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Title: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: dbrown1 on September 22, 2009, 08:04:52 AM
Okay so I got my first brisket, I must be bad at following directions... first off I got a flat not a packer it looks good though (what is the difference)?
My question is we are only three people in my family so I bought one about 5.5 lbs and am going to follow WTS recipe for a smaller brisket what is a good guide for smoke time as well of oven cook time ? thought I read about 2 hours per pound in the oven somewhere... still have a week to go before I am ready so hope to get plenty of input before then.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: FLBentRider on September 22, 2009, 08:58:36 AM
I do mine to an IT of at least 190F, however many hours that works out to.

A packer is usually the flat and the point in a cryovac, untrimmed.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: OU812 on September 22, 2009, 09:32:14 AM
Quote from: FLBentRider on September 22, 2009, 08:58:36 AM
I do mine to an IT of at least 190F, however many hours that works out to.

A packer is usually the flat and the point in a cryovac, untrimmed.

I like the flat more than the point, slice the flat cube the point.

The time thing is only a guide line to start checking things more closely, like IT and start geting the other fixins ready.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: Wildcat on September 22, 2009, 09:55:08 AM
Suggestion: Even though family size may be small, when it comes to brisket and butts, go for the larger sizes. If you have a vacuum sealer, then you can freeze in smaller portion sizes which makes future meals very simple and quick. Simply reheat. I do a lot of butts and will do 2 large ones at a time.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: OU812 on September 22, 2009, 10:02:16 AM
Wildact has a good point, brisket and butt make great leftovers and like he said vacuume seal in meal sized bags for later in the week. Just warm up in the bag in simmering not boiling water for about 20 min and its as good as it was be for it was put in the bag.

Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: Wildcat on September 22, 2009, 10:06:48 AM
IMHO it is even better. Smoke does not penetrate very far into meat while it is cooking. Once you pull the meat, chop up the bark into fine pieces. Then blend throughout all of the meat. When you reheat, the smoke flavor penetrates throughout the meat.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: OU812 on September 22, 2009, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: Wildcat on September 22, 2009, 10:06:48 AM
IMHO it is even better. Smoke does not penetrate very far into meat while it is cooking. Once you pull the meat, chop up the bark into fine pieces. Then blend throughout all of the meat. When you reheat, the smoke flavor penetrates throughout the meat.

You got that right.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: ArnieM on September 22, 2009, 10:32:32 AM
I did a whole brisket (not a packer) cut in half.  The tip was on a higher shelf and the probe was in the tip.  I figured on 1.5 hours/lb but it was closer to 2 to get to 190.  The total weight was a little over 8 pounds. Actually, the point sliced very nicely.

I'm going to do the freezing thing with my left over pulled pork.  I love the stuff but can't face it at every meal.  ;)  I'll use the chopped up bark trick.  I don't have a vacuum sealer so I'll just put it zip-type freezer bags and squeeze out all of the air that I can.  Once, I saw Alton Brown put stuff in a zip bag, insert a straw in the opening and zip to just leave room for the straw.  He sucked out the air and did a quick remove-the-straw and seal.  But, he's a little ...
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: dbrown1 on September 22, 2009, 11:03:01 AM
Excellent suggestions, I will make sure and get Half a cow next time  :P... What bisquettes would anyone suggest for this I have heard hickory and mesquite also oak, but this will be my first piece of smoked meat so I don't have a preference as I have yet to use any of those...
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: squirtthecat on September 22, 2009, 11:08:05 AM

Last 2 briskets I used 1/2 apple and 1/2 hickory..
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: pensrock on September 22, 2009, 11:16:44 AM
I'm doing one today with hickory.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: ArnieM on September 22, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
I did mine with Oak.  So there you have it; we all agree.  :D
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: ArnieM on September 22, 2009, 11:22:50 AM
Sorry db1, I forgot to mention.  This 'throwdown' thread is a must-read before you do your brisket.

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=11411.0
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: squirtthecat on September 22, 2009, 11:25:36 AM

I forgot, I did my pastrami (corned beef brisket flat) with Pecan..

So, yeah..  Anything but hedge will work fine.

Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: Caneyscud on September 22, 2009, 11:40:33 AM
Uhhh.  Can I say Mesquite.  The queen of brisket woods (except maybe post oak, but no post oak pucks can I find)
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: OU812 on September 22, 2009, 01:00:49 PM
Brisket + 4 hr Oak = Heaven  :D

It all works just go for it and let us know how things turn out.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on September 22, 2009, 02:52:06 PM
I think all of the above choices on wood are good. But I do lean a bit to oak or a mix of apple and hickory. As Arnie said on time, mine to have been closer to 2 hours per pound. Good luck and keep us posted.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: dbrown1 on September 22, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Thank for all the info guys I will take plenty of pics and let ya know how it turns out... pretty excited these two weeks of waiting are killing me
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: squirtthecat on September 22, 2009, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: dbrown1 on September 22, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Thank for all the info guys I will take plenty of pics and let ya know how it turns out... pretty excited these two weeks of waiting are killing me

Can you find a small one to practice with before then?
That's what I did for my first brisket.  1/2 of a flat.   Maybe 15 bucks worth...

Then you can adjust times/temps/wood/rub/procedures for the 'real' one.
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: OU812 on September 23, 2009, 05:24:05 AM
Quote from: dbrown1 on September 22, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Thank for all the info guys I will take plenty of pics and let ya know how it turns out... pretty excited these two weeks of waiting are killing me

Payshunts is a virtue my friend
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: dbrown1 on September 23, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
I hear that, Squirt I am only doing a 5.5 lb one so if I should screw it up no worries it was pretty cheap.... the next one will be a big fat packer for sure
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: OU812 on September 23, 2009, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: dbrown1 on September 23, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
... the next one will be a big fat packer for sure

I think he's hooked  ;D


Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: dbrown1 on September 29, 2009, 08:07:22 AM
Oh man Friday is approaching and I can't wait to get up at the butt crack of dawn to start my Brisket... Pictures coming soon
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: squirtthecat on September 29, 2009, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: dbrown1 on September 29, 2009, 08:07:22 AM
...   butt crack of dawn to start my Brisket...    Pictures coming soon

Of the brisket, please.  Not that other thing..   :D
Title: Re: Yet another brisket topic
Post by: dbrown1 on September 29, 2009, 08:23:20 AM
errr yeah of course I mean why would I take pictures of ..... ;D