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Smoking Techniques => Sausage Making => Topic started by: Johnny on December 24, 2016, 03:20:22 AM

Title: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on December 24, 2016, 03:20:22 AM
Hey,
Has anyone had any experience using these with bradley smoker? Inkbird 100 ~240VAC ITC-308 Digital Temperature Controller Outlet Thermostat, 2-stage, 1000W, w/ Sensor
   
Inkbird 100 ~240VAC ITC-308 Digital Temperature Controller Outlet Thermostat, 2-stage, 1000W, w/ Sensor
by Inkbird
I purchased one from Amazon but haven't tried it yet, any feedback would be great!

Thanks,
Johnny.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: TedEbear on December 24, 2016, 05:55:04 PM
I haven't heard of that one but there's a discussion of a similar product in another thread.

Do I really need a PID or is bang-bang enough? (http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=37366.0)
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on December 25, 2016, 03:14:37 PM
Thanks for the reply :) when i was looking for a temp controller online there seemed to be alot of options so I went with was seemed to be simple. It's basically a plug and play with a temp probe. I haven't used it yet but looks like i simply plug the heating element cord from in back of the bradley to the controller and set the temp. Im assuming i hang the temp probe down the vent from the top of the smoker. Time will tell if this rig works!
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: TedEbear on December 26, 2016, 06:24:26 PM
Keeps us posted on how well it goes.  I'm interested in hearing the results of the temp variance.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on December 27, 2016, 06:50:00 AM
Absolutely!  I will indeed keep you posted, hopefully it works well because its an affordable item. Think i paid around 50$ shipping and all.  I tried to post a pic of the temp controller on here but for some reason I cant find anywhere to upload a pic.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on January 15, 2017, 06:06:11 AM
Tried out the temp controller yesterday and it seemed pretty simple at first, I put the probe down the vent hole and hung it about half way down the smoker, set the temp to 130 degrees and started my process.. about an hour into it my smoker power shut off?? Not sure why but I disconnected the temp controller and finished without it. Im thinking it had something to do with the freezing temps outside.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 15, 2017, 01:13:58 PM
I couldn't locate the model you have. Are you sure it's not the Inkbird 1000?

The specs state that the ambient operating temps are 0°C~60°C. So if you were below freezing that could be the cause.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on January 15, 2017, 01:53:06 PM
Habs it's the 308 model
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on January 15, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
1000 w..
think ill move the smoker into our heated shop and vent it, should solve my issue.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 16, 2017, 01:45:11 AM
According to the specs of the 308 the ambient temperature shouldn't have been a problem. The specs. show it can operate in temperatures from -30 ~ 75°C  / -22~ 167°F.

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?action=post;topic=37443.0;last_msg=423401

If you are using Fahrenheit, the temperature of 130°F for the Bradley with the generator on is fairly low. Once the controller reaches that temperature, it will shut off the heating element until it falls below 130°F. If you have the generator plugged directly into the controller, it will shut the whole unit off. You should only plug the cabinet into the controller bypassing the generator.

What was the cabinet temperature when you decided to unhook it?
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on January 16, 2017, 02:32:26 AM
Habs I did have the generator plugged directly in the unit, I had my wireless temp probe in the house with me and noticed it was down to 80 degrees F. When i went to investigate, noticed then it was powered off.
Any ideas how to bypass the generator? On the 4 rack its like a female end (much like a desktop cord)
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 16, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
That is the type of cord you will need, you desktop monitor and many printers and scanners use that same cord. The name of the cord is  NEMA5-15P to IEC320 C13.  If you have had desktop computers in the past, you may have that cord laying around.

Plug that cord into the back of the cabinet, and the other end into your controller.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on January 17, 2017, 02:56:12 AM
Thanks Habs,
I'm sure I've got one of those somewhere, thanks once again for your advice! I'm going to give this another try in a few days, ill keep you guys posted on the results.

Johnny.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on February 01, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Gave this temp controller another go today.. started off ok but it seemed to take along time to cut back in and bring the temp back to its setting. Needless to say i am not impressed with this inkbird.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 02, 2017, 02:12:42 AM
What is the heating differential set to. I have a similar heating/cooling device that I can set the range from 1°F to 20°F. I set mine to 2°F. If I set it to 20°F, it will overshoot by 20 degrees, and won't click back on until it drops 20 degree below the set temperature. By setting it to 2°F, the on/off cycle will be 2 degrees above the set temperature, and 2 degrees below the set temperature.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on February 02, 2017, 06:52:15 AM
Habs I will have to look at the manual, I would say that's what my trouble is because it seemed to be around 20  degrees b4 it kicked back in. Half my problem is that I don't know how to work the device. Maybe I should do my homework.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 03, 2017, 01:43:12 AM
A lot of time these electronic gadgets have a learning curve. It took me awhile and some trial and error to understand how to operate mine.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on February 03, 2017, 04:00:43 AM
Yes, not as easy as it looks sometimes :)
When I look online it seems mostly everyone is using them for brewing purpose.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: thrdrock on February 05, 2017, 08:53:55 PM
I have the Original Bradley Smoker, with the old style puck burner, and the old heat control below the door. Always had trouble getting the temp set without overshooting or undershooting. Got the Auber PID set up specifically for the Bradley. IT WORKS GREAT! Has six "programs" where you set the temp and time in each, and a probe that hangs down through the vent (I left mine just above the top rack). You can also get a wall mount probe that mounts to the back wall (if you are brave enough to drill a hole in your smoker!). Keeps the temp to within a degree or two without problem. The controller only controls the main element, the puck burner still works independently, so you can turn it on and off as needed. Have used it for several briskets, and just last week made my first batch of kielbasa....worked like a charm! here is the link for the Auber
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_28&products_id=72

Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on February 06, 2017, 02:49:41 AM
Thrdrock thanks for the info.
I would guess there are a few pid's out there and no doubt some are definitely better than others, (you get what you pay for )
I'm not going to give up on this inkbird just yet tho, if it weren't for Habs it would have been in the trash by now lol
When it comes to electronics it's definitely not my forte! So I have to have patience so to speek,im a cabinet maker who owns/operates a kitchen and bath business, a couple years ago we purchased a used CNC machine for cutting our boxes and I spent so much time trying to learn it that I got fed up and sold it lol. 
Anyhow I'm thankful for this forum with all you guys that carry so much knowledge on so many aspects of pretty much everything!
Cheers!
Johnny.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on March 11, 2017, 10:56:18 AM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on February 02, 2017, 02:12:42 AM
What is the heating differential set to. I have a similar heating/cooling device that I can set the range from 1°F to 20°F. I set mine to 2°F. If I set it to 20°F, it will overshoot by 20 degrees, and won't click back on until it drops 20 degree below the set temperature. By setting it to 2°F, the on/off cycle will be 2 degrees above the set temperature, and 2 degrees below the set temperature.
Habs just thought you might like to know I got this inkbird working perfectly thanks to you!  It was the HD setting..it was factory set to the highest temp and once I did what you said It started to work like a charm! Thanks my friend!!
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 11, 2017, 01:04:42 PM
Great to hear you have if working properly. It will make using your Bradley much easier.
Title: Re: Temp controller
Post by: Johnny on March 11, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
Just took the bacon out, your right.. things seemed alo't smoother, more of a steady climb on the thermometer and didnt take as long .
Sure wish I had fooled around to get that working sooner!