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Offline Mr Walleye

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2008, 04:19:47 pm »
Milehi

Sounds like you have it pretty close.

With your current settings, you could step through them and write them all down so that you can return to these settings manually. This way you could try an auto tune if you wanted.

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2008, 11:32:33 am »
Here is a link to yet another PID available on ebay.  this one says it is ideal for cold smoking.   Temps can be set from -30F - 220F.  This one runs $99.99 plus shipping. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ranco-ETC-PreWired-Bradley-Smoker-Temperature-Control_W0QQitemZ280225761730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Offline matwell

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2008, 01:16:07 pm »
Hey Guys
I just got my PID from Auber Instruments and I was wondering has anyone tested it on the DBS and if so where do you plug it in. I hope this is not a dumb question but I am not mechanically inclined. If anyone can fill me in on the connection layout it would be greatly appreciated. Which plug with the Bradley would I be eliminating? I am assuming it would be connection 2 according to the Bradley manual.

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2008, 08:31:30 pm »
I wonder if this is a true PID or some other type of controller?

Here is a link to yet another PID available on ebay.  this one says it is ideal for cold smoking.   Temps can be set from -30F - 220F.  This one runs $99.99 plus shipping. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ranco-ETC-PreWired-Bradley-Smoker-Temperature-Control_W0QQitemZ280225761730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2008, 08:58:48 pm »
Matwell

On you DBS you have a short power cord running from your generator to your tower. You basically remove this cord. The PID is plugged directly into the wall outlet (the generator power cord is also plugged into the wall outlet), then the tower is plugged into the PID. Hopefully I didn't confuse you.

Mike

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You are right. I just checked the manual on the Bradley site and it is labeled #2. You want to take the power from the wall outlet through the PID, then into the tower. Nothing would be plugged into the generator side of the #2 cord.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2008, 09:06:32 pm by Mr Walleye »

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2008, 09:20:44 am »
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Here is a link to yet another PID available on ebay.  this one says it is ideal for cold smoking.   Temps can be set from -30F - 220F.  This one runs $99.99 plus shipping. 

I am a newbie here and will soon be getting my own OBS. I have been doing a lot of research and it looks like this does not use the PID set-up. As I said I don't have a Bradley Smoker yet but I am thinking that this controller would not be much different then the DBS as it does not seem to use the PID program.

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2008, 02:26:36 pm »
I wonder if this is a true PID or some other type of controller?

Here is a link to yet another PID available on ebay.  this one says it is ideal for cold smoking.   Temps can be set from -30F - 220F.  This one runs $99.99 plus shipping. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ranco-ETC-PreWired-Bradley-Smoker-Temperature-Control_W0QQitemZ280225761730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I use the ranco etc to control my smoker.
you can even use it as an internal meat probe.

The sensor is electronic not capillary.... so it is very flexible and versatile.


I have mine wired to shut the smoker off when the desired internal temp of the meat or sausage is reached. 


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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2008, 04:15:51 pm »
All I can say is WOW...I had enough trouble putting together my PID   :o  Thats quite impressive!!
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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2008, 05:30:25 pm »
walleye

Thanks for the info. I ordered a flat cut brisket today from my butcher and have plans to smoke it this weekend. My new gadget will be put to good use. Wish me luck!

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2008, 09:19:13 pm »
Good luck Matwell!

Have fun and maybe even a couple of "sodas" as well!  ;)


Hi TBS and welcome to the forum. You did a great job on your smoker!  8)

Did you build the cabinet from scratch or was that a food warmer cart? I'm also curious what you are using for a heat source?

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2008, 11:21:13 pm »

Have fun and maybe even a couple of "sodas" as well!  ;)


Hi TBS and welcome to the forum. You did a great job on your smoker!  8)

Did you build the cabinet from scratch or was that a food warmer cart? I'm also curious what you are using for a heat source?

Mike
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Thanks Mr Walleye

The cabinet is actualy a used industrial blast freezer that I scooped from a bakery that went banko.   The best thing about this setup is that it has a recirculating fan that keeps every square inch of this (bad ass Bradley) evenly heated and smoked. It holds 50lbs of Jerky or 100lbs of whole hams or 200 llbs sausage.

You could hang a whole pig inside and smoke it.

here is a pic of seven Pork Butts (cottage hams) I did the other day



It is so efficient it uses 1X1000watt hotplate for heat. 
and Bradley digital generator for smoke

It will smoke 100lbs of bacon in 8 hours

To get back on topic...... The PID refered to in previous posts uses a capilary tube.. One kink in the line and good bye PID

The Ranco ETC on the other hand uses a waterproof Thermister (sensor) on an eight foot flexilbe wire.
You can find them on ebay

I got mine from this Bradley Dealer

 http://cgi.ebay.com/Ranco-ETC-PreWired-Bradley-Smoker-Temperature-Control_W0QQitemZ280225761730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2008, 07:01:07 am »
That is much more than I will ever need, but I am very impressed.  Nice job.
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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2008, 08:34:58 am »
Very impressive TBS!

I love you capacity for sausage!  ;)

I want to build something larger at some point but I have haven't came across a cabinet to use as of yet. Sooner or later I will, or build it from scratch.

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2008, 09:22:58 pm »
T B S,

Torture is prohibited on the boards here.....   :D

Great stuff!!!

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Re: New PID on the Market- Plug and Play
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2008, 09:49:37 pm »
Here is a link to yet another PID available on ebay.  this one says it is ideal for cold smoking.   Temps can be set from -30F - 220F.  This one runs $99.99 plus shipping. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ranco-ETC-PreWired-Bradley-Smoker-Temperature-Control_W0QQitemZ280225761730QQihZ018QQcategoryZ20723QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ranco ETC is not a PID controller. It is a on/off controller that is basiclly the same as the Bradley Digital controller. Here is the data sheet
http://www.rancoetc.com/pdf/ranco_etc.pdf