Was wondering if anyone has incorporated papain into their injectable meat marnaides.
I worked at a groc store many years ago and we sold Swift Protien Beef. At that time they would inject
papaya juice into the blood stream of the cow just prior to slaughter. The papya would work it's way into
the tissue of the slaughter cow and start breaking down the connective tissue. The meat was very tender.
Funny that you mention that CRG. I have done some BBR's and three racks of lambs on Thursday for some friends. When I bought the lamb, the butcher, (whom I never bought from before) was very nice and struck up a conversation with me. He asked me what was I planning to do with them and I said; smoke them. He was very intrigued and offered some advice. To rub the lamb with half a KIWI before putting the rub for the same exact reason you are talking about. I did not want to post this to give me some time to try it out, but now that you have mentioned papaya... well you did not leave me much choice.
HR
If i am not mistaken papain comes from the bark of the papaya plant and not the fruit itself.
I gave up on that stuff years ago. In the paraphrased words of Alton Brown, "The meat comes out with the consistency of dog food." No offense Zelda ;D
I sometimes use a "needler" on flat cuts of meat. It has 48 blades that you press into the meat. It cuts up the connective tissue and works well while not affecting the overall texture. If anyone is interested, I can probably dig up a link to it.
Arnie, I have one, also
Papain does come from the unripe fruit papaya. http://www.yourdictionary.com/papain And I agree with Arnie, using it can turn a piece of meat to mush. There are better ways to make it tender IMHO.
Quote from: ArnieM on October 16, 2009, 06:57:46 PM
I gave up on that stuff years ago. In the paraphrased words of Alton Brown, "The meat comes out with the consistency of dog food." No offense Zelda ;D
I sometimes use a "needler" on flat cuts of meat. It has 48 blades that you press into the meat. It cuts up the connective tissue and works well while not affecting the overall texture. If anyone is interested, I can probably dig up a link to it.
Arnie, are you talking about the meat jacard tenderizer?
HR
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on October 16, 2009, 07:18:43 PM
Papain does come from the unripe fruit papaya. http://www.yourdictionary.com/papain And I agree with Arnie, using it can turn a piece of meat to mush. There are better ways to make it tender IMHO.
I have done that, not good eats.
But I think in a mixture like Adolf's with a marinade might be a good thing.
You guys HAVE IT ALL WRONG. If you want moist tender meat you DO NOT have to inject, Rub fruit juice or punch it full of holes. We are talking about BBQ. Which by definition is LOW AND SLOW= Tenderness. I'm not as good with the words like my O'l Pal Caney but that's how it started with a chunk of tough cheap nobody else wanted it meat. Folks learned to cook it with smoke at low temps for a long time and got some really good food out of the deal.
How'd I do Caney?
Quote from: Hopefull Romantic on October 16, 2009, 07:19:44 PM
Arnie, are you talking about the meat jacard tenderizer?
HR
Yeah. They have a few models but this one looks close to mine.
http://www.amazon.com/Jaccard-Original-Super-Knife-Stainless/dp/B001A5B8SM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1255746639&sr=8-4
Go over the meat one way, rotate 90 degrees and do it again. Flip and repeat. It flattens as well so the result is good for stuffing and rolling, chicken fried steak, etc.
Ok Mr Caney Jr, It was a question to see what someone out there has done or not done. I don't inject to make something tender, I inject to bring a different taste to what I am cooking/smoking.
But the tenderizing mixture is interesting.
You know 10.5. You are right, Low and slow should do it and do it right and not only for meat. It applies for other "human activity" as well. ::)
HR
Low and slow up to a certain point, then it katy bar the door
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 16, 2009, 07:39:24 PM
Ok Mr Caney Jr, It was a question to see what someone out there has done or not done. I don't inject to make something tender, I inject to bring a different taste to what I am cooking/smoking.
But the tenderizing mixture is interesting.
;D ;D ;D
Wow that link for amazon was not a good time. When I went to close it I was hit by a barage of web sites that I couldn't keep up with deleting. Till my web just finally shut down. Within 30 sec. I had 25 web pages open up and I couldn't close them fast as they opened.
Quote from: Quarlow on October 16, 2009, 07:48:40 PM
Wow that link for amazon was not a good time. When I went to close it I was hit by a barage of web sites that I couldn't keep up with deleting. Till my web just finally shut down. Within 30 sec. I had 25 web pages open up and I couldn't close them fast as they opened.
ROTFL...Hope you didn't buy something from one of them web pages.
Haha Crg you're very funny. Razafraza drty blinkin clown blowin smoke up my butt.
Q, do you have a pop-up blocker?
they work....
Yeah I am well covered but somehow it just blew right threw. But it won't happen again. Once something like that happens I just report it and they review it right away and make adjustments to the system. At least that is what the tech from my provider says. Sounded like a lot of hooeey to me but I don't know much about it.
They hit so fast that, while it's blocking one, some get by.
I am double pop-up blocked.
I get one everynow and then, usually "nex-flix"
Gee, I'm awfully sorry about the popups. I've never had that problem.
The web page has "People that bought this also bought ..."
http://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-Armour%C2%AE-Boxerjock%C2%99/dp/B000GCJ7VA/ref=pd_sim_sg_5
Tenderizing meat?
Quote from: ArnieM on October 16, 2009, 08:21:59 PM
Gee, I'm awfully sorry about the popups. I've never had that problem.
The web page has "People that bought this also bought ..."
http://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-Armour%C2%AE-Boxerjock%C2%99/dp/B000GCJ7VA/ref=pd_sim_sg_5
Tenderizing meat?
Is that you Arnie? I hope you say no.......
Oh it's not your fault Arnie It has happened before. Not that big of a deal. It just freaks you out when this machine starts to do its own thing. Kind of reminds me of that Ultra classic movie from the 80's, " KILLDOZER". It takes on a life of its own and then I am scared to go to sleep for a week. LOL
Q, click on Arnies web post
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 16, 2009, 08:24:43 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on October 16, 2009, 08:21:59 PM
Gee, I'm awfully sorry about the popups. I've never had that problem.
The web page has "People that bought this also bought ..."
http://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-Armour%C2%AE-Boxerjock%C2%99/dp/B000GCJ7VA/ref=pd_sim_sg_5
Tenderizing meat?
Is that you Arnie? I hope you say no.......
No, that's not me. I always wear the black leather ones while tenderizing my pork.
I had an old man tell me one time to never have whoppi with a pig....he said they will squeal on you.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 16, 2009, 08:40:15 PM
I had an old man tell me one time to never have whoppi with a pig....he said they will squeal on you.
Not to mention swine flu.
So that what that was
Ok, I clicked on the link and all was good till I went to close it and bamm another barage. "ALRIGHT DID SOMEONE TURN THE POP UP BLOCKER OFF @@#$$%$%%^%&^&^&&(*(^^^#@@#!%%". Turns out the wifey did and it looks like I will need to buy a dog, cause I need to sleep in his house now. DOH.
Quote from: Quarlow on October 16, 2009, 09:06:50 PM
Turns out the wifey did and it looks like I will need to buy a dog, cause I need to sleep in his house now. DOH.
Just get an 8x10 shed. Put a cot and your smoker in it. Problem(s) solved.
Sounds like the ultimate bachleor condo.
When I brought Home my Traeger grill, my wife was pissed.
I put it together in den.
I slept on the couch in den that nite with the Traeger right next to me.
Damn Traeger kept me up all nite tellin me stories.
Quote from: classicrockgriller on October 16, 2009, 09:35:40 PM
Damn Traeger kept me up all nite tellin me stories.
Shoulda got a dog.
the dog was listenin and laughin
My wife wants a dog, until she sobers up. We've had a number of dogs before and currently have three cats; cats are easy.
W: The local pound has a one year old Chihuahua (sic?). You know, those nasty little almost a dog things.
We don't need it.
W: But it's so cute.
Where'd they get it?
W: Found on the street, wandering around.
And, no one claimed it.
W: No, it's lost.
Yeah, sure, and probably for good reason. You know these little dogs are difficult to house train?
W: I'll take it out.
When there's 12 inches of snow on the ground?
W: We can get wee-wee pads.
What?
W: They're pads you can put on the floor all over the house the doggy can go wee-wee on.
That was the end of the conversation.
I'm with you, them dogs are weird.
#1 dog that bite a postman is a Ch...that one you said