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Title: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: EnglishGuy on January 09, 2008, 05:55:47 AM
As you can probably gather, I live in England, but my secretary is from Minnesota and when she learned I was getting a smoker, I've been innundated with requests from her!

She's asked me if I could do Smoked Gouda. Shouldn't be too difficult, except that American Gouda is not the same as Dutch Gouda (which is what we get here). From internet searches, American Gouda is in a log shape with what appears to be a thin wax or plastic coating, whereas the real McCoy (Gouda from Holland), is a large flattened disk with a thick wax coating.

I'm trying to work out how American smoked Gouda is made, because the coating would probably be impervious to the smoke. Am I right?

So,  has anyone had any experience with cheeses that have a wax covering?  Should I remove the covering so that I can get a good result?

Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: manxman on January 09, 2008, 06:04:08 AM
QuoteShould I remove the covering so that I can get a good result?

In a word..... yes!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: iceman on January 09, 2008, 01:06:12 PM
Like I used to say when I was young and watching the gals at the beaches in Southern California Take it Off... Take it Off!!! :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: pensrock on January 09, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
I have not tried Gouda myself but I would defiantly remove the coating. Isn't Gouda a very soft cheese? Maybe I'm thinking of something else, but if it's soft you really need to keep an eye on your temperature. Keep it as cool as possible. I try to stay below 75 degrees F, 24 degrees C, when doing cheeses. Good luck.
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Bad Flynch on January 09, 2008, 02:45:54 PM
Gouda cheese is available in the U.S. in different forms and the little, flattened rounds are frequently seen. I am also able to get commercially smoked Gouda. Homemade is better. Just remove the wax from the cheese and smoke it.

If you have a tube or log, you might want to cut it into thick slices--about enough to eat at one sitting.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: EnglishGuy on January 09, 2008, 02:54:15 PM
Isn't Gouda a very soft cheese?

Gouda is a medium hard cheese. Well, it is in Europe.

I think my American secretary is used to American Gouda which would be a Wisconsin cheese. It comes in 'logs' which reminds me of Austrian smoked cheese which is more familiar here in Europe (but not of great quality), but I can't work out whether the milk is smoked or the whole cheese is smoked. I'm figuring that its all some kind of commercial process that is completely different from anything that could be achieved (better) at home.

I guess, I'll just have to have a play around and see what happens.
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: pensrock on January 12, 2008, 08:31:05 AM
QuoteGouda is a medium hard cheese. Well, it is in Europe.

Ok, I must have been thinking of another kind of cheese. I have never tried Gouda but I will now.
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Lefty_Smoker on April 28, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
Hey guys, I've now smoked a couple batches of a dutch gouda with excellent results.  I've been getting it in half lb wedges.  My first batch consisted of 2 lbs, or 4 wedges.  I removed the wax coating and them smoked them with 4 pucks of apple.  Vacuum sealed for a couple weeks and that was it.  Turned out very good.  Family now wants some.

I just did another batch of cheese the other night, 4 more wedges of dutch gouda, some meunster, provalone, sharp chedder, tillamook and another local variety, and just a little puck of dutch edam.   I used the same 4 pucks of apple as the last time, and then vacuum sealed it all up.  should be ready in a couple weeks.

Apple smoked gouda is very GOODA!  ::)

Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: EnglishGuy on April 30, 2008, 03:43:13 AM
Hi Lefty

Only 4 pucks?

When I first tried smokin' cheese, I did it for about the same time, but now I smoke for about 4 hours, and I think the results are better.  ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Lefty_Smoker on April 30, 2008, 05:48:09 AM
Yeah, only 4 pucks. 

I've only done a couple batches of cheese thus far.  The first batch I used 3 hours of hickory.  That batch didn't turn out so good.  The ash-tray test never went away, even after a couple months of being vacuum sealed.  After ruining over over $100 worth of various cheeses that time, I decided less smoke was needed.  Since then I've been using 4 pucks of apple and have had much better results.

Next batch I'll probably try upping it a bit, maybe 2 hours (6 pucks) of apple.  That might be a happy medium.

Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
Man...I love smoked gouda...:(
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Ontrack on May 06, 2008, 05:38:53 PM
Quote from: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
Man...I love smoked gouda...:(

With all of the complaining about never getting to cold smoke cheese, you should be blocked from this (and other cold smoking) posts. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 05:54:57 PM
OnT...I will be the consumate woman that I am...uh..I appreciate your input and will take it under advisement..thank you for your learned advice...My brother is 6'3" and 260...where do you live in Virginia again? :)
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Ontrack on May 06, 2008, 06:14:53 PM
Right beside the pistol range, LQ. Right between an ATF agent and a father raper. 8)
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Arcs_n_Sparks on May 06, 2008, 06:16:02 PM
I remain, steadfastly, drinking at a distance....

Arcs_n_Sparks
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Ontrack on May 06, 2008, 06:19:27 PM
I'm crouching right behind you, arcs ;)...
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Ontrack on May 06, 2008, 06:24:13 PM
Kindly thank him for that, LQ. :)
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Arcs_n_Sparks on May 06, 2008, 06:32:34 PM
Reaching for beverage number 3......   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Ontrack on May 06, 2008, 06:36:39 PM
Reaching for the dog to hide behind.... ;D
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 08:06:19 PM
Nah...OnT...bro is a good guy unless you mess with his little sis...then he gets (well you'd know about this) uh...CRANKY...I believe...you are somewhere within 15 minutes of the Speedway...we also have a lot of cop friends..wanna knock off the cheese remarks now Mister? I will eagerly await your reply? :)
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: huhwhatliar on May 06, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
Quote from: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 08:06:19 PM
Nah...OnT...bro is a good guy unless you mess with his little sis...then he gets (well you'd know about this) uh...CRANKY...I believe...you are somewhere within 15 minutes of the Speedway...we also have a lot of cop friends..wanna knock off the cheese remarks now Mister? I will eagerly await your reply? :)

smoked cheese, smoked cheese, smoked cheese  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 08:51:43 PM
I like ya Huh...OnT tries to piss my off...don't know why exactly...just fun I guess...I like it tho...like the idiocy...by the way are we smokin stuff...this is a food website right?
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Arcs_n_Sparks on May 06, 2008, 08:53:03 PM
reaching for beverage #5.....

Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: huhwhatliar on May 07, 2008, 01:47:59 AM
Quote from: La Quinta on May 06, 2008, 08:51:43 PM
I like ya Huh...OnT tries to piss my off...don't know why exactly...just fun I guess...I like it tho...like the idiocy...by the way are we smokin stuff...this is a food website right?

I like you too LQ, you keep me laughing with some of your posts. I know I'm smoking food  :o. As for food website that's up for debate some times.

Domenick
Title: Re: Smoked Gouda ???
Post by: Ontrack on May 07, 2008, 10:30:28 AM
Hmmmm....