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Title: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigRed on September 09, 2004, 03:57:08 AM
Fellow Smokers!

I know this Polish person did not come up with this idea BUT has anyone cold smoked a TURKEY and then deep fried it in peanut oil?
I want to do this for THANKSGIVING. I will also smoke ducks, have a Honey baked ham and the Mrs. likes old fashion turkey in the oven with stuffing. We can feed anywhere from 4 to 44 friends. We are planning on 16 folks. The Mrs. all ways gives out doggy bags!

BigRED
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Chez Bubba on September 09, 2004, 04:05:11 AM
And what time should I show up in order to not be considered unfashionably late?[:D]

http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: nsxbill on September 09, 2004, 05:48:57 AM
I deep fried a turkey last year...pre-Bradley Smoker.  I am sure it would enhance the flavor.  If you have not deep fried turkey before make sure you don't do one larger than about 11-12 lbs.   Amazing how much oil they displace...and you don't want that surprise when the oil is hot!

Great taste...no leftovers for our group of six.

Bill
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Chez Bubba on September 10, 2004, 03:22:27 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by nsxbill</i>
<br />Amazing how much oil they displace...and you don't want that surprise when the oil is hot!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Best tip I've ever read is to fill your pot with water, then lower the frozen or cold turkey in & remove enough water to the (1/2 full, 3/4 full, "x" inches from the top....I don't remember) and put a mark inside the pot. That way come frying day, no surprises. Just fill the oil up to the mark & no boil-overs.

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigRed on September 10, 2004, 03:49:04 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Chez Bubba</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by nsxbill</i>
<br />Amazing how much oil they displace...and you don't want that surprise when the oil is hot!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Best tip I've ever read is to fill your pot with water, then lower the frozen or cold turkey in & remove enough water to the (1/2 full, 3/4 full, "x" inches from the top....I don't remember) and put a mark inside the pot. That way come frying day, no surprises. Just fill the oil up to the mark & no boil-overs.

Kirk
http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
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Kirk!

You are absolutely correct in Turkey frying. I learn from experience and the hard way. My first fried Turkey experience had a garage floor full of peanut oil and a scare with fire! After 6 fried Turkeys, this is the reason for purchasing the electric Turkey fryer, no open fire. I will try the smoke/fried Turkey before the big holiday to iron out any issues and I am sure there will be issues. Just got the second temp. control today from BS corporate and hope my on going issue will finally go away!


BigRED
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: MallardWacker on September 10, 2004, 01:55:28 PM
BigR,

Oh' turkey man.  SInce you have done 6, please tell me youre temps you use for oil and the breast.  My first fried bird was a mess.  I have tasted TOO many good ones to give up.

SmokeOn,

mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

If a man says he knows anything at all, he knows nothing what he aught to know.  But...

Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigRed on September 10, 2004, 02:54:44 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by MallardWacker</i>
<br />BigR,

Oh' turkey man.  SInce you have done 6, please tell me youre temps you use for oil and the breast.  My first fried bird was a mess.  I have tasted TOO many good ones to give up.

SmokeOn,

mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

If a man says he knows anything at all, he knows nothing what he aught to know.  But...


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Smokeon!

Here is what I have done for deep frying a turkey. Firts the bird should be no bigger than 12-14 lbs. Like Kirk said put the bird in the pot, fill with water, take the bird out and mark the level. I use nothing but peanut oil. The cooking temp. should be between 300 to 325 degrees. Bird should be room temp. ( I inject mine the night before) Bird stays in for 4 minutes a pound. Temp will drop when bird is submerged. Do it ever so slowly, you still will get a splatter. Keep the temp. between 300 and 325 and not above that. You should be OK. I have never done just a breast but the same temp and time thing should hold true. Hope that helped. I am sure other folks have additional information that will help us both.

Good Luck and let us know!

BigRED
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Fuzzybear on September 11, 2004, 03:57:39 AM
BigRED:  I ditto Chez...you now have two more settings to worry about...what time is dinner? When is the "Pre taste dinner" (you know, just in case it's bad!) LOL!!

 Dang that sounds good...I wish I could help you out with personal experiences however, I just hot smoked my buzzard!

"A mans got to know his limitations"
Glendora, CA - USA!
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Smalls on September 11, 2004, 06:37:58 AM
I'm not sure if this hint will help when frying a turkey or not.  I have always rubbed butter on the skin right before I season it and put the turkey in the oil.  Someone told me to do this once and it has always turned out great.  One would think that the butter would melt away and mix with the oil having little effect on the overall flavor.  I have never NOT done this so I have nothing to compare it to.
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 21, 2004, 11:20:41 PM
I was at Sam's Club today, and they had an electric turkey fryer, which will take up to a 14 pound turkey. As posted in this forum, that's about the same as the gas ones. It came with a stand, but a picture on the box also showed it sitting on a kitchen counter top. The problem; it was $99.00. Also there were no accessaries, other then the basket. I am trying to determine if the extra $30.00 is worth the expense. It has a thermostat, so temperature control should not be a problem. Has anyone had any experience with this type of deep fryer, or are they new to the market?
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigSmoker on October 22, 2004, 12:44:23 AM
HS,
I saw one in a Russell for men catalog.  Seemed like it was 140.00 but I think it had several accessories.  Went to their web site but didn't find the fryer so I ordered a catalog.  It looked very nice.
Considered one for turkey and other family type things[:)].

Jeff
www.bbqshopping.com
Some say BBQ is in your blood, if thats true my blood must be BBQ sauce.
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigRed on October 22, 2004, 12:46:41 AM
Quote<i>Originally posted by Habanero Smoker</i>
<br />I was at Sam's Club today, and they had an electric turkey fryer, which will take up to a 14 pound turkey. As posted in this forum, that's about the same as the gas ones. It came with a stand, but a picture on the box also showed it sitting on a kitchen counter top. The problem; it was $99.00. Also there were no accessaries, other then the basket. I am trying to determine if the extra $30.00 is worth the expense. It has a thermostat, so temperature control should not be a problem. Has anyone had any experience with this type of deep fryer, or are they new to the market?

Hab Smoker!

I purchased one of these from Sam's and that is what I intend to use this Thanksgiving. I have not used it yet and am going to try before T-Day. I think the extra $30.00 is worth it when it comes to the fire issue when oil goes over the top on to the propane burner. I have done probably 8 fired turkeys and even though I am very careful oil always goes over the top for what ever reason. I always do them in the garage on cardboard boxes cut in sections.

BigRED
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Chez Bubba on October 22, 2004, 02:26:08 AM
What am I missing here guys? Is there something that prevents the electric one from overflowing? In my mind, it doesn't matter if the hot oil meets flame or a red-hot burner plate, it's still gonna go poof.

And if it's gonna happen, I'd rather it be in the garage as opposed to the kitchen.

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: nsxbill on October 22, 2004, 03:05:00 AM
Ditto on that Chez!

These items are designed for use on cement or dirt outside.  Just too risky to do anywhere where there is a possibility of fire.  

If you are frying your turkey this year, here is an idea for the oil!

I got one of those things that does the blossom onions, and did a couple onions last year for appetizers.  What the heck the oil is hot and ready to use before the turkey goes in!

Bill

Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigRed on October 22, 2004, 03:11:22 AM
Quote<i>Originally posted by Chez Bubba</i>
<br />What am I missing here guys? Is there something that prevents the electric one from overflowing? In my mind, it doesn't matter if the hot oil meets flame or a red-hot burner plate, it's still gonna go poof.

And if it's gonna happen, I'd rather it be in the garage as opposed to the kitchen.

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com


















Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
Kirk-

Now let me preface my statement with, "I have not used the electric Turkey fryer as of yet. The difference between the propane and the electric is the elctric heating element is inside the pot. You have the propane heat source exposed on the outside. Bubbling oil will not catch on fire with the electric fryer but it definitely will with a propane burner.

I once tried to de-bone a deer I was luck enough to bag in the house and almost got a divorce, I would not EVER press my luck trying to fry a turkey in the kitchen!!!



BigRED
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 22, 2004, 03:19:09 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Chez Bubba</i>
<br />What am I missing here guys? Is there something that prevents the electric one from overflowing? In my mind, it doesn't matter if the hot oil meets flame or a red-hot burner plate, it's still gonna go poof.

And if it's gonna happen, I'd rather it be in the garage as opposed to the kitchen.
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Kirk;

With this fryer you submerge the heating coil in the oil, then turn it on. There was some wording on the box about it was designed to be less likely to overflow. If it did, there was nothing on the outside of the unit that would catch the oil on fire, but if you're indoors it would create one hell of a mess. I believe it was designed to be used in a garage or patio when frying turkeys that is why they include a stand, but if you are using it to steam clams, corn or other items, I believe they were trying to convey that it could be used conveniently in your kitchen.
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 22, 2004, 03:25:04 AM
BigRed;

I guess we replied within minutes of each other. For the additional $30.00, I think I'm going back and pick one up for myself, and one for my brother. What really has me sold on this unit, is the thermostat, and the heating element within the unit. Knowing Sam's I better act quick, sometimes, once an item is sold out, you will never see it again at Sam's.
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: BigRed on October 22, 2004, 04:10:40 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Habanero Smoker</i>
<br />BigRed;

I guess we replied within minutes of each other. For the additional $30.00, I think I'm going back and pick one up for myself, and one for my brother. What really has me sold on this unit, is the thermostat, and the heating element within the unit. Knowing Sam's I better act quick, sometimes, once an item is sold out, you will never see it again at Sam's.
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H. Smoker!

How right you are about Sam's! I think they pride themselves in running out of product.Living in the Dallas area we have many Sam's to chose from and many a time the wife and I have gone to three or foru of them to find something that our local Sam's does not have or will not get again. I will post my results of the Smoke/fryed Turkey.  I may try to smoke/fry a chicken first just to see how it works. I will post this too!

BigRED
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Chez Bubba on October 23, 2004, 02:29:34 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Habanero Smoker</i>
<br />Kirk;

With this fryer you submerge the heating coil in the oil, then turn it on. There was some wording on the box about it was designed to be less likely to overflow. If it did, there was nothing on the outside of the unit that would catch the oil on fire, but if you're indoors it would create one hell of a mess.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Aaahhh, immersion heater, that never occurred to me.[B)] BUT, not having an external heat source ignite the oil does not preclude the possibility of the oil igniting an external substance because of its' heat capacity.

Basically, deep frying something that large can be very dangerous if you don't bother to learn the proper techniques or indulge in too many barley-pops before cooking.

I'll never do it inside and always have a fire extinguisher at hand. (Little shrimps in the Fry-Daddy excluded.)

Smoke/fry on,

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: JJC on January 29, 2005, 10:26:17 PM
quote:

IF YOU WERE TO PUT A PLATE OF THE BIRD ON YOUR HEAD,
YOUR TONGUE WOULD SLAP A BRUISE ON YOUR FOREHEAD TRYING TO GET TO IT.
____________________________________________

. . . I tried putting the bird on my forehead, but my tongue kept knocking it off before I could get a bruise . . .

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Chez Bubba on January 31, 2005, 12:40:44 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smokinrookie</i>
<br />on the top of your head<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smokinrookie</i>
<br />dude,
try puttin the plate on your head
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JJC</i>
<br />quote:

IF YOU WERE TO PUT A PLATE OF THE BIRD ON YOUR HEAD,
YOUR TONGUE WOULD SLAP A BRUISE ON YOUR FOREHEAD TRYING TO GET TO IT.
____________________________________________

. . . I tried putting the bird on my forehead, but my tongue kept knocking it off before I could get a bruise . . .

John
Newton MA
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remember.......all you can do is all you can do... then you are done!
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remember.......all you can do is all you can do... then you are done!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">You boys must be pretty popular with the ladies!![;)]

Kirk

http://www.chezbubba.com
Ya think next time I check into a hotel & they ask "Smoking or Non?" they would mind?
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: JJC on January 31, 2005, 04:44:23 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smokinrookie</i>
<br />on the top of your head<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by smokinrookie</i>
<br />dude,
try puttin the plate on your head
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JJC</i>
<br />quote:

IF YOU WERE TO PUT A PLATE OF THE BIRD ON YOUR HEAD,
YOUR TONGUE WOULD SLAP A BRUISE ON YOUR FOREHEAD TRYING TO GET TO IT.
____________________________________________

. . . I tried putting the bird on my forehead, but my tongue kept knocking it off before I could get a bruise . . .

John
Newton MA
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remember.......all you can do is all you can do... then you are done!
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remember.......all you can do is all you can do... then you are done!
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Damn it all!  I KNEW I must have been doing SOMETHING wrong . . . [;)]

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: bellejnd on May 02, 2005, 06:37:27 PM
Here are a couple of good tricks when frying turkeys:

Gas burners are better...need plenty of BTU's to recover the oil temp after dunking the bird in.....your frying not boiling!

don't rub too much seasoning on the outside of the bird... it will fall off and coat the bottom of your cooking pot.  Too much seasoning falling to the bottom will insulate the bottom and burn in your oil.

Try injecting some liquid crab boil in the bird along with your other injection juices...all us good cajuns do!

Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: CLAREGO on August 15, 2005, 02:19:11 PM

check this website out !
http://www.bbq-porch.org/turkey10.asp//
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: JJC on August 21, 2005, 02:24:33 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CLAREGO</i>
<br />
check this website out !
http://www.bbq-porch.org/turkey10.asp//
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Great website, Clarence!  A tad cumbersome to read and navigate, but maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning.  There's a ton of excellent recipes and ideas there!

John
Newton MA
Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: MallardWacker on August 22, 2005, 02:44:01 PM
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<br />Fellow Smokers!

I know this <b><font size="3"><font color="blue">Polish </font id="blue"></font id="size3"></b> person did not come up with this idea BUT has anyone cold smoked a TURKEY and then deep fried it in peanut oil?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">  You got to be kidding me, of course he did!

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mski
Perryville, Arkansas
Wooo-Pig-Soooie

If a man says he knows anything at all, he knows nothing what he aught to know.  But...

Title: Re: Smoking/Frying a Turkey!
Post by: Brabus on September 14, 2005, 08:02:13 PM
Hey guys, this is an old thread, but I still thought I'd give some responses...

I've fried over a dozen turkeys now over the past couple of years and it's still something I very much enjoy!! Now i'm all occupied with the BS lately, but I will definitely always love my 30qt fryer :)

The fryer is a great too and you just need to be creative but careful with it. ALWAYS do it outside and I suggest on dirt to avoid fire potential. Turkeys, chicken, fish, tempura, calimari, fries, etc. are all fair game :)

enjoy!