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Offline cjj

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 12:53:57 PM »
THANKS FOR THE HELP HERE ARE SOME PICS OF MY MOD . I DID CHANGE THE WIRE TO # 12 HEAT RESISENT WIRE



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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2011, 02:11:30 PM »
Cjj nice job! But how come you got the element with the connections on the same side? The link I sent you was for the one with electrical connections on each side? Did you want that design? Or they send the wrong one?
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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2011, 02:35:43 PM »
THAT IS THE GRAINGER  ELEMENT  i DID NOT  GET THAT LINK  WOULD HVE BEEN A LITTLE EASER TO INSALL  IT WAS NOT THAT HARD TO INSTALL i JUST PULLED OFF THE BACK AND REPLACED THE WIRE WITH HEAVY GAUGE WIRE    GOING TO DO A PORK BUTT THIS  WEEKEND I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW IT TURNS OUT  THANKS AGAIN

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2011, 03:01:55 PM »
THAT IS THE GRAINGER  ELEMENT  i DID NOT  GET THAT LINK  WOULD HVE BEEN A LITTLE EASER TO INSALL  IT WAS NOT THAT HARD TO INSTALL i JUST PULLED OFF THE BACK AND REPLACED THE WIRE WITH HEAVY GAUGE WIRE    GOING TO DO A PORK BUTT THIS  WEEKEND I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW IT TURNS OUT  THANKS AGAIN

There are four different 900w finned elements available. Two are 120v and two are 240v. And you have the choice of one connection on each side or both connections on one side. For others who attempt this mod it is easier to use the one with connections on each side of the element. The one cjj installed will work but will be more difficult to install due to the connectors are on one side. The elements are the same in price.... just a different design.

Sorry cjj I thought I gave you the link for the right element when I sent you the PM
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OBS(Auberins dual probe PID, 900w finned element & convection fan mods)
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BBQ Grillware vertical smoker(oven thermostat installed & converted to natural gas)

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2011, 03:50:04 AM »
There are four different 900w finned elements available. Two are 120v and two are 240v. And you have the choice of one connection on each side or both connections on one side. For others who attempt this mod it is easier to use the one with connections on each side of the element. The one cjj installed will work but will be more difficult to install due to the connectors are on one side. The elements are the same in price.... just a different design

Is this the one you are talking about? http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=2xef3&op=search&Ntt=2xef3&N=0&sst=subset
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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2011, 07:09:55 AM »
There are four different 900w finned elements available. Two are 120v and two are 240v. And you have the choice of one connection on each side or both connections on one side. For others who attempt this mod it is easier to use the one with connections on each side of the element. The one cjj installed will work but will be more difficult to install due to the connectors are on one side. The elements are the same in price.... just a different design

Is this the one you are talking about? http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=2xef3&op=search&Ntt=2xef3&N=0&sst=subset

I have the 2XEF3 model (connections on each side) that the link points to in a box right now waiting installation.  What did you use to mount the 900 watt element cjj?  Muebe used brackets for drapes.  Looking at the photo cjj it looks like you have long bolts acting as mounting posts!?

Please explain.  Thanks
 
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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2011, 07:12:47 AM »
There are four different 900w finned elements available. Two are 120v and two are 240v. And you have the choice of one connection on each side or both connections on one side. For others who attempt this mod it is easier to use the one with connections on each side of the element. The one cjj installed will work but will be more difficult to install due to the connectors are on one side. The elements are the same in price.... just a different design

Is this the one you are talking about? http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=2xef3&op=search&Ntt=2xef3&N=0&sst=subset

Yes that is the one...
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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2011, 12:23:42 PM »
I CUT A PIECE OF ALUMIUN TO FIT THE BOLT PATTERN OF THE PORCLIN I PUT THAT BETWEEN THE 2 PIECES OF PORCILIN  AND THEN MOUNTED IT TO THE ELEMENT WITH THE BOLT YOU SEE

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2011, 02:51:51 PM »
I CUT A PIECE OF ALUMIUN TO FIT THE BOLT PATTERN OF THE PORCLIN I PUT THAT BETWEEN THE 2 PIECES OF PORCILIN  AND THEN MOUNTED IT TO THE ELEMENT WITH THE BOLT YOU SEE

Great idea.

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2011, 08:09:58 AM »
Is it necessary to have a switch, on the second element.  It seems to me that if you are using a pid, which you recommend with a second element.  If you switch the second element off than your paramaters on the pid or not set correctly.

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 09:42:23 AM »
Is it necessary to have a switch, on the second element. 

No.  I have dual elemnts on my OBS and no switch for the second one.  Everything is controlled by the PID.

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 11:58:47 AM »
Thank's TedEbear.  I think that's the way I am going to hook up my 2nd element.  Just waiting for part's.  How long have you been using your 2 element's.

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 12:58:34 PM »
Is it necessary to have a switch, on the second element.  It seems to me that if you are using a pid, which you recommend with a second element.  If you switch the second element off than your paramaters on the pid or not set correctly.

It is not necessary, but it comes in handy. For example, one member's PID failed, so it was just a matter of flipping the switch to turn off the second element and using the smoker as origianally designed.

I've been using my dual element hookup for more then 2 years. I came up with the idea of adding the switch, because I keep my smoker outside 24 seven. Each time I wanted to use a temperature control device, I would have to hook it up. There are several things I smoke/cook that I don't need my temperature control device. During those smokes, I just turn off the second element, and I don't have to hook up the controller.


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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 02:19:28 PM »
Thank's Habanero those are some good points.

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Re: 2nd element or the 900 watt single
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 10:11:56 PM »
Can you add a 900watt element to a BDS without adding a PID or is the PID still necessary. I am not really interested in adding a PID. (atleast not yet)