well I managed to get it in the BE. I took twine and tied the legs and wings in, then I run my rotisserie rod threw it so it was about 2" from the pointy end then I stood it in the drain hole at the bottom. I took bailing wire and tied it centered in the barrel and then set it on fire. It is working great but I am going to build a little stand for the bottom and a bracket for the top. The bottom needs to not sit in the hole cause the blood that drips out congeals and then blocks the drippings from running out into the pan. The top will be more conveneint with a centering bracket. This turkey is still to big for this BE and I think the legs will be scorched to hell. I would have to say 18lbs would be the max for future use. I will post picks when it is all done cause I am having trouble with my card transferring to my comp.