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Bradley Smokers => The New Bradley Professional Smoker (BS1019) => Topic started by: Bradley (Head Office) on March 12, 2019, 04:56:08 PM

Title: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on March 12, 2019, 04:56:08 PM
Coming Soon! Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker. 1000 watts of heat, recipe download capabilities for 50 recipes, smoker will read the recipe sequence and perform accordingly, ISmoke technology, Bisquette generator fully contained inside unit, PID controlled ....its going to change how people smoke!

Estimated Launch date in North America May 15th

Check out the Bradley Smoker Fan Club page on Face Book
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TMB on March 13, 2019, 05:16:54 AM
No pictures or a hint??  Not fair ;)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TedEbear on March 13, 2019, 10:52:52 AM
1000W and a PID from the factory?  Now that's what I'm talking about (and what I've been suggesting for years).   ;)

The big question is how much will it cost?  Too high of a price will keep most people away.  Price it to compete with other smokers that have less features and you'll have to add a second shift at the production facility to keep up with demand in sales.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on March 13, 2019, 12:46:06 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally a REAL smoker. Now that is what everyone has been waiting for. I asked Santa last November and he came through for me!!!!!  Thank You
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: rexster on March 13, 2019, 02:18:22 PM
I might just have to get hold of one of those
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: BC Smoker on March 13, 2019, 03:24:35 PM
Found this on the internet, found it interesting.
https://hpbexpo.com/show-info/new-products-pavilion/
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TedEbear on March 13, 2019, 04:40:34 PM
(https://hpbexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Bradley-Smoker-BS1019-002.jpg)

Bradley BS1019 Pro Smoker

The Bradley Pro 1019 Smoker has room for 6 15x13 racks, 4 included, and is wide enough for a full rack of Ribs or side of Salmon. With our 2-element heating system and Bradley Bisquette burner, it has over 1,000 watts. Bluetooth enabled, USB available for loading up to 50 of your favorite recipes.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TMB on March 14, 2019, 05:02:33 AM
(https://hpbexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Bradley-Smoker-BS1019-002.jpg)

Bradley BS1019 Pro Smoker

The Bradley Pro 1019 Smoker has room for 6 15x13 racks, 4 included, and is wide enough for a full rack of Ribs or side of Salmon. With our 2-element heating system and Bradley Bisquette burner, it has over 1,000 watts. Bluetooth enabled, USB available for loading up to 50 of your favorite recipes.
Looks good but $$$??
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: KyNola on March 14, 2019, 07:07:14 AM
The cost is $799 USD.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: cathouse willy on March 14, 2019, 09:12:15 AM
If the smoke gen is enclosed in the cabinet how will you cold smoke?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TMB on March 14, 2019, 09:24:23 AM
Price maybe a little high, but we'll just have to wait and se how this unit looks and feels..   Can't wait to see one up close
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on March 16, 2019, 07:22:21 AM
I’ve been confirmed that the only way to cold smoking with this device will be to adding tray of ice.

It remains me a mixt between the Smart 916 and the countertop 712 but in 4 rack seize because it’s an all in one device. The generator won’t be removelable . And it will comes with only one power cord for both the generator and the tower so, the heat controller better be good because no external pid will be plugable due to the only one cord instead of two as usual.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Jkwellborn on March 24, 2019, 03:08:41 PM
I’m kinda wanting one. Not sure if I can justify $800 on it though. But man it looks good.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 27, 2019, 02:50:29 AM
Looks interesting, unfortunately I suspect the price will limit much uptake on this side of the pond. Cold smoking ability is an issue and conversely I am amazed that this is the first time that Bradley have offered a factory supplied 1000 watt unit which should perhaps be standard across the range? Certainly be fun to have a play with one.  :)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: icerat4 on March 30, 2019, 01:51:26 AM
O goodie a new toy
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: icerat4 on March 30, 2019, 02:07:55 AM
True story I was the first customer to own the 1st digital smoker when they came out.Is this new unit still on time to be released date.its a purchase from me...I’m back   Lol
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 30, 2019, 03:57:23 AM
I also remember all the problems you were having when you were the first one. ;) This smoker is not for me, but I've learned over the years to let others deal with and work out the kinks on a new product; before deciding to make a purchase.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: thepro8 on March 30, 2019, 04:42:22 AM
Really like the idea of this, but concerned on the cold smoking ability. I just need it for cold smoked salmon. Any thoughts on how hard it would be with ice.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on March 30, 2019, 04:44:03 AM
Sure not the smoker I’d use for cold smoking. Only possibly is ice tray.
Title: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on March 30, 2019, 04:46:03 AM
But it could be the best hot smoker if their digital controller works as advertised.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: thepro8 on March 30, 2019, 04:57:45 AM
Wonder if it has a food temp probe. Would be nice
Title: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on March 30, 2019, 04:59:37 AM
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Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: RedJada on April 03, 2019, 02:57:26 PM
 Looks good. Sure would be nice to send a handful out to users to try out first to work out any bugs and review before full launch. 
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manfromplaid on April 03, 2019, 04:25:04 PM
I would throw my name in the hat for a chance to try it out.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TMB on April 04, 2019, 06:48:23 AM
I would throw my name in the hat for a chance to try it out.
Yep add me to the list!   I cold smoke but not enough to worry about this unit doing it or not
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Army_flea on April 06, 2019, 05:58:37 AM
Bradley should’ve made it WiFi capable cause the Bluetooth range isn’t far at all.  I will guess the problems with the Bluetooth with happen with the new model too.


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Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: dubob on April 10, 2019, 07:50:08 AM
So, Bradley FINALLY decided to come into the 21st Century.  Something to keep an eye on for sure.  Might have to replace my current 10-year old digital (BTDS76P) w/ Auber PID in 2020 or 2021 if they get all the bugs in this new one worked out by then.   ;D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Brad004 on April 12, 2019, 07:20:37 AM
I've been using BTDS76P 990216 model from a long time now. Will definitely buy this as the one I have is pretty old now. :D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: icerat4 on May 01, 2019, 02:37:02 AM
Is there a release date yet on this unit
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: dubob on May 01, 2019, 06:24:56 AM
Just took a look at https://www.bradleysmoker.com and found nothing about it.  Not even a press release announcing it.  I found that odd with the estimated release date just 2 weeks away.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TMB on May 01, 2019, 12:45:09 PM
Just took a look at https://www.bradleysmoker.com and found nothing about it.  Not even a press release announcing it.  I found that odd with the estimated release date just 2 weeks away.
Just building up for the BIG day ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on June 03, 2019, 06:28:23 PM
Anyone seen or heard if Bradley is still planning on releasing this big bad boy? Any ETA?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on June 03, 2019, 07:26:52 PM
On the Facebook page, they said tentatively end of July but date can still change.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on June 03, 2019, 11:32:55 PM
Interesting project but given Bradley first indicated a May then July release date, possibly longer, suggests a few teething problems? As others have said earlier I would be waiting a while once they are released to give them a chance to iron out the inevitable post release issues as well.

Conversely no doubt there will people who want be be the first to buy, I wish you luck and look forward to your posts and feedback.  :)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: drdale on June 18, 2019, 12:13:03 PM
Does anyone know if the upgraded 1000 w heater is available so I can upgrade my old 6 rack smoker?  I have a PID on my 500 w single heater model and it never gets up to heat.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: jpowers40828 on June 19, 2019, 10:39:00 AM
Why not just add a second 500w heating element?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on June 19, 2019, 10:41:26 AM
Not available before end of July
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on July 08, 2019, 02:38:02 PM
Direct from Bradley:  "Thank you for contacting Bradley Smoker. The BS1019 will not be available until September at the earliest."
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on July 08, 2019, 02:43:34 PM
What a downer
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on July 09, 2019, 02:45:05 AM
I wonder what the issue(s) is/are? Hopefully they decided to incorporate wi-fi, and this is the reason it is taking longer. But it is more likely a mechanical problem. I still think it was a mistake for Bradley to build in the smoke generator into the cabinet. It may make it look more modern, but may also increase the mechanical issues.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on July 09, 2019, 02:58:44 AM
Habs, wifi is really unlikely. Last time I talked with a Bradley rep, the said they’ve chooses Bluetooth over WiFi for security reasons.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on July 09, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
Thanks for the update. Their reason about security sound fishy to me. Yes, security may be a problem, but there are so many companies using wi-fi home networks without major security problems. I have two devices that not only use my home network, but those companies have their own server that you can connect to, or have to connect to. Once I connect to the company server, as long as my phone stays connected to a wi-fi source, I can go down to the mall do my shopping, and still control my device. Safety and liability would be a more reasonable concern. They may not want someone to be too far away, while monitoring their smoker.

I do have to say it is a nice looking smoker.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on July 09, 2019, 01:32:25 PM
My pid is WiFi man so I sure know what you’re talking about
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on September 19, 2019, 01:00:58 PM
Habs, wifi is really unlikely. Last time I talked with a Bradley rep, the said they’ve chooses Bluetooth over WiFi for security reasons.

I should have wifi. Period. No excuses. Firstly, a wifi Bluetooth chip cost is almost the same. Secondly - if this is a security issue, then it is the homeowners WIFI security issue and having a smoker attached to it is the least of their concerns.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on October 01, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
Anyone seen this big bad smoker yet? Any idea if you can cold smoke with it? Any idea when it'll be on sale and how much?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 02, 2019, 02:48:04 AM
Bradley has a brochure you can download, but no manual as of yet. I downloaded the brochure a couple of days back, and the brochure states you can set the temperature from 5 - 100º C / 41 - 212º F. But there is no explanation on how to achieve those low temperature, since you cannot detach the generator. That will probably be explained in the manual, but the only way I can see this is adding ice to the cabinet, or maybe the area where the bisquette burner is located is insulated from the interior cabinet.

Bradley Smoker BS1019 Brochure (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Bradley-Smoker-1019-Brochure.pdf)

Looking more closely at the brochure, it states the smoker internal operating temperature range is 30 - 160º C / 86 - 300º F, so it looks like you will need to put ice in the cabinet to ensure the temperature stays below 90°F.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on October 02, 2019, 11:57:33 AM
Thanks for the info Hab, I've been looking on line and Bradley sight for information on this smoker to no avail. Just the usual sales and generic info.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: GusRobin on October 02, 2019, 05:57:40 PM
went to Kitchen Window website. They show it for $799.99 but out of stock.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on November 07, 2019, 01:37:13 PM
ETA is mid to late December
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on November 08, 2019, 07:12:43 AM
It will be very interesting to see how this performs, how it can be utilised for cold smoking and overall reliability?

On this side of the pond Bradley UK seem to be indicating a 2020 release date but with no info exactly when?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on December 11, 2019, 02:09:04 PM
It is now called the "BRADLEY PROFESSIONAL P10 5 RACK 1000W FOOD SMOKER"

https://www.bradleysmoker.com/product/2019-digital-6-rack-smoker/#additional_information (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/product/2019-digital-6-rack-smoker/#additional_information)

and there is still no confirmed anything. Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on December 12, 2019, 02:06:32 AM
Thanks for the update.

Also they now have the manual online, but some updating still needs to be done. The manual still refers to it as the BS1019. It seems a direct link to the manual cannot be posted. But you can get to it from the link henninge posted. The manual claims it can cold smoke, and recommends using ice to keep the cabinet temperature down.

Very unusual how they are handling this roll out. It's got to be hurting their current sales. There must be a lot of people holding off buying a Bradley until they can see what the new model can do.

Happy Holidays to you, also.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on December 12, 2019, 10:49:29 AM
Big thanks habs for waking me up about the release of the owner manual. It must have been released really not so long ago because I looked really often and it wasn’t there last time I checked.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on December 12, 2019, 01:13:31 PM
Big thanks habs for waking me up about the release of the owner manual. It must have been released really not so long ago because I looked really often and it wasn’t there last time I checked.

You're welcome. I skimmed through, but will read it more closely later.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TedEbear on December 16, 2019, 04:46:28 PM
The manual still refers to it as the BS1019. It seems a direct link to the manual cannot be posted.

Bradley 6 Rack Capacity Digital Smoker Professional Series (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/BS1019-manual_non_BT_ENG_final_v3.0.pdf)

P10 Pro Smoker Brochure (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/P10-Smoker-Brochure.pdf)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on December 17, 2019, 02:16:51 AM
The manual still refers to it as the BS1019. It seems a direct link to the manual cannot be posted.

Bradley 6 Rack Capacity Digital Smoker Professional Series (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/BS1019-manual_non_BT_ENG_final_v3.0.pdf)

P10 Pro Smoker Brochure (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/P10-Smoker-Brochure.pdf)

Great! It seems like Bradley fixed the link.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on January 03, 2020, 04:22:59 PM
So..... I read the manual. Did i see that bluetooth has been removed? Did I read that right? If this is the case - I really don't think it should be advertised as "SMART" Just mho. What is being advertised as smart is really not that smart in 2020. Anyone get an updated ETA?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on January 03, 2020, 04:24:52 PM
No, still there.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Gafala on January 09, 2020, 07:20:41 PM
No, still there.
It could be they are saying SMART because it has Blue tooth.

Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TedEbear on January 11, 2020, 11:37:13 PM
I posted this in another area but here's a short video about it.

The New Bradley Smoker BS1019 Digital Smart Smoker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lAUIY0AEK0)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on January 23, 2020, 10:34:28 AM
Could someone show me where is says bluetooth in the manual? I just did a search throught pdf and didnt see it. Getting old i guess. Reghardless, shouild still be wifi
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 23, 2020, 01:46:10 PM
It seems that Bradley has opted to drop the Bluetooth feature, and thus the change in model name from the BS1019 to the P10. The original plan was a Bluetooth model, because many of the forum members were questioning why not wi-fi also. With many consumers complaining about the Smart Smoker app it appears that Bradley couldn't work out the bugs. They may still have the Bluetooth capability built in, and when they develop a decent app they may release the app in the future.

If you click on the original link to the broacher that I posted, that brochure states it is Bluetooth capable, but if you look at the link that TedEBear posted, that brochure has no mention of Bluetooth. The link is still current. If Bradley takes it down before you view send me a PM and I'll send you the pdf.

Bradley Smoker BS1019 Brochure (https://www.bradleysmoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Bradley-Smoker-1019-Brochure.pdf)
Title: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on January 23, 2020, 01:51:25 PM
One thing I know, it will take windows usb flash drive to upload a recipe. It could explain the situation. Maybe they didn’t want to use both.

P.s. my apologies, I just remarked that the brochure has been updated. Even the manual doesn’t mention Bluetooth anymore.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 24, 2020, 03:44:35 AM
One thing I know, it will take windows usb flash drive to upload a recipe. It could explain the situation. Maybe they didn’t want to use both.

P.s. my apologies, I just remarked that the brochure has been updated. Even the manual doesn’t mention Bluetooth anymore.

So it looks like they are going to launch a "less" smart model, and maybe the Bluetooth version will be launched later on. It can't cost that much to add Bluetooth, so I'm guessing that the model will have Bluetooth technology and when they develop a decent app they will reveal it. That flash drive is not only to load recipes, but to update firmware as improvements are made in their technology. Put that is just a pure guess.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on January 24, 2020, 11:03:09 AM
For cold smoking the new Professional Smoker manual states:

• Use the smoke option only.
• Open the damper to its maximum.
• If outside temperature is too hot, use ice to keep the temperature around 32°C (90°F)
To avoid ice dripping, place the ice cubes into a plastic container or Ziploc bag and place it on the lower
rack. Refill the ice once it’s melted.
NEVER PLACE THE ICE LOOSELY ON THE RACKS
NEVER FULLY COVER THE RACK WITH ICE – IT WILL RESTRICT THE SMOKE FLOW


Elsewhere in the manual specifications it says the minimum internal cabinet temperature is 30C / 86F which suggests that its very design precludes smoking at temperatures below this? However all available safety data I can find indicates that cold smoking should be done at no more than 20-30 degrees C (68 - 86F) and in any case should not to exceed 30C / 86F. Cold smoking is also time dependent but in most cases will fall between 2-5 hours in a conventional Bradley and use of a cold smoke adaptor makes this achievable. However the Professional Grade manual suggests there may be a need to use ice to bring the temperature down to 32 C / 90F which to my mind could well be a food safety issue, personally the lower the temperature the better for cold smoking (within reason) and I would be loath to go above even 20C / 68F for any length of time. Perhaps the new professional smoker should not be advertised as a cold smoker per se?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on January 24, 2020, 11:27:38 AM
Habs, it’s clearly state in the manual the thing you expressed about the firmware. So you’re right.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: icerat4 on January 26, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
Any new news on release date
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Gafala on January 26, 2020, 03:33:05 PM
I found this awhile back might still be good.

https://huntwise.com/gear/bradley-smoker-pro-1019-electric-smoker
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: henninge on February 06, 2020, 04:22:06 PM
Says you can buy now on this page:  https://www.bradleysmoker.com/electric-smokers-bradley/

But the link is leads to an unavailable product : https://www.bradleysmoker.com/electric-smokers-bradley/clkg/https/www.amazon.ca/dp/B082G1WG3T
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on February 19, 2020, 02:45:33 PM
Someone posted online that the new Bradley is on sale in Canada at Canadian Tire in Ontario for $1039.00 cdn. ($780.00 USD but no store location was given.)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TedEbear on February 19, 2020, 04:21:49 PM
Someone posted online that the new Bradley is on sale in Canada at Canadian Tire in Ontario for $1039.00 cdn. ($780.00 USD but no store location was given.)

This one?  CAN$899.95

Bradley Pro Grade Smoker BS1019 (https://www.myric.com/Bradley-Pro-Grade-Smoker-BS1019-p/bs1019.htm)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on February 19, 2020, 04:23:55 PM
Yes sir!
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on February 20, 2020, 03:22:47 AM
At one point it was being advertised in the UK at just over £1000, however whilst the advert is still there the price has been replaced with a comment saying “this item has been discontinued by the manufacturer or the supplier.”

All very strange, it would be nice if Bradley could provide a forum update but I suppose any problems are commercially sensitive?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on February 20, 2020, 08:41:26 AM
That's the one, I see the prices are still fluctuating till it settles down, hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: vanhawki on February 23, 2020, 09:48:06 AM
Anyone (Bradley?) know the size of this? External, internal dimensions? Weight? Will the current racks work or do you need a different size? #worstproductlaunchever?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on February 23, 2020, 10:05:06 AM
I read somewhere that the racks will be 13x15 and the currents are 11x13.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: TedEbear on February 23, 2020, 10:30:32 AM
Anyone (Bradley?) know the size of this? External, internal dimensions? Weight? Will the current racks work or do you need a different size? #worstproductlaunchever?

Click on the link and then the tab for Technical Specs

Bradley Pro Grade Smoker BS1019 (https://www.myric.com/Bradley-Pro-Grade-Smoker-BS1019-p/bs1019.htm)

Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on February 23, 2020, 10:42:33 AM
Big thanks Ted!
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 23, 2020, 01:54:43 PM
Anyone (Bradley?) know the size of this? External, internal dimensions? Weight? Will the current racks work or do you need a different size? #worstproductlaunchever?

I have to agree with you about the launch. Now it appears that it's been launched but they are doing it slowly. If so, that would be a good idea, so they can stay on top of any technical issues, and resolve them quickly.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on February 24, 2020, 02:33:19 AM
Quote
Coming Soon! Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker. 1000 watts of heat, recipe download capabilities for 50 recipes, smoker will read the recipe sequence and perform accordingly, ISmoke technology, Bisquette generator fully contained inside unit, PID controlled ....its going to change how people smoke!
Estimated Launch date in North America May 15th

The quote above is from March 2019 with a release date of May 2019 so where is the update from Bradley Head Office? In my experience when a delay occurs (very often companies look to gain a perceived commercial advantage by releasing information too early) a company is better off saying yes we have had x, y, or z problems but this is how we have resolved them rather than soldier on with no or disinformation. Anyone who is in the market for a new smoker will find this thread, other media sites etc and wonder what on earth is going on.

I worked in a hospital Pathology Laboratory and have a fair bit of experience of manufacture equipment launches both "hard" and "soft", we also acted as an Alpha development site and Beta test site on a number of occasions and the implications and ramifications of a poor launch can go on for years just as the benefits of a good launch set you up for many years.

Ideally Bradley now have this unit out with say half a dozen independent and experienced smokers allowing them to test the thing almost to destruction, perhaps taking them back after a while to take apart and examine both mechanically and electronically to identify potential problems together with comprehensive feedback from these users?

As a committed Bradley Smoker user and fan it must be said this particular episode has been handled very poorly by Bradley not least in allowing ongoing conjecture to cloud the minds of potential purchasers, I would think twice about having one even if Bradley offered to give it to me because of the information I have seen so far and how I use my smoker.... not that they would!  ;)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 24, 2020, 01:41:01 PM
I totally agree. Also the failure to keep consumers informed on the delays I'm sure they lost business from potential customers who got tired of waiting and purchased another brand.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: vanhawki on February 25, 2020, 02:08:57 PM
Thanks for the replies -  Something with a USB slot isnt "smart", why doesn't it have 5 racks with it out of the box? can you even buy 5th rack? SO frustrated with Bradley regarding this product.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: vanhawki on February 28, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
Fully admit I'm on the sarcastic side, but I just sent Bradley this: If you could fix your link to the P10 as it is a 5 rack smoker (I believe), that only comes with 4 racks (weird), with a hyperlink stating 6 racks. Really weird product launch, man. https://www.bradleysmoker.com/product/2019-digital-6-rack-smoker/


Just adding this. Can you even buy a single 5th rack of the correct size, today - so you can use the 5 rack (or maybe its 6 rack) smoker?? - kind of really seems that someone(s) at bradley don't give a rats a$$. And for someone that likes there product (may or may not work in the industry    8)     ), its VERY disappointing.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on February 29, 2020, 02:25:32 AM
It is most odd that Bradley have not addressed people’s comments and concerns nor have they provided a product release update yet all the time continue to advertise something that does not appear to be available on their home page?

Rightly or wrongly potential customers will assume there is something significantly wrong cause unknown. I have doubts about cold smoking ability, others like vanhawki have different questions but this is a company moderated forum and yet there is still no news or updates and they appear happy to let the conjecture continue?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 29, 2020, 02:46:34 AM
Having a couple of vertical charcoal smokers I don't find it odd that there are more rack rails than racks. It gives you better options on where you can position the racks you want to use, but of coarse those companies give you the option to purchase extra racks. These days it is hard to tell if Bradley will have that as an accessory, especially when they can't even provide racks for their other smokers. If the issue is do to a disruption in the supply chain, you would think they would let their customers know that.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: OrdinaryJoe on February 29, 2020, 07:17:43 PM
This is a strange launch. I can't figure out what is going on and if this smoker is doomed to be a lemon.

I live in Calgary where it seems the only actual inventory that I have been able to find is. Myric is in Calgary. I popped by there last weekend and they don't have any currently, and said that all of their next shipment is spoken for already. They are shipping them to the customers in the states. That can't be cheap. Myric is such an odd business to get the first ever production units. It's a little mom and pop appliance repair place in the middle of nowhere. So weird.

Only 2 local Canadian Tire's have them, out of 11 in the area. I popped to both of them today. 1 has it in the warehouse still. The other had it on the salesfloor, but boxed. So I have yet to actually see one out of the box.  The side of the box had BS1019 on it, but the CT website lists it as P800. So confusing.

I emailed Bradley last summer and this is what they said (below). Clearly, the end of September didn't happen and not anywhere close. Nor does Cabelas or Bass Pro have it first.

I'm trying to decide if I go with the Canadian Tire one and risk that this product has serious problems, or risk not being able to get one.  Also, I can't help but think that these types of problems and the lack of communication suggest to me that the company is in a death spiral and going out of business is imminent.


Thank you for contacting Bradley Smoker,

               The BS1019 smoker will be in Cabela/Bass Pro first. We are looking at the send of September. Also are you in the United States or Canada?

Thanks
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 01, 2020, 02:42:26 AM
What ever the reason they are definitely losing sales. If they are launching by a slow roll out , that would make sense. When Weber launched the Charcoal Summit, it was such a new design compared to their other charcoal models that they had a slow roll out. They limited production for the first two years, and only sold it at limited-small appliance stores, and hardware stores. Weber also sent out press releases, and put information on their website to let the consumer know what they were doing. The lack of information from Bradley can't be helping their brand name.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 01, 2020, 03:20:34 AM
I did wonder if it is simply a supply chain issue, similarly like Habs also says it could be a (very!) slow / soft roll out to allow for user feedback and to give time to resolve any technical issues. However chances are that at least one person who has acquired one of these almost mythical items would be reporting positively or negatively on the forum?

Bradley have done themselves no favours on this one, even the lack of communication itself is very strange?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 01, 2020, 03:46:28 AM
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26 February 2020: We are delighted to announce that the new Bradley P10 Professional Smoker has now arrived in our European warehouses and is available for delivery to our European dealers.

Just found the above on the Bradley smoker UK website, there are even some P10 specific recipes for duck, pheasant, salmon etc !  :)

https://www.bradleysmoker.co.uk/

Also now being advertised for sale in the UK with a 2-3 day delivery, for example:

https://www.nisbets.co.uk/bradley-professional-smoker-bs1019eu/fe640

Hopefully we will begin to get some feedback on this unit before too long although given the UK price of around £1000 including tax sales may be limited to purely professional outlets as the name suggests.

Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 01, 2020, 01:16:18 PM
WOW!!!

It does exist!!!
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: iceman on March 01, 2020, 03:27:04 PM
I think Manxman should send us a couple to try out Hab.  ;D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 02, 2020, 12:22:06 AM
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WOW!!!

It does exist!!!

Next will be news that the Loch Ness monster has been found Habs!  :)

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I think Manxman should send us a couple to try out Hab.

Let me just check my lottery tickets from the weekend ice and once I have confirmed I won the jackpot quite happy to send a couple over to you and Habs  ;)

Two good news stories in a week, the P10 does exist and icemen is posting on the forum, really nice to see that Pat.  ;D


Edit: Bad news I'm afraid, those P10's will have to wait till next week and the lottery jackpot win!!  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 02, 2020, 03:02:00 AM
I think Manxman should send us a couple to try out Hab.  ;D

Hi Iceman;
Good to see you posting. Also I couldn't agree with you more.  ;D

Manxman;
I'm wishing you the best of luck. ;D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: iceman on March 02, 2020, 03:39:23 PM
I know you can pull the win off for us Manx. Best of luck. They don't even have a lottery in Alaska. Bummer.  :(
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 03, 2020, 02:28:51 AM
Off to Austria for a week this coming Saturday but I have already bought the winning ticket so the lady on the till assures me!  ;) :)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 03, 2020, 01:21:25 PM
I have my address all typed out. I just have to hit the send button, when you give me the word.  ;D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: iceman on March 03, 2020, 04:05:30 PM
Have a good trip Manx. Hab and I will wait until you get back then send shipping instructions. Just did a Italian spicy beef roast for the Chicago style sandwich in the old original Bradley that is now about 20 years old and still cooking. Sure would like to try one in a new fancy smoker!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manfromplaid on March 03, 2020, 06:03:46 PM
I could use one of those also manx but no need to ship it all the way out here my youngest just moved to Belfast for 2 years and she could just come pick it up.  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 04, 2020, 01:29:33 AM
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have my address all typed out. I just have to hit the send button, when you give me the word.

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Have a good trip Manx. Hab and I will wait until you get back then send shipping instructions. Just did a Italian spicy beef roast for the Chicago style sandwich in the old original Bradley that is now about 20 years old and still cooking. Sure would like to try one in a new fancy smoker!!!

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I could use one of those also manx but no need to ship it all the way out here my youngest just moved to Belfast for 2 years and she could just come pick it up.

It is good to know there are so many supportive and helpful people on this forum trying to make my life that bit easier!  ;) ;D  Beginning to look like I need to win Euromillions rather than just a couple of million on the UK lottery or maybe winning both would be better given the local boatyard owner is out of the goodness of his heart trying to sell me some fancy "fly by wire" new boat! (not happening!) 8)  Belfast is but a hop, skip and a jump from us manfromplaid so that one will be very easy!  ;) ;D

Joking apart I do hope the P10 is a success for Bradley, perhaps they should hold a competition to see who is using the oldest BS....you can't be far off having the oldest one still cooking Ice although there may be some competition from Habs?

Looking forward to Austria, they seem to have smoked food that I have never tried before such as smoked pike and perch. No more smoking here before I go away but when I get back I have some cod roe in the freezer awaiting the Bradley treatment.  ;)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 04, 2020, 03:18:15 AM
Enjoy your trip to Austria. The smoked foods sound good. Also keep us updated on the PS10 if you come across one on display.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: manxman on March 04, 2020, 07:16:04 AM
Thanks Habs, will do on both counts.  :)
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Brianpcooney on March 14, 2020, 01:08:35 PM
Anybody actually have this thing yet?   From what it looks like in the video, the burners are still only in the back.  I'd hoped they would've had one in the back and one in the front, or one on each side. A big issue i have with my OBS is that it overcooks things in the back, and things in the front take forever.  I've since gotten in the habit of making a foil barrier across the back so the heat goes more up the center, instead of straight up the back wall of it.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 14, 2020, 01:48:30 PM
No hands on reports yet. Having a burner both in the back and front would be a good idea, but it would make changing the water bowl unsafe.

How do you construct the foil barrier, so that there is no buildup of heat, and the foil doesn't burn? How well does it work?
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Orion on March 14, 2020, 02:19:17 PM
Anybody actually have this thing yet?   From what it looks like in the video, the burners are still only in the back.  I'd hoped they would've had one in the back and one in the front, or one on each side. A big issue i have with my OBS is that it overcooks things in the back, and things in the front take forever.  I've since gotten in the habit of making a foil barrier across the back so the heat goes more up the center, instead of straight up the back wall of it.

I haven't seen one so can't comment on its design. I had the same issue with hot spots in my BDS 4rack...hotter towards the back and bottom sections and having to rotate racks more than was convenient.
I suggest installing a small fan inside and wiring it entirely separate from the smoker. Once I did there was a big difference in heat distribution, moisture dissipation and less need to rotate racks.
Just used a 4 inch fan from a used convection oven and mounted it on the back wall about half way up. I put stops on the 2nd rack support rails so the 2nd rack can still be installed but only slides in enough for door to just close. Thus way the rack does not contact the rotating fan blades.
Cheap and easy fix for your issue.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Olev on March 19, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
Anybody actually have this thing yet?   From what it looks like in the video, the burners are still only in the back.  I'd hoped they would've had one in the back and one in the front, or one on each side. A big issue i have with my OBS is that it overcooks things in the back, and things in the front take forever.  I've since gotten in the habit of making a foil barrier across the back so the heat goes more up the center, instead of straight up the back wall of it.

There are two 400W heating elements reaching accross from left to right, 6 inces appart. Provides nice and even heat.
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Toker on March 24, 2020, 06:59:38 AM
Look, even free shipping!


https://www.bradleysmoker.com/ca/product/bradley-professional-p10-5-rack-1000w-food-smoker/?v=f56615994110
Title: Re: Bradley BS1019 Professional Grade Smoker
Post by: Edward176 on March 24, 2020, 05:55:32 PM
Oh WOW Toker, it's $850.00 Canadian!!! and free shipping to boot!!  A little different, but hopefully it'll do well and all the bugs are out of it before I buy one :)