix that in with the cream cheese. Then I will add different toppings such as crushed pineapple, chopped nuts, jalapeno relish etc. The toppings can go on before or after the ABT's are done. I also parboil the peppers first, keep in mind I don't wrap them in bacon so I don't need to keep them in the smoker too long.

If you have family members or guest that don't like the heat, the mini-sweet peppers that are now hitting the markets are a good substitute. Just don't parboil first or cook them as long as the jalapeno. If you want to wrap bacon around these peppers, then I recommend you first partially cook the bacon in the microwave.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: OU812 on June 07, 2011, 10:02:41 AM
I gotta ask,,,, what did you use to measure the cabnet temp of the smoker?

Them ABTs look burnt to me, no offence.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: OU812 on June 07, 2011, 10:02:41 AM
I gotta ask,,,, what did you use to measure the cabnet temp of the smoker?

Them ABTs look burnt to me, no offence.

Maverick Dual probe thermometer.  I only used the cabinet temp probe on the maverick for the ABTs
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 09:57:05 PM
Quote from: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: OU812 on June 07, 2011, 10:02:41 AM
I gotta ask,,,, what did you use to measure the cabnet temp of the smoker?

Them ABTs look burnt to me, no offence.

Maverick Dual probe thermometer.  I only used the cabinet temp probe on the maverick for the ABTs

I just did a test with the Maverick on my home oven and it wasn't pretty but it's due to the tstat in my oven.

I set the oven to 200*.  According to the Maverick:

When the oven cycles on it rises to 234*.
The oven doesn't cycle back on until it dips to 192*.

Apparently my oven isn't very accurate.  I am going to pull the Maverick and test to air temp near my SkyScan Atomic clock/thermo.  Will update a bit later.
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 10:07:03 PM
Quote from: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 09:57:05 PM
Quote from: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: OU812 on June 07, 2011, 10:02:41 AM
I gotta ask,,,, what did you use to measure the cabnet temp of the smoker?

Them ABTs look burnt to me, no offence.

Maverick Dual probe thermometer.  I only used the cabinet temp probe on the maverick for the ABTs

I just did a test with the Maverick on my home oven and it wasn't pretty but it's due to the tstat in my oven.

I set the oven to 200*.  According to the Maverick:

When the oven cycles on it rises to 234*.
The oven doesn't cycle back on until it dips to 192*.

Apparently my oven isn't very accurate.  I am going to pull the Maverick and test to air temp near my SkyScan Atomic clock/thermo.  Will update a bit later.

Ok there ya go.  Mav is right on target.

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Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
I'm still thinking that I cooked them too long.  I am going to do a batch later today to see if they come out better.  I am going to take an earlier poster's advice and do 40 min smoke.  In addition I am going to be more careful with tasting the cream cheese mixture first.  I am going to shoot for no more than 1.5 hours total.  If the bacon isn't done I will finish on a hot grill.  Crossing my fingers.  I will post pics before and after tomorrow. 
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 10:31:18 PM
Oh and for 0s and giggles.  I put the meat probe between a cold can of beer and a coozee and my temps were:

Beer probe = 45*
Air temp = 77*

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Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: freakaccident on June 08, 2011, 11:23:40 PM
I ordered the Auber Bradley Dual probe controller!  I can't wait to make some brisket!
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: Habanero Smoker on June 09, 2011, 01:32:34 AM
Here is a good article on testing a thermometer:
Testing Thermometer (http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/thermotest.html)
     also
Determining Boiling Point (http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/boilingpoint.html)
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: jimmyb on June 09, 2011, 01:56:46 PM
This is a great way to test these probes but I thought I read that you shouldn't get the probes wet?
Title: Re: ABTs...what went wrong?
Post by: OU812 on June 09, 2011, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: jimmyb on June 09, 2011, 01:56:46 PM
This is a great way to test these probes but I thought I read that you shouldn't get the probes wet?

You only put a couple inches of the tip of the probe in the water.

Its where the metal part of the probe that meets the cable part that you dont wanta get wet.