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Title: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
I have a BDS6.  The generator blew a fuse and has repeatedly blown replacement fuses.  I've tried four 10 amp/250v fuses from Radio Shack.  It blows the fuse almost immediately when I turn the smoke generator on.  Any ideas on the cause.

Thanks

T3PS
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: GusRobin on October 31, 2010, 12:05:20 PM
Are you sure it is not the outlet or extension cord (if using one). Did you add the second element - a friend started blowing fuses when he miswired the connections when installing the elelment --(ok ok I miswired it when I was helping him)
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on October 31, 2010, 01:08:03 PM
If you turn the generator on without the cord to the cabinet connected, does it blow the fuse?  If not then the problem may be in the heating element circuit / wiring.  If it still blows then I would suspect a short inside the SG itself - maybe a loose wire inside.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: classicrockgriller on October 31, 2010, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 11:13:57 AM
I have a BDS6.  The generator blew a fuse and has repeatedly blown replacement fuses.  I've tried four 10 amp/250v fuses from Radio Shack.  It blows the fuse almost immediately when I turn the smoke generator on.  Any ideas on the cause.

Thanks

T3PS

I am not an electrician, but I tought the basic rule is that the fuse rated at 250/10 amps will give you

5 amps at 125. I thought that sounded low, so I looked at mine and it is 16 amps at 250.

Hope this helps ..... but you may have a loose wire.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 01:56:30 PM
Hi CRG (and everyone else)

Thanks. Plugged the generator only into outlet w/o extension cord.  Blew the fuse immediately.

CRG, the issue arose a few weeks ago during a long smoke of four butts.  It happened in the middle of the night, but that's another story.  I spoke to a Bradley rep and he said they use 10 amp fuses. And try a new fuse first. So I got those from radio shack.  Are you saying I could use 16 at 250 w/o harming the generator?  I'm guessing there is something going on with the generator as well.  Weird it was working just fine until a few weeks ago.

Thoughts?  Thanks

T3Ps
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 31, 2010, 02:00:35 PM
Another possibility; stuff can build up around connectors and cause a short. The generator may be do for a good cleaning.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: classicrockgriller on October 31, 2010, 02:10:34 PM
Quote from: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 01:56:30 PM
Hi CRG (and everyone else)

Thanks. Plugged the generator only into outlet w/o extension cord.  Blew the fuse immediately.

CRG, the issue arose a few weeks ago during a long smoke of four butts.  It happened in the middle of the night, but that's another story.  I spoke to a Bradley rep and he said they use 10 amp fuses. And try a new fuse first. So I got those from radio shack.  Are you saying I could use 16 at 250 w/o harming the generator?  I'm guessing there is something going on with the generator as well.  Weird it was working just fine until a few weeks ago.

Thoughts?  Thanks

T3Ps

T3ps, I gave you some wrong info. I checked again (With my glasses on ;D) and the factory fuse is a 10 amp/250 vt.

Hope it didn't make you run to radio shack and get new size fuse.

Just sounds like a wire is loose or dirty in the generator.

Turn the gen upside down and remove the OUTER screws only! (Not the middle screws)

It comes apart like a clam shell. Check your connections.

Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on October 31, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
Okay, your test suggests it's in the SG itself.  I'd open it and give it a good cleaning as HabS suggests, then check all the connections.  There;s a good write-up on the Recipe site in the FAQ secion on how to open and clean the smoke generator here (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?488-Answers-To-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=987#post987).

Like CRG, I'm no electrician but I thought fuses were power related.  If that's the case wouldn't 10A @ 250 be 20A at 125 ?
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: classicrockgriller on October 31, 2010, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: BuyLowSellHigh on October 31, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
Okay, your test suggests it's in the SG itself.  I'd open it and give it a good cleaning as HabS suggests, then check all the connections.  There;s a good write-up on the Recipe site in the FAQ secion on how to open and clean the smoke generator here (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?488-Answers-To-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=987#post987).

Like CRG, I'm no electrician but I thought fuses were power related.  If that's the case wouldn't 10A @ 250 be 20A at 125 ?

Told you I was no electrician. ;D Thought it went the other way.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
Gosh you guys are going to make me work on a Sunday afternoon.  I'm lounging on the couch watching football.  Okay I'll open up the bad boy and give him a scrubbing.  Thanks
everyone.  Will see what happens.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on October 31, 2010, 02:37:26 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 31, 2010, 02:18:40 PM

Like CRG, I'm no electrician but I thought fuses were power related.  If that's the case wouldn't 10A @ 250 be 20A at 125 ?

Told you I was no electrician. ;D Thought it went the other way.

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Me neither.  Famous last words ... we can't both be wrong, can we?      ;D
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
Okay so I got up off the couch and opened up the generator.  Other than some stray wood chips it wasn't too dirty.  I noticed no loose wires.  I checked all connections and gave the insides a quick cleaning.  Still blew a fuse.  Bummer.  I'll give Bradley a call tomorrow.

Thanks all for the help.

T3Ps
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Quarlow on October 31, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
Well don't feel bad. My SG has worked flawless since I got it. Then I started using my bubba pucks (only 2) and it wouldn't cycle the pucks threw. Luckily I have a spare SG. I have it apart and can see nothing wrong so I will be drilling out my Bubba pucks to lighten them.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on October 31, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
Quote from: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
Okay so I got up off the couch and opened up the generator.  Other than some stray wood chips it wasn't too dirty.  I noticed no loose wires.  I checked all connections and gave the insides a quick cleaning.  Still blew a fuse.  Bummer.  I'll give Bradley a call tomorrow.

Thanks all for the help.

T3Ps

Hi T3ps

Give this a try, open the generator back up then unplug the bisquette burner connection
put another fuse in and turn the smoke generator on if it doesnt blow the fuse your problem is in the bisquette burner.

the fuse is a 10 amp 250V

Brian
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on November 01, 2010, 06:33:27 AM
Brian

Thank you.  I just spoke to Frank and he is sending me a new burner.  Thank you! 

Great customer service from Bradley.  I love you guys.  I wish other businesses were as good as you guys.

Thanks

Tommy3Putts
Arlington VA.





Quote from: Bradley (Head Office) on October 31, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
Quote from: Tommy3Putts on October 31, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
Okay so I got up off the couch and opened up the generator.  Other than some stray wood chips it wasn't too dirty.  I noticed no loose wires.  I checked all connections and gave the insides a quick cleaning.  Still blew a fuse.  Bummer.  I'll give Bradley a call tomorrow.

Thanks all for the help.

T3Ps

Hi T3ps

Give this a try, open the generator back up then unplug the bisquette burner connection
put another fuse in and turn the smoke generator on if it doesnt blow the fuse your problem is in the bisquette burner.

the fuse is a 10 amp 250V

Brian

Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on November 01, 2010, 08:01:38 PM
QuoteBrian

Thank you.  I just spoke to Frank and he is sending me a new burner.  Thank you! 

Great customer service from Bradley.  I love you guys.  I wish other businesses were as good as you guys.

Thanks

Tommy3Putts
Arlington VA.


Your Welcome

Let us know if that solves the problem.

Brian
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on November 05, 2010, 06:27:24 PM
The replacement burner arrived from Bradley yesterday.  Fairly straightforward and easy to switch out this afternoon.  It looks like that is the fix. I plugged the smoke generator in and it stayed on with no fuse blown and the burner started heating up.  We'll see how it goes tomorrow.  Having guests over for cold smoked Rib-eye steaks and a few adult beverages.  We'll see how it goes.

Thanks Bradley!!!

T3Ps.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on November 06, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
Your Welcome

Glad to hear your back up and smokin

Brian.
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on November 07, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
Bradley worked like a charm last night.  Cold smoked ribeyes and a prime rib roast.  The generator and the oven both worked fine.

Thanks Bradley for the great service.


T3Ps
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: smoker pete on November 07, 2010, 07:16:57 PM
T3Ps - Hope your name 'Tommy3Putts' is not a reflection of your game!!  Being an avid Duffer myself (present index is 14.5) there is nothing I hate more in the world than a 3 putt  >:( :-[  I'll take a quazillion bogey over a 3 putt any day  :'(

Sounds like you did a great job on those ribeyes and the prime rib.  Next time we need photos!!
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on November 08, 2010, 07:40:09 AM
Hi Smoker Pete

Yes, T3Ps is my golf mafia name given to me by the members of my weekend foursome.  Let's just say that my short game is not the strongest part of my game.  Especially recently.  As a matter of fact I had a four putt for a double bogey yesterday!  Frustrating.


T3Ps

Quote from: smoker pete on November 07, 2010, 07:16:57 PM
T3Ps - Hope your name 'Tommy3Putts' is not a reflection of your game!!  Being an avid Duffer myself (present index is 14.5) there is nothing I hate more in the world than a 3 putt  >:( :-[  I'll take a quazillion bogey over a 3 putt any day  :'(

Sounds like you did a great job on those ribeyes and the prime rib.  Next time we need photos!!
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: smoker pete on November 08, 2010, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: Tommy3Putts on November 08, 2010, 07:40:09 AM
Hi Smoker Pete

Yes, T3Ps is my golf mafia name given to me by the members of my weekend foursome.  Let's just say that my short game is not the strongest part of my game.  Especially recently.  As a matter of fact I had a four putt for a double bogey yesterday!  Frustrating.


T3Ps

Quote from: smoker pete on November 07, 2010, 07:16:57 PM
T3Ps - Hope your name 'Tommy3Putts' is not a reflection of your game!!  Being an avid Duffer myself (present index is 14.5) there is nothing I hate more in the world than a 3 putt  >:( :-[  I'll take a quazillion bogey over a 3 putt any day  :'(

Sounds like you did a great job on those ribeyes and the prime rib.  Next time we need photos!!

You know what they say ... "You drive for show ... and you putt for dough"!!  Golf can be the most frustrating game in the world but it's so much fun  ;D :'( :-\ :P :D >:(
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 09, 2010, 05:45:22 AM
Back in my Younger days when I had a limber back, I was on a 366 yd par 4 with a STIFF wind to my

back and caught every bit of the ball with a Tiger like drive and ended pin high and 18 feet away from

cup. 5 putts later I had a double bogey. I never did go get that puter out of that pond. ;D

Tommy, glad to see you back in the smoking game and hope you stay par and smoke a lot!
Title: Re: Generator blowing fuses
Post by: Tommy3Putts on November 09, 2010, 05:17:25 PM
Thanks CRG.  Summer's over and weather is getting less reliable so I'll be using the Bradley more.

Last year in a golf tournament in Mexico, I missed a three inch tap in put for par.....I ain't kidding