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Title: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: northernbbq on January 16, 2010, 08:29:15 PM
Hey all,

I am located from the Southern part of Wisconsin. I travel for work a bit and on a trip I was treated to true BBQ straight from the Florida pan-handle through the Carolinas all within a week. We ate BBQ all week and I LOVED it. I was truly blown away by all the styles and flavors. The best were all long slow pit style. I am the best guy with a Weber I know and can slow cook ribs but was looking to step it up a notch. I am fortunate to have a lady at my side who purchased a Bradley Smoker for me for Christmas. In the warmer January weather (above 20F) I have no problems getting my smoker to what I understand is the sweet spot of around 200F.

My first batches included some venisin brats and then some ribs. I like them all but was told the food was "too smokey". I talked with some folks who say you only smoke for the first hour or so then just slow cook. Comments?

I am cooking a briskit tonight. It has been on for 4 hours and looks pretty wet, not having any of the nice dark coloring. I sort of picket at with my tongs but it seems rubbery.

I have so much too learn! Am I supposed to soak the biscuits? Should I smoke ribs for more than an hour?

I read some posts and am currently reading 'Smoke & Spice" but I could really use some VERY basic advise.

Thanks all, great forum.

Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: MPTubbs on January 16, 2010, 08:43:28 PM
Welcome Northernbbq.

You shouldn't have to smoke anything over 4 hours.

Smaller pieces of meat will take less smoke.

Brisket takes a long time......4 hours in the smoker means to me that the smoke part is over and it time to cook!

Brisket can take up to 2 hours a pound to hit an IT of 195*.  I just did 26 pounds and it took me 25 hours.

Your bark will come have Patience.

I usually smoke ribs for 2 to 3 hours.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: MrsHoss on January 16, 2010, 09:01:39 PM
Welcome.  This is such a wonderful forum with loads of great people, recipes and general information.  Happy Smoking. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: hal4uk on January 16, 2010, 09:27:48 PM
Well HELLO, HELLO, HELLOOOOO THERE, NBBQ!!!
Let me wish you an extra special WELCOME TO THE FORUM!

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Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: classicrockgriller on January 16, 2010, 09:32:38 PM
Welcome to the Forum.

Tubbs made some nice Brisket today and he is on the $$.

4 hrs smoke A cabinet temp of around 220 and let her ride.

The Bark will come. Keep your vent 3/4 to full open.

Keep an eye on your water bowl. Fill it before you go to sleep.

don't soak the busicuits, they will come apart!

Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: smokeNcanuck on January 16, 2010, 09:34:00 PM
Welcome, as I am new I don't think I can help you out but their are plenty of great people hear that can.
For the record I(if you can not tell live in Canada)AND LOVE THE PACKERS!! too bad they did not make the playoffs :( :(
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: northernbbq on January 17, 2010, 08:38:59 AM
We make some pretty cool machines. Several of our customers are Smoker mfgr's!
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: northernbbq on January 17, 2010, 08:42:21 AM
Thanks to all for the feedback. I kept a small brisket on for about 4.5 hours. The flavor was good but seemed to me like it needed a lot more time. The very edges were excellent. So even the learning process is enjoyable!
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: harper072554 on January 17, 2010, 09:08:59 AM
Welcome aboard... I am very new here... I have already gained some very useful knowledge here...
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: FLBentRider on January 17, 2010, 09:33:20 AM
W E L C O M E  to the Forum northernbbq!

So I guess you are a "southerner" then ?
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: KevinG on January 18, 2010, 10:53:49 AM
Welcome northernbbq, coming from Wisconsin I'm guessing you'd be a good candidate for smoked cheeeeeeeeese!
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: Tenpoint5 on January 18, 2010, 11:59:52 AM
Welcome Aboard, Just out of curiosity where you located in Southern Wis? I am basically just across the river in Iowa. South of Dubuque.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: dbondy on January 18, 2010, 01:08:53 PM
Welcome to the forum northernbbq, these guys and gals are great here. Everyone here also likes a little food porn, so if you get a chance post some pics.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: OU812 on January 19, 2010, 07:01:01 AM
Welcome to the fun northernbbq

This is the place for all your smoking and quite a bit of non smoked food questions to be answered, theres allot of knowledge on here.

Quote from: northernbbq on January 17, 2010, 08:42:21 AM
Thanks to all for the feedback. I kept a small brisket on for about 4.5 hours. The flavor was good but seemed to me like it needed a lot more time. The very edges were excellent. So even the learning process is enjoyable!

4.5 hr on a brisket is just starting to cook that bad boy. You should go by internal temp and not time when cooking in the Bradly or any other smoker.
Just a ball park for brisket is 2hr per lb with a cabnet temp of 200 to 220 F
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: northernbbq on January 19, 2010, 10:49:16 AM
I have learned that I need to get a good thermometer! My attempts have been under-cooked. With the estimates of time (Ex:2hrs/lb) are you really smoking the entire time?

I once went to a place in Birmingham called Dreamland BBQ. These guys do a pretty darn good job. I would like to mirror their ribs if possible.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: Caneyscud on January 19, 2010, 11:16:57 AM
Quote from: northernbbq on January 19, 2010, 10:49:16 AM
I have learned that I need to get a good thermometer! My attempts have been under-cooked. With the estimates of time (Ex:2hrs/lb) are you really smoking the entire time?

I once went to a place in Birmingham called Dreamland BBQ. These guys do a pretty darn good job. I would like to mirror their ribs if possible.
With the Bradley, most do not smoke the entire cook.  Depending on what you are 'Qing, anywhere between 1 hour and 6 hours or smoke.  I like a lot of smoke flavor, so on my smokes I go more, but there is a point of diminishing returns.  i.e. twice as much smoke doesn't get you twice as much smoke flavor. 

Dreamland, I have eaten there once, but did not have ribs.  Going to B'ham in 3 weeks, I intend to try their ribs.   
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: OU812 on January 19, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
Quote from: northernbbq on January 19, 2010, 10:49:16 AM
are you really smoking the entire time?

No

You will only need to smoke a brisket for 3 to 4 hr the rest of the time is just cookin, slow and low.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: northernbbq on January 20, 2010, 10:18:37 AM
Dreamland - I loved it. I order their sauce on the internet. They make spare ribs over coals, low and slow.

Thanks again for all the feedback... any recommendations for which wood is best?
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: OU812 on January 20, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
I like to smoke brisket for 4 hr with Oak.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: Quarlow on January 20, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
Welcome to the forum.

Mesquite-Very strong
Hickory-strong
Oak-strong but not overpowering
Pecan-mild version of Oak
Maple-Mild
Cherry-Mild & fruity
Apple-Mild, fruity with a slight sweetness
Alder-Light with a hint of sweetness
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 11:42:15 AM
Quote from: Quarlow on January 20, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
Welcome to the forum.

Mesquite-Very strong
Hickory-strong
Oak-strong but not overpowering
Pecan-mild version of Oak
Maple-Mild
Cherry-Mild & fruity
Apple-Mild, fruity with a slight sweetness
Alder-Light with a hint of sweetness

Hey Q...do you have your wood thingie on speed dial?  :D
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: Quarlow on January 20, 2010, 11:45:14 AM
Yeah got tired of typing it out so I saved it in a notepad. I have quite a few things going that way. Working on a basic tips for newbies for things like keep the vent open and such, you know all the things we repeat to newbies everytime a new one comes on.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: MPTubbs on January 20, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
Q, your the man!

Good think'n.  ;)
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: hal4uk on January 20, 2010, 05:29:56 PM
I was gonna put KyNola's wood guide on a cheatsheet.  But, really, it ain't so hard typing "Hickory - Use it."
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: ArnieM on January 20, 2010, 05:48:29 PM
Welcome to the forum northernbbq.

I don't think I've ever even gone over three hours of smoke.

Yep, keep the vent 3/4 to full open.

Ideally, you want to cook by temp, not time.  Use time as a rough guide.  Temp is kinda tough for ribs so you generally go by how far the meat is pulling back from the bone.

Also, keep a log of what you've done, at least for a while until you really get the hang of it.  You can always look back to see what you did and your opinion of how it came out.  Adjust from there is necessary.

It takes a little practice.  Keep it up.
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: sage03 on January 21, 2010, 11:54:51 AM
Welcome northerbbq!!I used to live in Madison..quite afew years ago...now in NC..There's a couple of folks round here that make pretty decent BBQ,brisket,ribs and even smoked cheese and smoked salt! Too bad the Pack didn't make it any farther...been a fan my whole life!! aren't all Pack fans that way??  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: Bobbert on January 21, 2010, 02:02:40 PM
Welcome to the wonderful world of smoke!!

I am from just north of Milwaukee and I have a few briskets under my belt.  Here is how I do it (Yes I know I boat my brisket, but it still comes out great everytime!

I have 8 lbs of pork butt for Saturday (MMMM  Pulled pork for the games!!!)

Bob's Beef Brisket (B3) Rev 3  Third Time is a Charm!

7  lb beef brisket ---Fat cap is key! But you can trim any thick pieces of fat

Rub (This made enough for a 6-8 lb Brisket)
•   1/4 cup paprika
•   2 T Black Pepper
•   2 T Kosher salt
•   2 T of Sugar
•   1 T Chili Powder
•   2  tsp Onion Powder
•   2  tsp Garlic Powder
•   1 tsp Cayenne
•   1 tsp Cumin
•   1 tsp Worcestershire powder (if you can find it)
•   1 tsp Horseradish powder (if you can find it)
•   1 tsp Thyme
•   ½ tsp nutmeg

Rub Brisket night before and let sit in a covered glass dish overnight.  Or in ziplock bag  (I just did a brisket and rub it and smoked it with no rest time and turned out great!)

Option – some people coat their brisket with yellow mustard and then rub it, but I have tried it –yet!!

For a BDS
•   Set Oven temp to 260 degrees and Preheat (this will help with the temp shock that will occur when you put in a hunk of brisket)
•   Set oven timer for 9:00 (just add more as you go along) and drop the oven temp to 220 degrees
•   Set Smoke for about 4 -5 hours with vent about half open! Typical is 4 hours
•   Let cook for 30 more minutes (I believe that when you start the smoker the  amount of smoke is less, but by the end of 4 hours of smoking (using the DBS smoke timer) you have a good 30 minutes of fine smoke that can be applied to the meat.
•   After smoking place Brisket into pan with a splash of Apple Juice (optional), no need to over do it (the tray will fill with drippings).  Cover with foil (boating) and put a probe in it! And cooked at an oven temp of 220 degrees I cooked this from 10pm to 9 am. Low and slow!!!  (you can also do this in your oven)
•   Cook until IT is about 193 degrees(this seem to be a nice temp).  Total cook time (smoke and boat) was 15 hours plus 3 hours FTC Brisket is done when it is done!!

Used all mesquite (make sure you hit the briquette advance 2 times prior to starting the smoke)

Fill Drip bowl full of water

I started smoking at 6PM, boated the brisket at 10PM and drop the temp to 210 degrees at 9am the next morning the IT was 193 degrees and the brisket almost fall apart!!  Then FTC for 3 hours and had a great lunch!!! The Brisket was juicy and tender - PERFECT! 

FTC - After the smoking / cooking process place the Brisket in a foil tray or wrap in foil added back some juice from the pan about 1/2cup, cover the top with Foil, wrap all that in Towels so that there is no foil showing then into a Cooler for an hour or longer the longer the better. (FTC for 3-5 hours)
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: car54 on January 21, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Welcome Northernbbq,

  Do not be afraid to ask questions, someone will help you. This is a great forum.

I am not to far away from you. I live in New Berlin, Wi.

Brad
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: northernbbq on January 21, 2010, 05:34:35 PM
Wow to all and a big thanks! I will try the brisket recipe!

I like the talk of smoked cheese... that is on my list! Great forum.

Thanks All! I'll report on how the next effort turns out. I am feeling ribs in my future!
Title: Re: Hello From Wisconsin
Post by: Quarlow on January 21, 2010, 07:31:53 PM
If you want to see how we build a temporary cold smoker just say so. I have pics of mine.