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Offline msiler

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Temp control plans
« on: May 19, 2004, 03:50:05 am »
I figured that this may fit here a bit better now.

Ok I am ready to call testing complete and share plans...
Sorry it took so long folks.

It does seem to have extended my cook time somewhat.... Probably due to better control ie. no overtemp excursions etc.In order to help with extended times etc.   I use a foil cake pan for water since it holds more and will not dry out as fast.

The way I have wired it there are no modifications to the smoker just plug it in between the smoke generator and the main box and run the probe in through the vent and hang with some stainless wire. I looped the extra capillary tube and stored it under the back cover.

I also limited travel of the temp knob on mine as to not be able to accidently overtemp, I did this with a small pin drilled into the knob and another into the face of the box.

If you do not feel up to this task and still want one let me know and I will see what I can do to help.


Parts required:

1 Oven thermostat Part No. RS-5430-175 ($62.65 at Partsguy.com)
1 computer cord make sure it's same gauge or heavier than smoker cord
1 box at least 3x3x2 internal dimensions
solder and heat shrink

Here is the wiring diagram




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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 01:30:04 am »
Martin,

Help out us "electrically-challenged" folks please. (Or maybe I'm the only one as no one else has posted.) What does L1, L2, 1, 2, 3, & 4 refer to? Hey, at least I knew what Black, White & Green were![:D]

Also, what was your reasoning in limiting the travel of the temp slider? I would think, and I've already pronounced my illiteracy in this area, that you would want to turn it up as high as possible & let the thermostat regulate it down when necessary.

Thanks for sharing your research.[:)]

Kirk

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2004, 02:09:54 am »
I agree, this is where this thread belongs. So that we are not carrying on 2 sets of conversations, I shut down the other thread. To view previous commentary, go to http://www.bradleysmoker.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=197


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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2004, 02:28:51 am »
L1,L2 etc... That is how the terminals are labeled on the controller.

I limited the travel on the temp knob not the slider. The thermstat has capability of controlling ovens up to 500 degrees. As I recall the bradley book has a caution about not exceeding 300 or 350 degrees to avoid damaging the unit (probably the door seal).

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 02:35:17 am »
Martin I have all the required parts, but am having a bit of a time figuring out the wiring, I plan to cut the cord to my hotplate ( I have a smoke generator )and wire it to the thermostat any suggestions?
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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 03:01:17 am »
If you know what pins are what, it should be a fairly simple task. The accepted practice is to always switch the power input (Black wire in 120V household wiring)If you want an easy way wire up using a heavy 4-6 foot extension cord, this will make sure the wires are the proper colors. If cut into the cord on the hotplate it may not be color coded. If you have the diagrams that came with the thermostat and can't figure them out scan them email to me and I will try to help.

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 03:55:17 am »
Ten hut, colonel![:D]

Congrats![8D]

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2004, 02:37:30 am »
Martin You da man!!
I will scan and email the schematic before weeks end.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2004, 03:54:57 am »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by msiler</i>
<br />As I recall the bradley book has a caution about not exceeding 300 or 350 degrees to avoid damaging the unit (probably the door seal).
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As well as the insulation (foam).

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2004, 11:22:40 pm »
Crap if it is not business, it is all these Pros E-mailing me about these "funny" Pineapples....now msiler comes up with a better than super glue plan that I just don't understand...Crap-O-La~~!

Ok msiler would you, once you feel it is all together and well tested,  consider selling me one of those? I would expect you to make a profit. Believe me I make a profit on my work. What do ya say....help an oldman get across the street?

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Offline msiler

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2004, 04:14:35 am »
Hey Olds,

Testing is complete and i have been running it for about 2 months of steady weekend smokes.

I would consider putting one together for you. I am not in a position to offer warranty etc... So you would have to assume any liability for it's use.
I know that it works and in my opinion works very well. I just need to make sure that we are on the same page.

That being said.
My cost for parts comes to $75 after tax and shipping is $5-$6
How would $90 sound total delivered?
Let me know what you think.

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2004, 05:38:38 am »
Martin,

I too would be interested, $90 sounds fine, & I agree to the legal crap. It's a shame our world has come to the point where this would even be a concern.[:(]

Smokin' buddies should be able to help each other out. People need to take responsibility for themselves again, not rely on shamans to magically lift them into the world of luxury.

Email me the send-to-info & we'll get a check out.

Kirk

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2004, 03:08:52 pm »
Hello Martin,

I am a newbie owner in California. Have been lurking in the background for several weeks, and now have a stainless model on the way to me.  Your thermostatic control looks like the missing item that to me fills the void in controlling the BS.   I would like to purchase one of your controllers for my new smoker.  

If you are ready to make us happy with your prototype, I certainly want to get in the line to get one.  I, of course, release you from all responsibility should any unforseen accident or unit failure result from the use of the controller.

Would you accept Paypal as a payment option?

I might even take it apart and put it in a stainless box to match my unit, unless you plan on also producing in SS??

Let me know when you are ready and will get the payment to you in any form that works for you.

Bill M  &lt;nsxbill@yahoo.com&gt;
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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2004, 07:45:13 pm »
M Siler

Not getting back to me, did a visit to Partsguy.com, and using the number for the part you posted up, got no hits.  What is the SKU or the actual part name and number.  The reference RS-5430-175 gave no return for oven thermostat.

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Re: Temp control plans
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2004, 08:17:33 pm »
msiler,

Partsguy.com now has this item listed at $164.49. I found it using a partial part number (5430-175). Is this the correct item?

Thx
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