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Title: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: fivecoopers on July 25, 2011, 12:09:48 PM
I got a 4 rack digital smoker for Chirstmas and and I can't get more than 3 uses out of it before the heating element fails.  My 3rd element just failed.  So I'm thinking maybe there is something else wrong.  Is anyone else having this problem?  Does anyone have anysuggestions on how to get more than 3-4 uses out of an element?

Thanks
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: Habanero Smoker on July 25, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
When did you install the third element? There is a possibility that was still from the bad batch.

If you have a multimeter, you can remove the element and test it. A good element should read 27-32 ohms. If you get a good reading then the you could have another problem.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: WideGlideMike00 on July 25, 2011, 01:13:43 PM
I'm in the same boat. 2 have failed already, very close in usage time. (Apx. 15-20 hrs. total time.)
I now have 10 hours on my 3rd element. Next brisket smoke will put it in the 20 hr range. <fingers crossed that this element hangs in there>
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: acaptvid on August 07, 2011, 05:20:09 AM
:(  Yes I also am in the same boat! On second element and the heater just quit on me after ten hours on pork Shoulder set at 220 degrees. Took it out and sure enough an open circuit across the terminals. Thinking about buying a few extra ones even though the unit is two months old!!  The people at Bradley are very nice but this is a problem that really stinks!!
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: mgsweeney99 on August 21, 2011, 06:39:43 AM
This is only my first element with 15 hours on it so I hope Bradley has this fixed!!
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: ffrcoupe on August 22, 2011, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: mgsweeney99 on August 21, 2011, 06:39:43 AM
This is only my first element with 15 hours on it so I hope Bradley has this fixed!!

Buy a spare. :)
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: TexanSmoker on August 24, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
You HAVE to be kidding me?  During my 4th smoke I noticed the temp dropped drastically.  The unit now will not heat.  Are you guys seriously telling me this things burns through elements every 20 hours or so?  I'm a thorough shopper and researched the crap out of the bradley and didn't hear anything about this problem.  Booo.

So, is this some defect that is fixed in different rev products?
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: Habanero Smoker on August 25, 2011, 01:22:43 AM
Quote from: TexanSmoker on August 24, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
You HAVE to be kidding me?  During my 4th smoke I noticed the temp dropped drastically.  The unit now will not heat.  Are you guys seriously telling me this things burns through elements every 20 hours or so?  I'm a thorough shopper and researched the crap out of the bradley and didn't hear anything about this problem.  Booo.

So, is this some defect that is fixed in different rev products?

Hi TexanSmoker;
Sorry to welcome you to the forum in this manner.

The company that supplied the elements for the Bradley had a design flaw and many smokers were manufactured with these flawed elements. Bradley switch suppliers and that problem was resolved. So call Bradley and they will send you a new element.

I'm surprised that there are still a few out there. But; there is more than one problem that can cause the element not to work. Without knowing what model you have I can't get specific, but the following link will help you troubleshoot.
Bradley FAQ's (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?481-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=748#post748)
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: porterdriver on August 28, 2011, 11:20:46 AM
I'm in possession of a couple of 'spare' elements that I bought YardandPool.com to counteract the fuseable link that passes for a heating element.  I just had my third element fail in a year.  Is there anyway to look at elements and see if they are part of the old 'bad' batch?  I hate to spend a couple of hours changing out an element just to have it fail in the next 20-30 hours.  I also hate the idea of spending $25 each to replace elements.

I know that it is element failure not any other electrical issue.  My unit is BDS 6-rack, with dual element and fan mods.  I use an Auber PID for smoker control.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: beefmann on August 28, 2011, 01:25:16 PM
thoes elements are pricy at $ 25 a pop. and i run a 900 watt for 5  years and never had an issue, then again i do have a spare
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: TexanSmoker on August 30, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
So I followed the trouble-shooting FAQ and ended up popping the element out and sure enough it registers as open on my multimeter.  Put a call in to Bradley support and three days later I have a new element (which Ohms in at 29.8).

In the interest of trying to find out the root of whether I indeed had a "bad batch" element and the new one is not, here are the numbers imprinted on the element:

BAD: DF 120V 500W 1010 GYO Series
NEW: E217286 DF 120V 500W GYO 1104

So, indeed they seem different, and the new one also has some sort of logo imprinted before the numbers, but I can't make it out.  Its design reminds me of a cattle branding iron.  Perhaps if more people post the numbers on their bad ones and good ones we can develop a pattern to assure smoking success!
Title: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: mikecorn.1 on August 30, 2011, 06:58:30 PM
Imma gonna look at mine to see what mine has on it.  I've had mine 2 years and never any problems. I ordered it thru walmart   


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Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: Rubberdown on September 12, 2011, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: TexanSmoker on August 30, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
So I followed the trouble-shooting FAQ and ended up popping the element out and sure enough it registers as open on my multimeter.  Put a call in to Bradley support and three days later I have a new element (which Ohms in at 29.8).

In the interest of trying to find out the root of whether I indeed had a "bad batch" element and the new one is not, here are the numbers imprinted on the element:

BAD: DF 120V 500W 1010 GYO Series
NEW: E217286 DF 120V 500W GYO 1104

So, indeed they seem different, and the new one also has some sort of logo imprinted before the numbers, but I can't make it out.  Its design reminds me of a cattle branding iron.  Perhaps if more people post the numbers on their bad ones and good ones we can develop a pattern to assure smoking success!

Well this stinks, I literally just opened up and assembled my new unit and it has your "bad" heating element part # on it, so now what, do I risk putting a ton of food in it and have it fail or will Bradley send me an updated element even though this element is un-used?
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: classicrockgriller on September 12, 2011, 06:34:51 PM
First of all Welcome to the forum.

I would do just what you are thinking.

Call and tell them what you have posted.

No one wants you to go down in the middle of a smoke.

In the mean time you can use what you have to season the smoker

and do a small smoke/cook to get acquainted with the smoker.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: Rubberdown on September 12, 2011, 06:52:23 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on September 12, 2011, 06:34:51 PM
First of all Welcome to the forum.

I would do just what you are thinking.

Call and tell them what you have posted.

No one wants you to go down in the middle of a smoke.

In the mean time you can use what you have to season the smoker

and do a small smoke/cook to get acquainted with the smoker.

Thanks for the welcome!

Email has already been sent to Bradley with a link to this thread, hope to get a new style element with no problems. And great idea using it to season the smoker, I will likely do that tomorrow and then read another 100 recipes and then start shopping for some fish to smoke.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: Rubberdown on September 15, 2011, 09:21:33 AM
Well....this is dissheartening, there is no way for me to get a new element unless I have a problem with the one I have. Although I understand the point of view of the manufacturer, it sure does suck that to be "safe" I have to go out and purchase spare parts for a brand new product just to be sure I dont go down and waste a ton of food part way through a smoke. Now, I know Canadian Tire sells the smoker, but I have NO clue if they offer parts for them, I will look but I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: devo on September 15, 2011, 09:51:39 AM
I bought a spare from bradley for 13 bucks and it was shipped to me in three days. Cheep insurance if you ask me.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: Rubberdown on September 15, 2011, 10:59:44 AM
Thats the other thing, I asked if they could sell me one and if so I'd like to order, my response was that my local Bradley supplier will have them for me, so if Crappy tire is my only local supplier, theres a good chance they dont sell parts for them, thats just the way Canadian tire is, so why couldnt she give me a part # and price for one to be purchased directly from Bradley? I'll check at CT and see but if not, I'll do some digging on line and I'm sure I'll be able to find one locally somwhere some how ;)
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: KyNola on September 15, 2011, 11:05:31 AM
Contact Bryan at www.yardandpool.com  He has Bradley heating elements he can sell you and will make arrangements to ship to you in Canada.  Bryan is a member of the forum and a trusted vendor.

Sorry for all your trouble when all you are trying to do is avert a possible problem.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: mtgrease on October 02, 2011, 04:37:13 PM
My element went out during the bradleys 4th use.  I called bradley and they are sending me a new one no charge.  Since new I have been having problems getting it up to temps, hopefully this is the fix.  I live in Montana and am not sure the 500w element is going to cut it in the winter.  We will see.  If not I will upgrade to a 900w or two 500w elements.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: HotNsmoky on February 23, 2012, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: TexanSmoker on August 30, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
So I followed the trouble-shooting FAQ and ended up popping the element out and sure enough it registers as open on my multimeter.  Put a call in to Bradley support and three days later I have a new element (which Ohms in at 29.8).

In the interest of trying to find out the root of whether I indeed had a "bad batch" element and the new one is not, here are the numbers imprinted on the element:

BAD: DF 120V 500W 1010 GYO Series
NEW: E217286 DF 120V 500W GYO 1104

So, indeed they seem different, and the new one also has some sort of logo imprinted before the numbers, but I can't make it out.  Its design reminds me of a cattle branding iron.  Perhaps if more people post the numbers on their bad ones and good ones we can develop a pattern to assure smoking success!

My element failed on 2/20/2012 after about 10 uses, with an average time of 5-6 hours per use.   Its the digital 4 rack purchased in Sept. of 2010, so over a year old.  The failed element number is "DF 120V 500W 2010 04 GYO Series", so it looks like the older one.  I have a new one on the way and will let you know what number shows up.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: lumpyk on February 27, 2012, 09:03:59 AM
My wife went out this morning to start our Bradley to make ribs for this evening dinner.  She called me at work saying it is on correctly and only at 56 degrees after an hour and a half.  I told well its pretty cold out give it time, I told her.  An hour later temperature starts to fall, must be the third or fourth element I have been through!  I have had the original one, two extra I had bought from yard and pool, and the replacement Bradley sent me. I will check for sure when I get home if this one went up.  I have had it with these smokers!  Yes I loved mine when it works but don't want to change elements everytime I smoke, as this last one only lasted one use.  Yes Bradley customer service has been good but one can only take so much.  So what everytime you buy smoking pucks need to buy an element too?  I am seriously considering selling my Bradley and PID and getting a treager.  >:(
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: TedEbear on February 27, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
Have you done an ohm reading on the bad elements after you replaced them?  If your replacements were during the height of the bad batch that were circulating around last year then you just kept getting bad ones to replace bad ones from the same batch.

A bad element will read "infinity" with a multimeter when not connected on both ends to the Bradley. One of mine went out last year soon after I added a second element.  I bought another one and it has been OK since then.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: lumpyk on February 27, 2012, 02:08:46 PM
I have tested everyone.  I have gotten them from different places.  As well as when ordered they were on back order when I needed new ones due to the fact that's when they were going through the bad batch.  Gonna try ordering two more from yard and pool.  If they go out I will be done with it.
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: viper125 on February 27, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
If your that fed up may be a good time to do the 900 watt mod. So far haven't seen a problem. And you don't need ti even fool with those. Personally im running two 500 with no problem. I think some of the bad ones still out there.

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Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: lumpyk on February 28, 2012, 03:18:25 AM
Funny you say that Viper, I was looking at that last night.  Figured my warranty is up just debating on which to do the 900 watt or go to the duel 500 watt.  found the mod for the duel 500 watt, but not for the 900 watt.  Not really sure which to go with yet.  As I am thinking if the 500 watts are burning up why do i want to put two of them in, just my thoughts on that.  Also looking at adding the blower as well. 
Title: Re: Heating Elements keep failing after 3rd usage
Post by: viper125 on February 28, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
Well I run the 2 500 watts, but then I'm one of the lucky ones. I've never had one blow. But I can understand too,if I had that many I probably would be Leary also. I think If I had I'd call Bradley's direct and explain,I've had this many go out. Could you send me two and make sure their from the new batch because I've about had it. They may even cut the cost you never know. I would also if I did the dual,go with the switch, I did. If one goes out you can shut it off and go with the other. Also you need a PID to run a hotter setup. So if your PID should quit working (mine did once) then you can just shut off the extra one and keep smoking. Just my suggestion. My biggest reason for going this way is I always have one element working. I didn't know about just using one 900..
Now this is just my opinion. I'm sure others will speak up also. That's why this place is so great.