should i brine a pork butt or not

Started by Rad Rich, February 18, 2011, 04:51:03 PM

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KyNola

Score one for Rich!  Way to go man.  Sounds like you knocked it out of the park.  You only made one error that I can see.  You gave some to the folks next door.  From now on when they smell that smoke rolling they will be standing at the front door looking for their part! :D :D :D

Just kidding, nice job and way cool to share with the neighbors.

Tenpoint5

Quote from: Rad Rich on February 21, 2011, 10:06:15 AM
I was amazed at how easy the bone pulled out of the butt too.  That sounds a little wierd.

Anywhere else but here it would be weird!! Well done. Now to take it to the next level with some yellow sauce or vaunted vinegar sauce from over on the recipe site. Or better yet make you a batch of Bacon Jam and smear some o'that on your buns. ;D ;D

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Quarlow

Yes one day I will get a bone in shoulder roast and then I can pull the bone from the butt too. :o ;D ;D But for know I settle for boneless which isn't quite as much fun to describe.  :D :D :D
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BuyLowSellHigh

Way to go Rich!  Yes, you now have the addiction. 

You'll know the wife has caught the consumption side of the bug when you the get used to the rhythm, start looking too relaxed and out of concern she starts asking if the butt is okay .. when will it be done .. how is looking, etc.  Then you have it made!     ;)
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Caneyscud

Quote from: Tenpoint5 on February 19, 2011, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: Rad Rich on February 19, 2011, 08:06:51 AM
  My wife asked me why I was spending so much time with the smoker lately.  Said that I could probably use that time helping her clean up around the house..........   Better go stare at the smoker for a half hour or so.   hee hee

Good God Man don't let her find out how easy it is to use the smoker!!! It will ruin it for the rest of us. It is very very hard to control the temp and smoke when dealing with a smoker. It takes continuous observation and adjusting to ensure the proper outcome.
Should I?
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KyNola

Quote from: Caneyscud on February 22, 2011, 12:52:22 PM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on February 19, 2011, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: Rad Rich on February 19, 2011, 08:06:51 AM
  My wife asked me why I was spending so much time with the smoker lately.  Said that I could probably use that time helping her clean up around the house..........   Better go stare at the smoker for a half hour or so.   hee hee
Good God Man don't let her find out how easy it is to use the smoker!!! It will ruin it for the rest of us. It is very very hard to control the temp and smoke when dealing with a smoker. It takes continuous observation and adjusting to ensure the proper outcome.
Should I?
Swear him in Sarge!

Rad Rich

Smokin is only bad for you when you inhale.

Slamdunk

All u guys talking about butts has me thinking I've got to try it again. My first was not that great - although everybody else liked it. Don't know why, it just seemed like a lot of work for an average meal.

I've since been out to a local restaurant with Quarlow and Ross P and I ordered some butt and really enjoyed it. As Qaurlow stated in an earlier post, pulled pork isn't that popular up here in the Northwest so we don't get to experience it very often. I reallly don't know/haven't tasted a good Pulled Pork.

Stay tuned.

I'm going to research it a bit before I try it. Can anybody steer me to a post for a butt for two?


BuyLowSellHigh

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Quote from: slamdunk on February 22, 2011, 07:27:11 PM

I'm going to research it a bit before I try it. Can anybody steer me to a post for a butt for two?


Here's a link to my favorite butt thus far.

For starting I would suggest 4 hours of smoke, either hickory or oak (I used 5, but then I like smoke).  If you have less than a full butt (~ 9 lbs bone-in) you might even cut it back to 3 hours.  If you want a light smoke consider a different wood choice, like apple.

I like to trim all the surface fat or fat cap.  For a rub, a good starting point is the Renowned Mr. Brown.  I like to season with the rub about 12-24 hours before the start of cooking, wrap in plastic and refrigerate.  Take the butt out and let temper at room temp for about 2 hours, then slather, apply more rub and start the cook.

If you slather I highly recommend the molasses route.  This increases the surface sugar and gives a really nice bark. If you don't want to use molasses plain old cheap yellow mustard (CYM) works well also.

If you use mustard then I would recommend increasing the sugar in the rub.  Another good rub option with a higher sugar content is Alton Brown's 8:3:1:1 dry rub

Cook naked shooting for a cooking temp of 225 °F to an IT of 195 °F, then FTC for 2-4 hours.  I rotate once after the smoking period.  Expect about 1.5 hrs per pound, but a small boneless butt may take less time per pound, and a bigger bone-in butt (or a stubborn one) may take more.

I like to pull by hand wearing a pair of disposable food gloves.  When you come to bark that resists shredding into small pieces, set it aside. When all is pulled chop the bark pile finely and mix in evenly with the pulled pork.  Then I like to season the whole thing with Vaunted Vinegar sauce using 1 cup of sauce per 5 lbs of pulled pork.  At that level it is a mild seasoning that compliments the richness of the pork very well.

Expect a final yield of about 50-55 % of your raw meat weight.

I like animals, they taste good!

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Caneyscud

Quote from: Rad Rich on February 22, 2011, 04:09:05 PM
Swear me in, swear me in


Here ya go!

There is now sirens and red lights going off.  My newly designed and recently installed "EASY" alert system is working flawlessly.  Rest assured I am committed!  (ok, I left that one open for all ya'll (remember that's plural)).  That other sound you just heard was the arming of the IBD (Intergalactic Bradley Dreadnaught).  It is always prepared at a moment's notice to protect our ocean of plentitude, our intimate halcyonic macrocosm of barbecue.!!!!

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Now everybody don't moan at the same time - those that have been forum members for a time knows what is coming next.



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Raise your right hand, step on your left toe, close both eyes and read after me:

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"A man that won't sleep with his meat don't care about his barbecue" Caneyscud



"If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?"

Caneyscud

Quote from: slamdunk on February 22, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
All u guys talking about butts has me thinking I've got to try it again. My first was not that great - although everybody else liked it. Don't know why, it just seemed like a lot of work for an average meal.


They don't have to be a lot of work - just a lot of time.  BLSH has you a great route to a great butt - and I am intrigued with the molasses slather.  Unfortunately, however, I live in the middle of Butt Country!   Most of the butts at the grand BBQ joints around are simple affairs with added sauce.  Salt/Pepper and slap in the smoker until done.  Some cook higher and faster than others.  Generally served on a bun or on cornbread with some sweet tomato based sauce or some vinegary sauce.  It is amazing how little smoke flavor you sometimes get at these joints.  As for me, I'm from beef country, so don't have a history going back to my teens cooking pulled pork as I have with beef.  And for whatever reason, I never seem to get the judges what they want.  I think they like a sweeter treatment of pork than what I do.  I usually only apply salt and pepper just before putting in the smoker.  My wife is from West TN, so she grew up with pulled pork, and that's the way she wants it, and she wears the pants in my family!  I will however, pour as much smoke as I can on it.   The bark to meat ratio is quite small with a butt - so to make up for that, I want a good strong and smoky bark.  I've got another couple of ideas of how to serve pulled pork - but I have experiment a couple of times to see if they work. 
"A man that won't sleep with his meat don't care about his barbecue" Caneyscud



"If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?"

Rad Rich

Thank you for the swearing in.  I not only stepped on my left toe but I had my left hand on the bradley while I said the pledge aloud. When I was don I swear I saw a tear fill down the side of my lbs.  I have smoked four weekends in a row.  Gonna do some salmon this weekend.  It should take me all day.......   I'll be good and thirsty while I'm. Doing all the work staring at the smoke.
Smokin is only bad for you when you inhale.

KyNola

Quote from: Rad Rich on February 23, 2011, 05:31:03 PM
Thank you for the swearing in.  I not only stepped on my left toe but I had my left hand on the bradley while I said the pledge aloud. When I was don I swear I saw a tear fill down the side of my lbs.  I have smoked four weekends in a row.  Gonna do some salmon this weekend.  It should take me all day.......   I'll be good and thirsty while I'm. Doing all the work staring at the smoke.
Rich.......you are definitely one of us! :)

Caneyscud

oh, and it helps to keep a spray bottle full of water handy.  Not to put down blaze ups but to spray on your face and in your armpits just before the wife walks to where you are so it looks as if you're sweating profusely from the intense heat and unbearable exertion - sacrificing your comfort, forsaking pain - just to prepare some smoked goodies for her just because she is who she is!
"A man that won't sleep with his meat don't care about his barbecue" Caneyscud



"If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?"

Slamdunk

Thanks BLSH ! I'm going to give it a go when the weather up here warms up a bit.