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Offline Tommyboy

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Auber pid controller
« on: December 26, 2019, 05:12:50 PM »
Hey guys, total rookie here. I have recently purchased the original Bradley smoker and have only used it once. I decided to buy the Auber pid and have received it but have not set it up yet. I’m somewhat clear on how it works but I’m wondering where I set the temperature on the Bradley temperature control. I have read the directions for the Auber but it does not mention anything about it. The OBS only has the high, medium, low option. Do I just set it on high and let the PID do the work or does it even matter where I set the temperature. May be a dumb question, but any input would be much appreciated. Thanks guys.

Offline dubob

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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2019, 05:43:42 PM »
Doesn't matter where you set it.  It is no longer in the circuit to control the heating element.  The PID does all the controlling.   8)
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Offline TNRockyraccoon

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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2020, 04:15:53 PM »
I always figured that I should set the unit on the smoke generator to high position because that would allow full power flow going to the PID.

I thought it probably controlled the temperature by letting percentages of power to the element, therefore....if my temp setting was at low, a smaller amount of juice was going from the smoke generator to the element.

All my thinking could be way out of left field on this.

Offline dubob

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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2020, 07:30:52 PM »
As I said before, it doesn't matter where you set it.  It is completely removed from the circuit and does not control the current going to the heating element in any way, shape or form.  The heating element gets its power (current) from the PID and the original control will not control anything.
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Offline manxman

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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2020, 01:25:32 AM »
As dubob says, personally because it is not in use I leave the Bradley heat element control set to off / zero when using the PID purely because that is how my mind works, somehow seems more logical Mr Spock!  :)
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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2020, 02:56:15 AM »
That is definitely true for the later models. If you have the Old Original Black Bradley (BTIS1), - which I believe TNRockyraccoon has; and you haven't by past the temperature control slider you need to keep the temperature to maximum for the PID to utilize all 500 watts of that element.

I still have and occasionally will use my Old Original Black Bradley. I've done the dual element mod on mine, and didn't by pass the controller. If I slide the controller to the far left "off", no current will flow, or very little will trickle to that  one element that is still connected to the slide controller. If I slide it halfway, then the PID can only utilize that element to approximately 50% of the element's full power.


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Offline dubob

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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2020, 05:17:00 AM »
I stand corrected 'Hab'.   :)

My Bradley is a digital purchased around 2008 or so.  I bought the PID in 2011 after hearing about it on this forum.  I just re-read the installation instructions for the PID and see now that there are a couple of ways to set up the connections and the Bradley controller can be supplying the heater power in certain setups.  Mine does not because of the way I set it up.  So, it is possible that 'TNR's' setup will require that he have his slider set to the max ON position at all times when he is using the smoker.

Apologies for misleading anybody if that be the case. 
Bob Hicks, from Utah
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Offline manxman

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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 05:37:05 AM »
Thanks for the reminder Habs, I was completely forgetting that my old Original Stainless Steel model with the slider had different requirements... should have kept my mouth shut!  ::).
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Re: Auber pid controller
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 01:12:20 PM »
Both of you are right. It's just easy to forget about that old technology. :) I'm not sure if there are many owners of the Old Bradley Smoker that are still out there.


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