Its time to do another brisket!
Packer trimmed 9.8 lb, I find that about the biggest the racks can handle is about 12 lbs. I don't like to seperate the point from flat unless I just have too. Aged in the fridge for 3 weeks.
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Nice looking fat cap!
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And the other side
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Fat cap trimmed up a bit
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And our other side, this brisket had a pretty good size fat ribbon running between the flat (to the left) and the point (to the right) so cut out most of it. You don't have to do this, but I always like to run my knife into it to see how thick it is and like this one remove quite a bit, notice you get a nifty little flap. You can also see the different grain of the meat flat goes one direction and the point the other. Keep this in mind when you go to slicing after cooked.
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Our nifty little flap layed back over
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Now for our rub, I like using from the SS book, wild willy's number one-derful rub. Rub both sides and up under the flap we made when we cut out the fat ribbon!
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Now into a large ziploc bag and into the fridge overnight. Next day, out of the ziploc and onto the counter for about an hour while your smoker is heating up.
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Into the smoker, fat cap on top @ 220 for 4-5 hours of mesquite smoke, if you want to use another wood I won't hold it against ya! ;D
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Looking pretty good so far! Now into foil pan, fat cap on top still, wrapped tightly with foil and into the house oven @ 220 for 18-20 hours. If you want to complete the cooking process in your BS, go for it, I've dont it before with excellent results. But I usually have other things to get into the smoker! Plus I don't like leaving the BS unattended for that amount of time.
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Now we're getting somewhere,, steaming hot! I don't shoot for any particuler IT, when its done its done, but probably somewhere in the 190-205 range I would guess. IMO you really can't overcook a brisket! Now for some serious FTC, till dinner time! To quote Emeril wish we had smell-a-vision! Save your juice from the pan to use as a base for sauce.
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Slicing pics coming up this evening!
C
Nice pics and brisket WTS. You got me hankerin' for another brisket!
WTS, I do not know if its the mesquite or what but that looks really bad, you better send it to me for proper testing. ;) ::)
But really, that looks great. After my surgery I'll have to pick up a brisket and try it out myself. :)
Hey West, what time is dinner? It sure looks "perty"!!!
Quote from: pensrock on August 11, 2008, 12:25:36 PM
But really, that looks great. After my surgery I'll have to pick up a brisket and try it out myself. :)
How you feelin' pensrock ?
I keep meaning to type out my gall bladder notes, but I haven't got around to it...
In a nutshell:
The laproscopic surgery is not all that bad, you feel not 100% for about 3 days, then movin' slower than ususal for the rest of the week.
One of my concerns was what I can/cannot eat without a gall bladder. Long story short, five years later I eat pretty much anything I want. I followed their guidelines for a while, then started experimenting and soon enough I was back to my old diet. I'm Definitely not a vegetarian.
WTS, when you age the brisket, do you keep it in the cryovac or do you put it into another container? Do you feel that helps the tenderness?
I just did a packer brisket this past weekend as well. Man, I love that cut of meat. I hadn't done one in over a year, maybe two. What was I thinking. I used 6 hours of maple smoke & left it in the BS for about 18 hours (could've gone 20hrs but we were hungry) and ftc for 5 more hours. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. It must have smelled good, too. When I put the mutt out at 4:30am I saw a skunk run away from the BS. lol
Hey WTS,
Do you wrap up the brisket tightly in foil before you put it into the foil boat or do you wrap the foil boat?
I just wanted to clarify.
Carter
Yep leave it in the cry-o-vac, it may be my imagination, but I think it helps with the tenderness!
Just cover the foil pan not the brisket, also I don't add any extra liquid to the pan. The fat cap and meat itself will make all the juice ya need!
Thanks for the kind words guys!
C
WTS...Holy Moly...I'm speechless...except for YUM...the perfect partner for mesquite!!! :D
Okie Dokie out of our FTC and resting for a moment...went 7 hours with FTC a little longer than I wanted, but the kids were running a bit late coming to town
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About 20 minutes rest and time to slice....Dinner time! Thanks guys and gals!
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C
Looks mighty fine Westex! ;)
Drool... Drool... Drool...
There goes another keyboard! :D
Mike
very nice post wts. you started with 'select' and ended up 'perfect' ;D
WTS -- that's incredible looking!
I'm going to have to try brisket again some day.
Deb
Thanks Deb and Mike! and everyone else!
Brisket can be a misunderstood beast...the key is low and slow, and its so very true, its a one full day of cooking/smoking to get it right. I can say with the BS, think (well maybe) I gotta fiqured out! ;D Not gonna get rid of the offset, damn used that thing for years, but the temp swings and babysiting (I happen to like to sleep) was more than I wanted to deal with, unless as I've learned in a contest you can't use the BS..so keepin both! Good Q, simple low and slow and nice bit of mesquite smoke (ya knew I had to throw that in)! Keep a smokin everyone!
C
Looks great WTS. I still have a question about the wet aging. How do you know how long the meat can sit in the cryovac to wet age before it actually goes bad?
The reason I ask is from some past experiences I have had. Most of the butts and briskets I purchase are cryovac. Briskets being whole packer. I had a cryovac butt in the fridge before that was there for maybe a week before I opened it to smoke it. Had a bit of an off oder so I though it better to toss than to risk it.
The last time I purchased a brisket I talked to the butcher about keeping it in the fridge. I was looking at purchasing 2 of them to be done on 2 consecutive weekends. The butcher said it should be alright as he had only had them for less than a week in his fridge. I should have asked him about the wet aging and will have to next time I am there.
Here is the dilema:
I don't recall there being a packing date on the package so how do you know how long you can age before the meat goes bad? If purchasing from a meat market, you probably can find out how long they have had the meat in their possession but not before then. If buying from a regular chain store, they most likely don't have a clue. So then, how long can you go before you go from wet aged to sour mash?
I've never had a brisket go bad on me, I think the longest I've gone is 5 weeks it got pushed to the back of the fridge! Porks a whole different critter (pun intended!) and have never let it go past the use by date, but then again I don't do much pork. I've also had a brisket start growing a little green stuff on it, but still smelled fine cut away the green beasties and smoked up beautifully...did'nt point this out to anybody, and nobody got sick! But 3 weeks seems to be a pretty good cut-off date, check with your butcher and see what he says, I'd be curious! If I can remember I'll do the same!
C
I just smoked a brisket last Thursday.
I have smoked 3 briskets in my Original Bradley, the first one tasted like the BBQ tri-tip I get locally here in Ventura, the second and third one was absolute crap, same cut of meat way to fatty.
I got a 9lb packer brisket at Smart and Final, I chopped it in half at the fat line to fit the Bradley, left it untrimmed of all top fat, put a dry rub on the meat side and smoked it for 9 hours with a combo of Hickory, Alder & Oak, no Mesquite for this So Cal'er, it was on for 14 hours total over night, which means no-mopping what-so-ever.
After 14hrs I wrapped it in foil turned the smoker down to 150 deg F and let sit for 6-7 hours, no ice chest or oven involved
Pulled Brisket is what I ended up with, best I ever had.
No ovens, No Microwaves, No towels, no 0!
And now for my next trick, I will reveal how I don't cook Brisket in a crook-pot, oven, microwave, grill and Bradley smoker all at the same time.
Nice post, WestTex. Like the pictures a bunch.
Thanks Consig!
Thought about doing a brisket 101, but ya know there's not really a set way to do things...but gonna keep trying! Oh well except for the mesquite! ;D
C
Welcome to the forum SS!
As I posted in my other response before I read yours.. still agree there is no set way to do any smoking, brisket or anything (well maybe Habs CB or Kummoks salmon!) Keep us posted! I'm always up for new ideas!
C
PS....Nah, ya gotta use mesquite.... ;D :D ;D !
Quote from: SmokeySmell on August 12, 2008, 05:12:33 PM
and smoked it for 9 hours with a combo of Hickory, Alder & Oak, no Mesquite for this So Cal'er, it was on for 14 hours total over night,
Welcome SmokeySmell,
Where in So Cal are you from? Several on the board here.
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 12, 2008, 08:10:57 PM
Thanks Consig!
Thought about doing a brisket 101, but ya know there's not really a set way to do things...but gonna keep trying! Oh well except for the mesquite! ;D
C
I think you should. Everyone here has their favorite cut of meat and favorite technique, and most here recognize that technique is more art than science. You do brisket a lot more than others here (at least from what I've recognized with other posters here). Share the info and if you're willing the reasons, pros and cons for doing it that way (that wealth of info) and let others decide if its what they want to do. I appreciate the opportunity to learn from the experience of others, even if it only helps me consider my own cooking techinique. I think the "reasons" for doing something is almost a bit more important than the way an individual will approach the task. Sometimes there's more than one approach to a problem, and the reasons help people understand your technique and why you do what you do.
Personally, I cook more pig than beef in the smoker and have learned volumes just reading the daily posts here. I'd welcome some brisket debates about issues and technique. I'm sure there'll be plenty of opinion and a variety of solutions offered. but the discussion is what will enable each person to develop their strategy.
So, rant aside, please share all you're willing to share. My first question: what is the best wood to use when smoking brisket? ;)
Thanks again for the post and any experience you're willing to share.
Allright Consig...Give me a bit to figure out what kind of wood to use....Ooo got it!, and pull some cow from the freezer! We'll give it a go! I think I'll start a new thread and call it Brisket 101 and would like all the members to include their thoughts, techniques and pics of briskets as we're going along. Good plan, bad plan?
C
My first question: what is the best wood to use when smoking brisket? ;)
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And you can't use the letter q in your answer. ??? Just messing with ya WTS.
oohh...ooohhh....I know...HICKORY? No Q in hickory (unless I'm spellin' it wrong)!! :D :D
I was thinking a nice light Alder or Special Blend ? ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Gizmo on August 12, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: SmokeySmell on August 12, 2008, 05:12:33 PM
and smoked it for 9 hours with a combo of Hickory, Alder & Oak, no Mesquite for this So Cal'er, it was on for 14 hours total over night,
Welcome SmokeySmell,
Where in So Cal are you from? Several on the board here.
Thanks
I am from the Ventura County area.
Super, that is close enough. I'll volunteer you to attend the next SoCal get together. Probably be in La Quinta. ;)
Quote from: Gizmo on August 13, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Super, that is close enough. I'll volunteer you to attend the next SoCal get together. Probably be in La Quinta. ;)
Gizmo
That would be really fun..
You are more then Welcome SmokeySmell...shootin for Jan/Feb (when it isn't like the surface of the sun here!!)
Quote from: La Quinta on August 12, 2008, 09:30:58 PM
oohh...ooohhh....I know...HICKORY? No Q in hickory (unless I'm spellin' it wrong)!! :D :D
But there is a Q in La
Quinta :P
Yeah...well...that doesn't count...after all I'm a girl...WE MAKE THE RULES...You guys know that right? :o
Yes Maam!!
C
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 12, 2008, 08:53:39 PM
Allright Consig...Give me a bit to figure out what kind of wood to use....Ooo got it!, and pull some cow from the freezer! We'll give it a go! I think I'll start a new thread and call it Brisket 101 and would like all the members to include their thoughts, techniques and pics of briskets as we're going along. Good plan, bad plan?
C
Sorry for the delayed response (crazy week): Great plan!
Quote from: La Quinta on August 15, 2008, 08:54:52 PM
Yeah...well...that doesn't count...after all I'm a girl...WE MAKE THE RULES...You guys know that right? :o
;D
QuoteYeah...well...that doesn't count...after all I'm a girl...WE MAKE THE RULES...You guys know that right?
LQ, Deb......
I learned a long time ago not to argue with women/girls. Because even if you win the battle in the end you lose the war. Women do not play fair.... :P
;D ;D ;D
Pens,
It all depends on your definition of fair ;D
QuoteIt all depends on your definition of fair
Deb,
I choose to follow sparkeys example and remain quietly drinking at a distance. :)
Quote from: pensrock on August 16, 2008, 01:26:59 PM
QuoteIt all depends on your definition of fair
Deb,
I choose to follow sparkeys example and remain quietly drinking at a distance. :)
I'm with you on this one, pensrock!
Ditto, Ditto!! ::)
C
Quote from: La Quinta on August 15, 2008, 08:54:52 PM
Yeah...well...that doesn't count...after all I'm a girl...WE MAKE THE RULES...You guys know that right? :o
I just have one word to say. WRONG :P
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Quote from: pensrock on August 16, 2008, 08:41:06 AM
QuoteYeah...well...that doesn't count...after all I'm a girl...WE MAKE THE RULES...You guys know that right?
LQ, Deb......
I learned a long time ago not to argue with women/girls. Because even if you win the battle in the end you lose the war. Women do not play fair.... :P
;D ;D ;D
All right, I'll engage (since my wife doesn't read this site): I don't think there'd be too many rules without women. Well, more correctly, there wouldn't be anyone around to tell us guys that we were breaking them. ;D
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 16, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Story of my life always in trouble. But it's only LQ so I'm not too worried.
Oh boy...I need a minute to digest this before I respond ???
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 16, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 16, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Story of my life always in trouble. But it's only LQ so I'm not too worried.
Dom, you're flying too close to the sun ;) Like Icarius, you're gonna get burned. My wife doesn't read the site either, but I still know enough to know that in my household, if I'm unhappy, I'm the only one unhappy. If Momma's unhappy, all are unhappy. That's enough to convince me that we're just a squirrel trying to get a nut in a woman's world. ;D
I continue to remain quietly drinking at a little further distance.... ::) ;D
I'm with you on this one Pens.
Wow... That distance drinking sure is gettin' crowded! :D
I'm in! .... I'll take a party any day rather than being in... ahhh... you know! ;)
Mike
Sounds like we need a run to the package store - long distance of course.
Quote from: Smoking Duck on August 17, 2008, 05:36:51 AM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 16, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 16, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Story of my life always in trouble. But it's only LQ so I'm not too worried.
Dom, you're flying too close to the sun ;) Like Icarius, you're gonna get burned. My wife doesn't read the site either, but I still know enough to know that in my household, if I'm unhappy, I'm the only one unhappy. If Momma's unhappy, all are unhappy. That's enough to convince me that we're just a squirrel trying to get a nut in a woman's world. ;D
Well duck I disagree with you, I'm not flying close enough ;) Also I don't have to worry about a wife, I am very happily single and plan on staying that way ;D
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 17, 2008, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on August 17, 2008, 05:36:51 AM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 16, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 16, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Story of my life always in trouble. But it's only LQ so I'm not too worried.
Dom, you're flying too close to the sun ;) Like Icarius, you're gonna get burned. My wife doesn't read the site either, but I still know enough to know that in my household, if I'm unhappy, I'm the only one unhappy. If Momma's unhappy, all are unhappy. That's enough to convince me that we're just a squirrel trying to get a nut in a woman's world. ;D
Well duck I disagree with you, I'm not flying close enough ;) Also I don't have to worry about a wife, I am very happily single and plan on staying that way ;D
Fortunately, I think you're well on your way of meeting your goal ;D. Me? I need a woman to keep me straight and mine does just fine. I just wish I wasn't such a challenge for her, but she's always been an overachiever :) See, to me, secks is a lot like playing golf. I can play alone, but I'd really prefer playing with someone else ;D
Quote from: Smoking Duck on August 17, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 17, 2008, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on August 17, 2008, 05:36:51 AM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 16, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 16, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Story of my life always in trouble. But it's only LQ so I'm not too worried.
Dom, you're flying too close to the sun ;) Like Icarius, you're gonna get burned. My wife doesn't read the site either, but I still know enough to know that in my household, if I'm unhappy, I'm the only one unhappy. If Momma's unhappy, all are unhappy. That's enough to convince me that we're just a squirrel trying to get a nut in a woman's world. ;D
Well duck I disagree with you, I'm not flying close enough ;) Also I don't have to worry about a wife, I am very happily single and plan on staying that way ;D
Fortunately, I think you're well on your way of meeting your goal ;D. Me? I need a woman to keep me straight and mine does just fine. I just wish I wasn't such a challenge for her, but she's always been an overachiever :) See, to me, secks is a lot like playing golf. I can play alone, but I'd really prefer playing with someone else ;D
Duck do me a favor and drop it.
Hey, LQ: I was just funnin.
No worries Consigs...there are some very smart men (like yourself) on this thread...and then there is HUH... :D :D :D Shame isn't it? Poor fella!!! ;D
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 17, 2008, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on August 17, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 17, 2008, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: Smoking Duck on August 17, 2008, 05:36:51 AM
Quote from: huhwhatliar on August 16, 2008, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: westexasmoker on August 16, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Oooo, your gonna be in trouble!...Its a mans world that woman control! ::)
C
Story of my life always in trouble. But it's only LQ so I'm not too worried.
Dom, you're flying too close to the sun ;) Like Icarius, you're gonna get burned. My wife doesn't read the site either, but I still know enough to know that in my household, if I'm unhappy, I'm the only one unhappy. If Momma's unhappy, all are unhappy. That's enough to convince me that we're just a squirrel trying to get a nut in a woman's world. ;D
Well duck I disagree with you, I'm not flying close enough ;) Also I don't have to worry about a wife, I am very happily single and plan on staying that way ;D
Fortunately, I think you're well on your way of meeting your goal ;D. Me? I need a woman to keep me straight and mine does just fine. I just wish I wasn't such a challenge for her, but she's always been an overachiever :) See, to me, secks is a lot like playing golf. I can play alone, but I'd really prefer playing with someone else ;D
Duck do me a favor and drop it.
I'm sure glad I joined Pens and continue to drink at a safe distance!. ;D ;D ;D
Roger that Big Red!
Quote from: La Quinta on August 17, 2008, 05:32:08 PM
No worries Consigs...there are some very smart men (like yourself) on this thread...and then there is HUH... :D :D :D Shame isn't it? Poor fella!!! ;D
Ya poor pitiful me :'(
Remember LQ, rules are made to be broken (especially yours :D )
Hey everybody. I have this thread saved as a good brisket reference. Now it's getting gummed up with all this stuff.
Can we shift this thread back to a much more important topic: Brisket, and the smoking thereof.
Carter
Sounds llike its time to get my brisket 101 thread started! ;D Plan on starting it this coming weekend, briskets getting happy in the fridge for now....till then!
C