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Bradley Smokers => Smoke Generator with Adaptor (BTSG1) => Topic started by: georgeamer on August 29, 2009, 06:22:34 AM

Title: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: georgeamer on August 29, 2009, 06:22:34 AM
Where can I get a longer power cord for my Bradley smokebox?
With the cold smoke adapter installed, the supplied power cord will not reach the smokebox..
George
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on August 29, 2009, 06:34:17 AM
You can find that cord at any computer supply store. I recommend that you take what is supplied with the smoker and make sure they give you a similar but longer one.

You know I believe that Bradley has intentionally made a short cord between the smoke generator and the tower. When you install the Cold smoke box, you are supposed to disconnected the tower from the generator anyway to prevent it from turning the tower heat on accidentally. However, the sensor wire that runs between the two is also too short and the smoke generator will show an E 1 fault and would not come on if the sensor is disconnected. If you connect the cold smoke box to the tower, you would have to maneuver it side ways so that you keep the sensor wire connected.


HR
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: KyNola on August 29, 2009, 07:30:16 AM
H R,
The cold smoke adapter comes with a plug that goes in the smoke generator in place of the sensor connector cord so that the smoke generator operates normally with no E1 error showing so there is no reason to have to set the cold smoke adapter sideways.

KyNola
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on August 29, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
Hello George

Unfortunately Bradley does not make a longer jumper cord or a longer sensor cable (for digital smokers) to connect the generator to the tower when the cold smoke
box is being used.

As HR has stated you should be able to find it at a computer supply store or do a search online.

Here are the types of plugs they are this will help in your search
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f171/1smokie43/Cold%20Smoke%20Box/JumperCord.jpg)

Brian
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: BigJohnT on August 29, 2009, 10:51:45 AM
You can order  3'3" one from McMaster-Carr.

http://www.mcmaster.com/

Part Number 71535K59

John
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on August 29, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: KyNola on August 29, 2009, 07:30:16 AM
H R,
The cold smoke adapter comes with a plug that goes in the smoke generator in place of the sensor connector cord so that the smoke generator operates normally with no E1 error showing so there is no reason to have to set the cold smoke adapter sideways.

KyNola

Ky,

strike this for old age or poor eye sight but I have looked at my cold smoke adaptor; front and back, up and down and sideways and could not find a sensor plug on the adaptor. Can you a bit more specific.


HR
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: georgeamer on August 29, 2009, 01:55:15 PM
Thanks for the help.....here it is ai Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Power-60320-Connector-Black-H05VV-F3G1-0/dp/B000JCPB4Y
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Habanero Smoker on August 29, 2009, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on August 29, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: KyNola on August 29, 2009, 07:30:16 AM
H R,
The cold smoke adapter comes with a plug that goes in the smoke generator in place of the sensor connector cord so that the smoke generator operates normally with no E1 error showing so there is no reason to have to set the cold smoke adapter sideways.

KyNola

Ky,

strike this for old age or poor eye sight but I have looked at my cold smoke adaptor; front and back, up and down and sideways and could not find a sensor plug on the adaptor. Can you a bit more specific.


HR

The sensor plug that KyNola is referring to is for the digital models, that sensor plug needs to be plugged into the back of the digital generator. When you purchase the cold smoke adaptor from Bradley they include that with the purchase.
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on August 29, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
Habs,

I am sorry for being so ignorant but I could not find any place where the sensor would plug into my cold smoke adaptor. Aside from some rivets and screws there is nothing there.

Please elaborate.

HR
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: FLBentRider on August 29, 2009, 02:51:43 PM
I think that there is a plug that you put in the digital generator to make it think it is still attached to the tower.

I have an OBS, so am just guessing...
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on August 29, 2009, 09:17:36 PM
Hi HR

The cold smoke box comes with a bypass plug its a small plug that you plug into the digital generator to fool the unit into thinking it is plugged into the tower.

Brian
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Habanero Smoker on August 30, 2009, 01:48:00 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on August 29, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
Habs,

I am sorry for being so ignorant but I could not find any place where the sensor would plug into my cold smoke adaptor. Aside from some rivets and screws there is nothing there.

Please elaborate.

HR

No problem, you miss what I said in my post "The sensor plug that KyNola is referring to is for the digital models, that sensor plug needs to be plugged into the back of the digital generator."
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: KyNola on August 30, 2009, 07:26:51 AM
H R,
What they all said. :D

KyNola
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on August 30, 2009, 03:05:56 PM
Hi there guys,

I have the 6 rack BDS. My understanding is when I install the cold smoker adaptor, I have to unplug the sensor cable from the back of the tower, keep it plugged into the smoke generator an then plug it into the cold smoke adaptor to fool the smoke generator. So far so good Right?

The problem that I have is there is no place on the adaptor to plug the sensor cable. Any suggestions?

HR
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on August 30, 2009, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on August 30, 2009, 03:05:56 PM
Hi there guys,

I have the 6 rack BDS. My understanding is when I install the cold smoker adaptor, I have to unplug the sensor cable from the back of the tower, keep it plugged into the smoke generator an then plug it into the cold smoke adaptor to fool the smoke generator. So far so good Right?

The problem that I have is there is no place on the adaptor to plug the sensor cable. Any suggestions?

HR

Hey HR, if I'm not mistaken, a dummy plug should have come with the cold smoke adapter. And that should plug into the smoke generator to fool it into thinking the sensor cable is being used. Here's a couple links with some info.
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=9992.0
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=9164.0
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on August 30, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
Hi

Here is what you should do when installing the cold smoke box on a digital smoker.

First remove the Generator from the tower and connect your cold smoke box to the tower
then place your digital generator in the hole in the cold smoke box
Like this picture
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f171/1smokie43/Digital%20Generator/ColdSmokeBoxDiagram.jpg)
With your cold smoke box you should have got a small bypass plug that looks like this.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f171/1smokie43/Digital%20Generator/IMG_0145.jpg)
This bypass plug gets plugged into the digital generator (remove the sensor cable) and put the bypass plug in this hole.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f171/1smokie43/Digital%20Generator/IMG_0232Copy.jpg)

I hope this clarifies the problem
Brian
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: KyNola on August 31, 2009, 06:43:43 AM
H R,
To add to what Brian has just shown you, the sensor cable remains disconnected when using the cold smoke adapter.

KyNola
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on August 31, 2009, 10:45:58 AM
Thanks to all you guys who helped out in the matter of the bypass. But here is my dilemma:

I did not receive such a plug with the cold smoke adaptor and here in Jordan we do not have a Radio shack to by it from. So Brian I am willing to buy it from Bradley if you say it is possible and you do not have to ship it all the way here. You would have to ship it to my forwarder in NY state and they will do the rest. Just let me know and I will process the payment immediately.

As I have mentioned in a different thread, I am designing my own Bradley cabinet (emulating I believe Nepas) and would like to have the CS adaptor installed permanently in addition to the PID which is due to arrive on Wednesday Sept. 2ND and I would like to keep it all neat that way. So Brian I would appreciate it if you expedite your answer.

HR
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Mr Walleye on August 31, 2009, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on August 31, 2009, 10:45:58 AM
Thanks to all you guys who helped out in the matter of the bypass. But here is my dilemma:

I did not receive such a plug with the cold smoke adaptor and here in Jordan we do not have a Radio shack to by it from. So Brian I am willing to buy it from Bradley if you say it is possible and you do not have to ship it all the way here. You would have to ship it to my forwarder in NY state and they will do the rest. Just let me know and I will process the payment immediately.

As I have mentioned in a different thread, I am designing my own Bradley cabinet (emulating I believe Nepas) and would like to have the CS adaptor installed permanently in addition to the PID which is due to arrive on Wednesday Sept. 2ND and I would like to keep it all neat that way. So Brian I would appreciate it if you expedite your answer.

HR

HR

Just to add to the confusion....

When you use the bypass plug the smoke generator shows a fixed temperature. I believe around 70 degrees. The bypass plug is just a way of fooling the smoke generator as it won't run with out this wire connected.

I have mine in a permanent cold smoke setup as well. What I did was cut the factory sensor wire in half and add enough wire into it to get the job done. This way the smoke generator still displays the tower temp.

The wire is not anything special... I think I used speaker wire if I remember correctly.

Just a thought...

Mike
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: BigJohnT on August 31, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
Mike, it should be type K thermocouple wire I assume but it might be J. You can tell by the wire colors. I'm not sure how much the reading gets changed by not using the proper wire. But at each dissimilar wire junction it will change the Millivolt signal a bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple

http://www.omega.com/prodinfo/thermocouplewire.html

John
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Mr Walleye on August 31, 2009, 12:04:53 PM
Hi John

The DBS uses a Thermistor instead of a thermocouple and is why you can just cut the cable and add in wire to lengthen it. Here is a link to a discussion we had on it a while back. I made a couple of the dummy plugs and they worked fine.

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=9164.msg97088#msg97088

Mike
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Hopefull Romantic on August 31, 2009, 01:49:08 PM
I appreciate all your inputs specially that of Mike and I promise if all else fails, I will use your advise.


HR
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: BigJohnT on August 31, 2009, 03:13:56 PM
Hi Mike,

I love thermistors... I guess I had thermocouples on my mind after just wiring up a couple  ;D

I made a remote sensing controller with one for $20

http://suburb.semo.net/jet1024/Controller.htm

John
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Mr Walleye on August 31, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
Nice job John!

That's a slick little mod!

Mike
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: BigJohnT on August 31, 2009, 04:32:25 PM
Thanks Mike

John
Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on August 31, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on August 31, 2009, 10:45:58 AM
Thanks to all you guys who helped out in the matter of the bypass. But here is my dilemma:

I did not receive such a plug with the cold smoke adaptor and here in Jordan we do not have a Radio shack to by it from. So Brian I am willing to buy it from Bradley if you say it is possible and you do not have to ship it all the way here. You would have to ship it to my forwarder in NY state and they will do the rest. Just let me know and I will process the payment immediately.


HR


Hi HR

Just PM or E-mail me the address and contact information in NY and i will send one there at no cost to you I will even toss in a extra sensor cable in case you want to cut it inhalf and make it longer.

Brian

Title: Re: Extenttion cord for adaptor
Post by: KyNola on August 31, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
And once again Brian illustrates why we all love the Bradley people.  Nice going Brian! ;)

KyNola