Thanks Viper125. I am about to buy this grinder but got nervous that every rating on Amazon was way high. Hard to believe, so I sent the message you replied to. I am going to buy a separate stuffer, either a manual or a Kirby cannon. Kirby is sending me info on his stuffer and I will decide thereafter. I really appreciate all the help from you and others. I promise pics on my first try for Bradley deer smokies in a couple of weeks. Got to get the grinder, stuffer and the like first. My 1st product with the Bradley was whole muscle deer jerkey. Turned out great, like Oberta Hickory beef jerkey except less sweet and more smokey - YUM.