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Consumables and Accessories => Accessories => Topic started by: Dex on December 15, 2008, 03:23:37 PM

Title: Knife
Post by: Dex on December 15, 2008, 03:23:37 PM
I'm looking for a good knife to cut all my smoked meat with. Any suggestions? I see on the Food Network these guys use awesome knifes that just slice right through the meat. Looks like a hot knife through butter.

Not looking for a set, just the knife only. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: nickld on December 15, 2008, 05:44:53 PM
I use an 8" Wustof Classic chef's knife for the vast majority of my projects. I love it. Was a Christmas present.

~Nick
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Savannahsmoker on December 15, 2008, 05:54:58 PM
All good knife's need to be sharpened.  Get a good electric shapener and you will be happy.  I sharpen the knifes once a month.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Buck36 on December 15, 2008, 05:57:44 PM
DO you like the Chef's Choice sharpeners? Or is there another you prefer more?
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Smokin Soon on December 15, 2008, 05:58:42 PM
If your only looking to buy one knife, then get a Wustof or Henkels, both high end but but worth it.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: nickld on December 15, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
Quote from: Buck36 on December 15, 2008, 05:57:44 PM
DO you like the Chef's Choice sharpeners? Or is there another you prefer more?

I have a Chef's Choice Professional Sharpening System, model 130. I think its fantastic! Can't really compare it to other brands as I haven't tried them. Nothing like a good, sharp knife.  One of the most important tools in the kitchen next to your hands...
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Savannahsmoker on December 15, 2008, 06:41:14 PM
I do not have a preference but I use the Chef's Choice 320 and no complants.  Use it alot when skinning shark as you have to sharpen about ever 5 or 10 cuts.  I got mine at Bass Pro Shop.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: csakis on December 15, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
I am really a knife nut. I particularly love kitchen knives. My favorite is the Global G-2. First I did not like it because it was lighter than the usual Wusthof or Henkel chef's knives. Read this article, it is worth it:
http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/129/Chefs-Knives-Rated (http://www.cookingforengineers.com/article/129/Chefs-Knives-Rated)
csaba
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Smoking Duck on December 15, 2008, 07:03:13 PM
I know this may be sacriledge, but I often use an electric knife when cutting my smoked foods.  Much easier for me to cut it evenly.  Nothing wrong with a regular knife.  I've lost some feeling and strength in my right arm and hand though, so the electric knife does wonders.  I especially like it with Canadian bacon unless I'm using my meat slicer to slice it up.

SD
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 15, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
After spending a few years working in a packing house. I just cant give up my stone, slate and ceramic for doing MY knives. Momma isn't allowed to touch them for two reasons. 1 She will take the edge off 2 I don't want her to take a finger off (almost happened just washing one). I really like the Santuko style of knives have several by different makers.


The main thing to remember is a DULL knife WILL cut you faster than a Sharp knife will.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Buck36 on December 15, 2008, 07:29:13 PM
That 130 is the one my cousin brings to the hunting cabin. It seems to put a pretty good edge on the knives when we butcher.

I believe the best knife is the one that feels the best. It seems a decent edge can be put on any of them. I have a hunting knife that cost way too much. I use it for dressing and skinning but when we do trim work I prefer a cheapo knife won at a Ducks Unlimited banquet.

I used to cook at a few restaurants and they alway delivered us a sharpened knife each week. There was nothing special about them except they were weighted well and sharp.

Quote from: Tenpoint5 on December 15, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
The main thing to remember is a DULL knife WILL cut you faster than a Sharp knife will.

Sharp or dull knives do deserve their respect too. The hunting knife I have is supposed to be one that will hold an edge well and is very sharp. Being an idiot I was rushing when we were processing our deer. It seemed like I touched my opposite hand when skinning, it went right to the bone. That scar still makes me shake my head when I see it. I made a dumb mistake because I was being complacent. You can never get too comfortable.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Gizmo on December 15, 2008, 09:28:11 PM
I would emphasis the comment Buck made that the bet knife for you is the one that fits your hands the best and is the most comfortable feeling.  In addition, the brand name alone does not guarantee the knife is a good quality.  Most brands out there have their low end low cost models that are barely worth any thing. 

I have an electric sharpener but tend not to use is.  The biggest problem with them in my opinion is they can easily ruin the tempering of the knife with the friction and heat they generate. 

I have been using the Furi sharpening system.  It is a good system but the reason I bought it was so that my wife can use it.  I use to use some ceramic sticks and they worked great.  The problem was my wife was not comfortable using them and was concerned she would mess up the edge.  The Furi is simple and easy to use and basically impossible to alter the edge.  She uses this which helps keep the edges razor sharp.  I cannot stand to use a knife that isn't sharp enough to shave with (literally).

For me, keeping the edge in top condition is extremely important to keeping knives working properly.  So good fit and proper maintenance with the best quality knife you can afford is the best advice I can give.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: La Quinta on December 15, 2008, 10:04:39 PM
Ww use a ceramic knife sharpener from Wustof...no big deal...little worley wheels...works like a charm. Have had it for years. Bout $30 bucks. The Furi sharpener Giz is describing...very kool...and fun to play with!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Smokin Soon on December 15, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
I kind of forgot about the Sani-Safe knives I have on the recomendations I had from some students at the San Francisco Culinary Inst. They liked the Dexter-Russell line of knives. Plain white handle, but very good knives.

http://www.dexter1818.com/sani-safe.asp?group_name=sani-safe.asp

Check other sources for better pricing.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: LilSmoker on December 15, 2008, 11:26:18 PM
I have a couple of decent sets of knives in the kitchen, but i also have another set now that nobody is allowed to use as i keep them very sharp, and i don't want them ruined  ;)

They are from a wholesaler and what you would see in a butchers shop, they have the various cheap looking coloured plastic handles, but the blades are excellent. I think Cabelas would probably stock them on your side of the pond?

Every time i use my knives i use a steel on them to maintain the blades edge, and if they start showing signs of blunting i will hone them on an oil stone. If knives are looked after properly, they will last a long time.

I also agree with what's been said, a knife has to feel comfortable and ballanced in your hand.



Title: Re: Knife
Post by: westexasmoker on December 16, 2008, 05:18:27 AM
I concur with the feel of the knife in your hand!  Another thing that I have become very partial to is carbon steel blades they hold an edge like no other, they do take a bit more care but I think well worth the extra effort!  Go on ebay and do a search for vintage henckels or old henckels!
C
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Caneyscud on December 16, 2008, 06:37:23 AM
I concur - vintage Henckels and a set of Ouachita stones all the way down to "surgical black".
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Dex on December 16, 2008, 09:23:05 AM
Thanks gusy for all the input. Tons of good info. Now I just need to find the right one.... with the right price!
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: drano on December 20, 2008, 06:02:04 PM
I got a Chefs Choice model 120 a couple years ago, and really like it.  I can put an edge on a knive in no time.  My wife hates it because they are too sharp!
Yea, they may take more steel off the blade per sharpening than good stone, but I've never learned that art, so I went electric. 
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: bflosmoke on December 20, 2008, 06:29:41 PM
Does anyone use those serated knives ? it seems to me that if I wanted teeth I would use a saw.
BFLO
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: dcpendarvis on December 26, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
Has anyone used the ceramic knives from Kyocera?
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Gizmo on December 26, 2008, 05:00:14 PM
Only as a test or comparison.  Ceramics are very sharp and great to use.  The only 2 drawbacks that I have heard about.
1.  Ceramic is brittle and can be broken.  Don't drop them or leave them loose in a drawer where they can bang into other objects that can break them.  Don't use them to cut hard or frozen foods and as with any knife, they are not for prying apart food, bones, etc.

2.  If and when they become dull, they cannot be sharpened by standard sharpening stones/methods.  They need to be professionally done.
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: BigFella on March 11, 2009, 09:16:01 AM
You guys are going to laugh at me, but some of the best knives that I've ever owned were the Miracle Blade III series.  We use the steak knives religiously.  The only other knives that I really use from the set are the slicer (GREAT long serrated knife), and the filet knife.  The slicer is great for anything that "folds" under pressure.  Brisket, tomatoes, bread...


Otherwise I have a set of Rachel Ray knives (Chef, serrated, paring).  And the Furi sharpener is PERFECT.

Title: Re: Knife
Post by: redsol1 on March 14, 2009, 07:37:58 PM
I've got a few Shun origional knives and I've never been happier. I've got the 8" chefs, 6" utility, and 3" pairing. Best knives I've ever used.

La'

Redsol1
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: West Coast Kansan on March 15, 2009, 01:51:52 AM
If it fits your hand and feels comfortable then you can consider it.  If it does not fit - we missed a lot of good comments above.  The fit and comfort means control AND safety.

The second element is keeping it sharp.  I like Gizmos sharpener as well and agree it is great in terms of protecting his knifes.  Today you can put a real keen edge on most anything but it does not stay.  I do think you can pick the knife style you like the best and then do a little comparison shopping.  I suppose you can get hosed over on money spent, but I think for the most part you get the quality you pay for...

I dont have any real high end stuff - but I do keep my varied choices sharp and for our purposes and uses I am happy.

Does anyone know of knives they would advise NOT purchasing?  Perhaps that would be a good question to ask..
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: redsol1 on March 15, 2009, 08:13:26 AM
Quote from: West Coast Kansan on March 15, 2009, 01:51:52 AM
Does anyone know of knives they would advise NOT purchasing?  Perhaps that would be a good question to ask..


Yea, don't buy Tuppware knives. We got a set as a gift. They loose an edge and it's impossible to get on back and keep it.

La'

Redsol1
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: drewpatton on December 28, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
I also use Shun Classic. I have been using them for about 3 years and couldn't be happier!
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: RAF128 on December 28, 2009, 07:11:37 PM
In the kitchen I use a Henkel chefs knife mostly.   Also have a Henkel paring knife.    For boning deer I use a Henkel boning knife.   For cutting meat for making sausage I use a butcher knife.   Sorry can't tell you the make but bought it at a butcher supply store.   It's got an 18" blade.    For sharpening I use a lansky kit and an essential tool when using a knife is a good steel.   
Title: Re: Knife
Post by: Paddlinpaul on December 30, 2009, 07:50:41 AM
I too have a full set of Henkels. They keep their edge really well. I worked in kitchens with classically trained chefs (Four Seasons Hotel among them) and that is all they used. If purchasing, make sure the logo on them have two little men and not one. The logo with 2 men are the professional series are are a lot better quality knife.