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Smoking Techniques => Cold Smoking => Topic started by: West Coast Kansan on November 12, 2006, 08:22:46 PM

Title: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 12, 2006, 08:22:46 PM
The following parts can be used to replace the short cord from the Digital Smoke Generator to the tower.   Radio Shack 273-1740 Power Cord with two 273-1716 Radio Shack Adaptaplugs, Type M.

Watch the polarity.

The heavy cord is simply left disconnected.

The longer cord is needed to allow the Digital Smoke Generator to be removed from the tower and rigged up through a box and dryer vent pipe before being reconnected to the tower (same set up as Bradley Origional users have posted) The puck burner on the Digital Smoke Generator will not work without the small cord connected.  The tower temp continues to display on the Digital Generator with the small cord connected.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Mr Walleye on November 13, 2006, 05:37:02 AM
Good job researching that out WCK. I'll just add that in Canada Radio Shack was bought out by The Source by Circuit City. The part number for the type M is the same except it doesn't have the hyphen (2731716). I haven't been able to find the cord yet. When I do I will post the number.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Mr Walleye on November 13, 2006, 11:28:11 AM
I picked up the ends but was unable to get the correct wire. So I got creative and made my own. Works perfect.
I also noticed the power supply wire from the smoke generator to the main unit is just a computer monitor power cable that was used when you plug it into the power supply on the back of the CPU. I'll have to scrounge around, I'm sure I have a couple of those around.

Like I had said before, because I have my BS mounted in my heated garage I want to be able to mount the smoke generator permanently away from the main unit to allow for cold smoking.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 13, 2006, 07:34:44 PM
Be sure to post the updated pictures of your set up - when your finished.  Glad it works for you. Take Care
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 19, 2006, 09:32:15 PM
Greetings Mr Walleye, wondering if you put your smoke generator on the bottom shelf of your cart and what you used for an interface box? Did you id something that is stronger and better than a cardboard box?  What did you do for a door on the interface to allow you to change water?  How was the flow of smoke? Did you try the flow with and without your exhaust fan?
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Gizmo on November 19, 2006, 10:36:12 PM
Here is the highly sophisticated setup I put together.  Will try the dog food container as seen in another's post for a more permanent setup.  I am sure the buttkicker box will not last for ever but is has served its purpose well.
Finally got the account on photobucket set up so I thought I'd post these for you WCK.

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/GizmoPhoto/HomeNovember047.jpg)

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(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/GizmoPhoto/HomeNovember046.jpg)

(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/GizmoPhoto/HomeNovember059.jpg)

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Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 19, 2006, 11:12:05 PM
Thanks for the pictures.  The 6 rack looks taller than I thought it would be - just from the specs.  I think the box your thinking about is from a TomG posting.

Hey, That looks like BACON!


http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=4199.msg36392#msg36392

I guess I need to put a pool in the back yard so I have more electrical outlets available. I don't see an ethernet connection on the patio - are you wireless at home?
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Gizmo on November 19, 2006, 11:19:03 PM
Yes, TomG is the post I was referencing.  I think the sturdy plastic would hold some contact posts like on the side of the BS so this could be a quick connect and disconnect.  Now if I could find a part number for the ones Bradley used.

The outlet is quite handy and GFI protected.  The area is quite protected from what little wind we have so not much fluctuation from that element.  Guess I should have tidy up the cords a bit.  Was too excited to power up the unit and get the smoke rolling on the scallops.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 19, 2006, 11:43:15 PM
I was thinking of a Mr Walleye type of idea where the cold smoke box would be permanent and the generator would just stay there all the time.  If a strong enough interface box could be found, a person could hang the generator off a couple of bolts run through the wall of the interface box. Use a couple of nuts on each side of the wall of the box to hold them secure and a spacer the same size of the nut below the puck ramp to keep the generator level.  Would be fine if the puck burner is not needed to reach a desired high temperature or to help keep an even temperature (baffle the swings).  Mr. Walleye has a heated garage - no wind and all that... seems SD is temperate enough we could get by? Rambling thoughts, I have not tried to invent anything yet.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Gizmo on November 19, 2006, 11:49:14 PM
The temp swing and added heat for the bitter cold nights we have around here (you know around 32 deg) is why I was leaning toward the convertable mods.  But, on a more serious (almost) note, being closer to the ocean, you probably don't see the temps swing that low with the big pacific buffering some of the temp.  Since this will be the first winter with the BS, not sure how it will behave under all the conditions.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 20, 2006, 12:02:21 AM
I have been thinking about what to do - but no action yet. Hoping Mr W is after it and posts results. I have the smoker on a wierd little laundry cart thing. It has room under the shelf the smoker sets on so it could be set up pretty easily if i would get after making the box.  The cart is nice sized and allows me to wheel the hole thing into back yard shed.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Mr Walleye on November 20, 2006, 05:20:22 PM
HEY West Coast Kansan

I haven't decided on what I will use for an interface box. I would really like to use stainless steel but i haven't came up with anything yet. I felt the stainless would be strong enough to allow the smoke generator to be hung on the side. The design will have to incorporate a door to change the water. Looking through the posts I see some have used 3/4 inch plywood. I don't know about this idea with all the bonding agents used in plywood. It's just the interface box that is holding me back right now. Hmmmmm......
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Gizmo on November 20, 2006, 07:07:21 PM
Looks like we need a SS metal worker to whip up some fancy box with the smoke gen and metal dryer hose attachments.  Door with smoke proof seal. 
Wow, almost started writing a requirements document.  Good thing I caught myself.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Mr Walleye on November 20, 2006, 07:20:28 PM
You got it Gizmo!
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 21, 2006, 07:27:33 PM
Mr. W. I agree with you on plywood - not sure, but I suppose it will season eventually and we may not generate enough heat to pull vapor?. Spill water on wood and bug things grow better, also way too easy to work with reduces that pain. What about sheet metal just tacked to some lighter plywood. Metal lined and the plywood provides some strength to hold the generator. The nice thing about cardboard is it does not hold heat - all metal temp could go up after a while especially in a nice warm garage with no wind - effects the length of vent pipe needed. Just thinking out loud

Gizmo, need you to finish the specs on this thing seems like your collecting the user needs... - techy guy.
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Mr Walleye on November 21, 2006, 08:39:28 PM
I think if you used metal lined plywood, the plywood would act as an insulation on the metal. I would think just having the box built from metal would radiate more heat off it and therefore run cooler. I could be wrong but it makes sense to me. I once built a dehydrater out of plywood that I used mainly for jerky for a number of years and it was never a problem. Hmmm....

I noticed on Olds Receipe site here http://susan.rminor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32 there is a photo of a plywood box. I wonder if Olds would comment on his thoughts on using plywood?
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: West Coast Kansan on November 21, 2006, 08:51:45 PM
Good point on insulation... the box in the picture is still all pretty and new. No food goes into the box and smoke is real hard on bacteria so we may be discussing a mole hill into a mountain.  Trouble is the heat and not needing duct to go twice around the garage for the temp to drop.

There is a thought metal duct work junction box, used in commercial ventilation systems - 4 of the 6 sides are done - heavy gauge on one side to support the generator. 

We should start a post some where other than cold smoking and see if those who have been using "wheels" for a while have a good answer
Title: Re: Digital Generator Cord for Cold Smoke
Post by: Mr Walleye on November 21, 2006, 09:00:21 PM
As long as the metal junction box wasn't galvanized. I know from experience that galvanized material imparts a disgusting metal taste into items.