Hi,
A visit from some friends from Oregon last week, who own the DBS, led to the point where I'm about to purchase a BS. My wife likes the idea on two fronts: less cooking for her and she thinks it will keep me out of trouble. Plus, our friends' tale of making pastrami, which she loves, in their BS, had her thinking that this would be the perfect mutual Christmas present for us this year. But an early Christmas present so that we can take advantage of the usually great fall weather here in Maryland and get smoking as soon as possible.
Here's where I need some help from you kind folks on the forum. Let me first tell you that I've always loved anything smoked- cheese, sausage, wild game, fish/seafood, pork, beef, poultry, eggs, nuts, beer- you name it. So, I'll probably be trying a little of everything. However, I'm stuck on whether I should go with the DBS (4-rack), the OBS, or the SS. I'll probably get a PID down the road, but not now. I'm also considering getting the cold smoke adaptor to start, so I'd be interested in opinions on that as well.
My friends with the DBS swear by it and told us about a friend who had the OBS and regretted not getting the DBS, but from what I've read here and in other reviews, it seems that folks fall pretty equally on both sides and some even have both.
I'm also probably going to order from Yard and Pool, even though the prices are a bit better on Amazon, but I like what I hear on here about Bryan and Yard and Pool, plus I'd like to support a local Maryland business, particularly in these tight times, and even though that means I have to pay the Maryland 6% sales tax. However, I do like that I can get everything in one place.
I appreciate all of your input and time.
Thanks
brewerpac, first of all welcome to the forum, a great place to make friends that like what you like....smoking everything (beer too)
I have a DBS as I am not as smart as some of these guys and if it gets close, its eaten. If you get a DBS you can add a PID later
if you want. I went thru the same thoughts as you and finally put my choices on my dart board and bought the one I hit. I got a
JB D4R. Am very happy with it. Bradley as a company is first class. Brian Bradley tours the forum and helps with problems and gives
us this great room to stay out of trouble and post great recipes for our Bradley. If you have a question or problem, someone will help
you. All they ask in return is that you post pictures of your smokes. Good luck!
WTG
On your purchase and Bryan and the Y&P staff are top notch.
nepas
Hey there classicrockgriller,
Thanks for the welcome and the input. I've got a dart board in the basement, so I might just use your decision-making method! I like the looks of that Jim Beam model as well, so I'll have to add that one to the board and fire away.
And i'll remember to post some pics when the time comes.
Thanks again.
One more thing, get Bryan to set you up with a Maverick et-73. With that you can monitor you cabinet heat (the Bradley temp is close, this is just a little more accurate) and you can monitor the IT of what you are cooking. You will want an accurate temp source.
Thanks for the advice on the Maverick.
nepas, thanks and thanks also for your convenient link to Y&P, which is what led me their site in the first place (that, plus the ringing and unsolicited endorsements).
Hi brewerpac and welcome to the forum.
I support every thing CRG said and he has gotten you off to a great start. As for Nepas, he will never send you on a bum steer.
I just wanted to comment on the cold smoke adaptor. When I made my purchase I decided to go all out and get all that there is including the cold smoke adaptor. It is great for all cold smokes and I love it. You can build your own if you wish, but I decided to get a set with bradley's name all over.
Good luck.
HR
Hi brewerpac;
Welcome to the forum.
I have no advice for you on which model to purchase, but in case you didn't know Yard & Pool also has a retail store, so if you are in Maryland you should drive over there and visit.
I have the OBS. I have cranked out some mighty fine eats with it.
I added a PID and it made it easier.
A PID is not a requirement, but it makes doing sausage and some fish recipes a lot easier.
Welcome to the forum. My learned colleagues have given you great advice. There is nothing useful I can add. Just wanted to welcome you aboard and tell you that the Bradley folks are one fine group to be associated with. You will not find better customer support and service.
KyNola
Welcome to the fun
The only thing I can add is get your self some bubba pucks
I have the DBS6 and love it. I have sence added a PID
Thanks to all for the welcome and advice.
I was trying to figure out if Y&P had a bricks-and-mortar store as well, so thanks to Habanero Smoker for that info. Thanks also to Hopefull Romantic for letting me know about the cold smoke adaptor. I think that I will go all out as well and order that with the smoker, especially since I want to do some smoked cheese and I think that it will also work well for smoking grains to use in my homebrewed beer. If any beer lovers out there haven't tried a traditional Rauchbier along with smoked foods, you really should- it's incredible.
And thank you OU812- I've already added the bubba pucks to my preliminary Y&P shopping cart.
And I will keep the PID in mind (maybe after a few months of getting to know the BS).
I'll keep you posted on which BS that I decide to get- I'm hoping to do my first smoke by early October. :)
Thanks again to everyone.
Coop
If you don't want to spend the $$$ for the pid, this is a nice 1/2 price option...
Ranco ETC-111000-000 Digital Temperature Controller
It's not a programmable PID, just a nice heavy duty thermostat.
Here is a thread on it, I just updated it with my latest results: (which were all good)
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=11518.0
Hey Brewerpac Welcome. All I can add here is that I got my OBS and I do alot of smoked salmon so it fills the smoker pretty quickly. I only wish I had gotten the six rack. If I was to do it again I would get a six rack and put the PID on it right away. The PID for me is better so that I can set the temperature ramp ups and not have to fiddle with it. That being said, You will be happy with any model you get. My last batch of smoked salmon
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was 50 lbs and it took my OBS and my brothers digital six rack. And while his was easy to set the temps on, I had my OBS dialed in pretty good. You get them figured out pretty quickly.
Thanks to squirtthecat and Quarlow for the most recent posts and to all for the warm welcome and the invaluable advice.
I've touched base with Bryan at Yard and Pool, so I should be making a purchase soon and doing my first smoking soon after. I can't wait. ;D
I'll keep you all posted.
Thanks again,
Coop
Be sure and post pics.
Will do.
Welcome , Glad to have you with us.
This is the place to learn, lots of good info and helpful friendly Members.
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Paul
Paul,
Thanks for the welcome.
I'm driving out to meet Bryan at Yard & Pool today to purchase the SS and some things to go with it.
Can't wait.
Coop
Coop, I know I couldn't wait either, but the smoke food will be worth the wait. Congrats again. CRG
Hey CRG and all,
Thanks for the congrats.
Just wanted to give you an update and to let you know that my wait is over: I picked up the SS smoker and everything else (except the cold smoke adaptor, which is coming tomorrow) on Saturday afternoon out at Yard & Pool in Frederick MD.
Bryan was kind enough to meet me there, knowing that Saturday was the only day that I could make it, even though they are normally closed then this time of the year.
He really put together a nice package for me. The cover, the Bubba pucks, the high-temp screens, the Maverick ET-73, a couple of different rubs, and every type of wood available as a 12-pack.
I really can't say enough about his attention to detail and the excellent service. All of you who have endorsed him and Y&P were right on the mark! Y&P has got a customer for life with me. I'm glad that Bryan and the store are just an hour's drive away for me.
After seasoning the Bradley for 2 hours with Special Blend bisquettes, I put in some boneless country-style ribs (loin cut- about 3 lbs), then, later, 1 lb each of sea scallops and shrimp, and 4 portabello mushrooms. I started with 1 hour of the Jim Beam bisquettes (man, did they smell great as I sipped on a Rogue whiskey- sorry, I didn't have any JB around) and followed it with more of the Special Blend for the seafood and mushrooms. My wife and 10-yo son were as happy with the results as I was.
As I told Bryan, even my picky-eater 7-yo daughter likes the Bradley, but only because she loves the smell of the smoke. I was a picky eater as a kid, so I know that she'll come around one day and be like me, trying everything at least once. And loving the smell of the smoke is a good start!
I can't wait until next weekend so that I can get out there again.
Any suggestions on what I should try next time as a novice?
Should I go for the mesquite bisquettes? Keep in mind that I'm born and bred in the Chesapeake region, the Land of Pleasant Living (which means that, even though I love all kinds of meat and will be doing a lot of it, I'm also going to be doing a lot of fish and seafood- I'm still thinking about trying crab cakes and some soft crabs in the BS).
So, in other words, I'm not from Texas and I may not be able to properly handle the Wood of the Gods.
Thanks,
Coop
Welcome to our addiction....
On the mesquite - I would try it, not more than an hour or two... Just so you can taste it. I wouldn't go out and buy a 120-box or anything.
I've put it on Beef, Chicken and baby back ribs.
I would smoke a whole chicken, then tackle a pork butt.
I happen to know the cold-smoked rib recipe on the recipe site is excellent.... :D :D ::)
Welcome!
Chicken drummies, turkey breast, bone-in ham (just a cheapo water-added one) are all good starters, an only take a few hours. Maybe some turkey drumsticks, if you are in to such things.
Pork butts are quite forgiving, but be prepared for an 18+ hour start-to-finish time investment.
I've been using an Apple/Pecan combination on everything. Mild enough, but still with a nice 'smokey' flavor.
Never tried mesquite, and I find hickory a bit too strong.
Quote from: FLBentRider on October 05, 2009, 11:40:43 AM
On the mesquite - I would try it, not more than an hour or two... Just so you can taste it. I wouldn't go out and buy a 120-box or anything.
Welcome to the forum Coop! I'd go for the 120 of mesquite....if you don't like it you can always send whats left to me! ;D Once again Welcome and keep us posted!
C
brewerpac, Sounds like you had a heck of a busy weekend. Glad the wait is over and the fun has begun. Every region or person has things they like and dislike. I would do things that you already like and see if the difference in the bradley makes it better for you. There are somethings I have smoked but like better charcoal grilled. Save the mesquite for a day when you want to try a stronger wood. Get to know the Bradley and then you are on you way. You and your family will enjoy this for a long time and that 7 yr old will be eatin smoke ribs right beside Daddy in no time. My Daughter is 28 and lives in Nashville and I send her about 60 lbs of smoke/grilled food every month. It cost me a small fortune for the vac-pac and thick walled cooler and ups 2 day shipping, But when she ask daddy couldn't say no. Keep us posted on your new smoke adventure. CRG
Chicken wings, 2 Hr Alder, cabnet temp set at 220 F, when smoke is done finish on the grill to crisp up the skin.
When I grow up I'll have "The Big Easy"
Chicken would be a good follow up smoke, just remember to keep the vent wide open when doing poultry.
I like Alder or Apple on poultry, Oak on brisket, Hickory on bacon and Pecan on every thing else, but thats just me. Try a little of each to see what you like.
My Bad
Congrads on your first smoke. Sounds like every thing went well.
Keep the smoke rolling.
Congratulation on the purchase. Wish you lots of smokes with great results.
HR
Welcome to the forum brewerpac. You'll meet a bunch of very nice and helpful people here. But, beware. Many have gone over the edge on adult beverages and they, they can't, they, what was I saying?
Quote from: westexasmoker on October 05, 2009, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: FLBentRider on October 05, 2009, 11:40:43 AM
On the mesquite - I would try it, not more than an hour or two... Just so you can taste it. I wouldn't go out and buy a 120-box or anything.
Welcome to the forum Coop! I'd go for the 120 of mesquite....if you don't like it you can always send whats left to me! ;D Once again Welcome and keep us posted!
Yeah, you would. Maybe you can get an entire pallet load?
C
Hey all,
Thanks for all of the great suggestions about which woods to use and which smokeable edibles to try next.
What I don't get to this coming weekend, I'll keep in mind for Halloween weekend when we're planning a big BBQ with some of the neighbors. My buddy up the street, who competes in a BBQ competition at the Jersey shore every summer, will be manning his Big Green Egg and I of course will be getting the Bradley working early in the day and also using my Weber gas grill as needed. There may be some mesquite involved that weekend! Definitely the Jim Beam will be employed.
And, Arnie, I'm sure that the adult beverages will be a factor, for better or worse (but with some Belgian Trappist ales, IPAs, an imperial stout or two, some Zinfandel, single malts, and rye whiskey, either neat or by way of Manhattan, it can only be for the better).
Hey CRG, 60 lbs of smoked/grilled food per month!!?? Wow, you are a good dad. Would you like to adopt a 45-yo man who is relatively housebroken? ;D
Glad to be a part of the Bradley community,
Coop
Coop
With all those good eats and adult beverages it sounds like holloween weekend is going to be the place to be but with no JD what am I going to drink ;D
OU812,
Do you prefer the black label Jack or Gentleman Jack? I'm sure that there will be one or the other or both on hand.
Not to be blasphemous, but I prefer George Dickel, and have a bottle in my liquor cabinet now. However, I would never turn down some Jack. :D
Quote from: brewerpac on October 06, 2009, 09:15:44 AM
Hey all,
Thanks for all of the great suggestions about which woods to use and which smokeable edibles to try next.
What I don't get to this coming weekend, I'll keep in mind for Halloween weekend when we're planning a big BBQ with some of the neighbors. My buddy up the street, who competes in a BBQ competition at the Jersey shore every summer, will be manning his Big Green Egg and I of course will be getting the Bradley working early in the day and also using my Weber gas grill as needed. There may be some mesquite involved that weekend! Definitely the Jim Beam will be employed.
And, Arnie, I'm sure that the adult beverages will be a factor, for better or worse (but with some Belgian Trappist ales, IPAs, an imperial stout or two, some Zinfandel, single malts, and rye whiskey, either neat or by way of Manhattan, it can only be for the better).
Hey CRG, 60 lbs of smoked/grilled food per month!!?? Wow, you are a good dad. Would you like to adopt a 45-yo man who is relatively housebroken? ;D
Glad to be a part of the Bradley community,
Coop
ok....but don't call me daddy.
Quote from: brewerpac on October 06, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
OU812,
Do you prefer the black label Jack or Gentleman Jack? I'm sure that there will be one or the other or both on hand.
Not to be blasphemous, but I prefer George Dickel, and have a bottle in my liquor cabinet now. However, I would never turn down some Jack. :D
Black lable bout every night, just enough to take the edge off. Gentleman on the rocks when we are just enjoying the company of others in front of the fire.
Cant say I have ever had George Dickel. What would it be, burbon ?
It's the other Tennessee whiskey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dickel
When I was a kid growing up in Baltimore in the late 60s/early 70s, I used to hear the adults talking about it, so it must have been more popular in my family than JD.
But my preferred whiskey type is straight rye, which I also owe to my Baltimore roots. My dad always had a bottle on hand of Pikesville Supreme Straight Rye Whiskey, which used to be made in Maryland, but is now made in Kentucky by Heaven Hill, which does a great job with it.
If you've never had rye, I recommend it for a change of pace. Pikesville is very good and extremely reasonable in price, but there are ryes out there, just like bourbons, that go for upwards of $150/bottle!
If somebody has some to share, I'll surely go for it, but otherwise I'll stick with my Pikesville rye in the 1.75 L bottle for $20.
CRG, if you were sending me 60 lbs of food a month, I'd be glad to call you anything you like, sir! ;D
Quote from: brewerpac on October 06, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
If you've never had rye, I recommend it for a change of pace.
That I will do, any one that knows this much about there whiskey I will follow there recommendation. Now, to see if I can find it.
Quote from: OU812 on October 06, 2009, 03:05:18 PM
Quote from: brewerpac on October 06, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
If you've never had rye, I recommend it for a change of pace.
That I will do, any one that knows this much about there whiskey I will follow there recommendation. Now, to see if I can find it.
Might I recommend one from your neighbor state, Iowa? Templeton Rye is a good, smooth drink, but be careful, it is potent. Granted, I had the bootleg version, but after about 3 ounces, I could not feel my feet, and I am a big guy who had never felt the effects of alcohol prior to that. Oh, I drank before that, but never felt it.
Quote from: Tiny Tim on October 06, 2009, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: OU812 on October 06, 2009, 03:05:18 PM
Quote from: brewerpac on October 06, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
If you've never had rye, I recommend it for a change of pace.
That I will do, any one that knows this much about there whiskey I will follow there recommendation. Now, to see if I can find it.
Might I recommend one from your neighbor state, Iowa? Templeton Rye is a good, smooth drink, but be careful, it is potent. Granted, I had the bootleg version, but after about 3 ounces, I could not feel my feet, and I am a big guy who had never felt the effects of alcohol prior to that. Oh, I drank before that, but never felt it.
All these rye whiskey's out there and I have never seen them, must be tunnle vision when I get my new bottle. I'll see if I can find the Templeton also. Thanks Tim
I really enjoy all of these (haven't had most of what was mentioned) adult beverages. But, my doctor told me to stop. He said continuing to come to see him won't do me any good. So, I did - I don't go to see him anymore. ;D ;D
Arnie needs a new signature line he can turn on/off as needed! [EDIT] :D
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Quote from: ArnieM on October 06, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
I really enjoy all of these (haven't had most of what was mentioned) adult beverages. But, my doctor told me to stop. He said continuing to come to see him won't do me any good. So, I did - I don't go to see him anymore. ;D ;D
Now that sounds like a good solution! :D Like your way of thinking Arnie.
This is a nice thread and I don't want to hijack it - well maybe just a little.
My son-in-laws parents came over from England and stayed with us for a few days - nice people. They were intent on taking a 'drive' up to Niagara Falls - about 7 hours from here. They went and enjoyed it. Have you ever seen 400 "What I did on my summer vacation" pictures?
Anyway, for those of you as old as I, I had to give them this old film clip. Now, I promise I'll go away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr6VBg1SiYI
My favorite Abbot and Castello scene is "Who's on first".
It cracks me up every time.
HR
I remember seeing the "Slowly I Turn" bit on I Love Lucy. My favorite Abott & Costello movie is Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein.
Regarding the Templeton Rye, I guess I'll have to wait until the next time that I'm in Chicago, because i hear that it's only available in Iowa and Illinois. But I've heard that it's real good.
Quote from: brewerpac on October 07, 2009, 02:08:21 PM
Regarding the Templeton Rye, I guess I'll have to wait until the next time that I'm in Chicago, because i hear that it's only available in Iowa and Illinois. But I've heard that it's real good.
Here ya go. Remember, Google is your friend ;D http://www.internetwines.com/rws37019.html
Arnie,
Thanks for the link, but unfortunately I live in a state that has laws designed to protect liquor retailers and wholesalers and doesn't care so much about consumers. So, I can't have any ETOH of any kind shipped in. I'll just have to wait until I travel out that way or one of the liquor stores here starts carrying it. Fortunately, there are still many more whiskeys out there for me to try in the meantime. ;D
Forgot to mention, my cold smoke adaptor just arrived yesterday thanks to Bryan who shipped it as soon as he received it at Y&P on Monday.
I picked up some Cabot Seriously Sharp Cheddar as well as their Pepper Jack to try out smoking some cheese this week.
Quote from: brewerpac on October 07, 2009, 05:13:27 PM
Arnie,
Thanks for the link, but unfortunately I live in a state that has laws designed to protect liquor retailers and wholesalers and doesn't care so much about consumers. So, I can't have any ETOH of any kind shipped in.
Well, I went part of the way through their checkout and they didn't seem to rule me out even though CT is a pretty stodgy state. But, the booze was 44.66 and the least expensive shipping was 12.95, total of 57.61. I guess you have to like the stuff. I'll sniff around my local liquor stores. If I find it at a reasonable price I'll send you a PM to see if you want it. I'm sure I could wrap it up good and label it "Farm Machinery" like they do in China. ;)
Quote from: ArnieM on October 07, 2009, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: brewerpac on October 07, 2009, 05:13:27 PM
Arnie,
Thanks for the link, but unfortunately I live in a state that has laws designed to protect liquor retailers and wholesalers and doesn't care so much about consumers. So, I can't have any ETOH of any kind shipped in.
Well, I went part of the way through their checkout and they didn't seem to rule me out even though CT is a pretty stodgy state. But, the booze was 44.66 and the least expensive shipping was 12.95, total of 57.61. I guess you have to like the stuff. I'll sniff around my local liquor stores. If I find it at a reasonable price I'll send you a PM to see if you want it. I'm sure I could wrap it up good and label it "Farm Machinery" like they do in China. ;)
Or I can just swing by the store here, get one of everything, and label it "Ball Bearings" for massive Illinois export... 8)
I like the way you guys think...
I went looking for the rye whiskey and couldn't find eather the Pikesville or the Templeton but the store said they would order in some for me if I wanted.
I did find some George Dickel though, wow $40.00 for a 750 ml is a bit pricey.
I picked up another bottle of Gentleman Jack for $30.00 insted.
Was that the George Dickel Barrel Select? My liquor store had that on sale at one point for $29 and I didn't pick up a botttle at the time and really kicked myself for not doing so.
The Geo. Dickel No. 12 goes for ~$20 and is still very nice- in fact with all of this whiskey talk, I had a small pour of it last night. Evidently, it has really improved over where it was several years ago.
If you can't find the Pikseville rye, then I recommend Old Overholt (~$12), Jim Beam (~$14), Rittenhouse (~$18), Sazerac (~$23), and Wild Turkey (~$22), all good ryes at good prices that can be either mixed or had straight up or with a little ice. The Rittenhouse, Sazerac, and Wild Turkey all produce older, more pricier ryes, but I think their basic versions can't be beat.
While I know that it may be nice to sip on a 23-yo whiskey that goes for over $150 a bottle, if you're a drinker on a budget like me, there's something particularly satisfying about having a whiskey that you love and that you only paid about $15 bucks a bottle for. It's even better when Jim Murray the whiskey guru scores your bargain whiskey a nice 92 out of 100 in his Whiskey Bible , higher than some of the high-priced boutique brands.
The George Dickel was select but, wow 40.00
Now that you mention it I did see the Old Overholt wasn't sure if I should buy as it was not on my list. I did see the Jim Beam Rye but didnt think about it as I dont care for Jim Beam to begin with. I didnt see any Wild Turkey Rye But I did see some Wild Turkey Honey that sounded good but I already had my Gentleman Jack in hand. I'm still open and will keep looking for as you stated
"A change of pace" in whiskey. I'll take a list of what you have posted and see what I can find. The old boys at the liquor store said that know one drinks Rye whiskey any more but could order some if I wanted.
Hey that Gentleman Jack was $39.00 here in canuck land. Of course we are more priveldged than you because our government beleives that if the tax us to death they will save on paying our pension and then they can hit us with the death tax. And that is on crap. >:( >:( >:(
Q, you think your government is taxing you to death. Try $51 for Jack Daniels for size. That is what we pay for it here in Jordan. I buy straight from the agent by the case and still would cost me $36 a bottle.
HR
OU812,
I bought the Wild Turkey Honey for my dad last year for Christmas and he loved it, said it was great after coming in from shoveling snow (he's 84, God bless him). It's a liqueur that I think is only about 70 proof and is obviously a blending of Wild Turkey and honey.
His reviews on a Canadian whisky- and maple syrup-based liqueur were not quite as enthusiastic. I can't remember the name of that one, it was only a 375-mL bottle. He liked it, just not as much as the WT Honey.
With the Wild Turkey Rye, which is 101 proof like the bourbon, I always find that I need a couple of ice cubes to really bring out the flavors and get past the ETOH heat, but that's just my preference.
Q and HR, ouch on those prices. When it comes to taxes, the thing that ticks me off the most as a cigar smoker is when the Feds raise the taxes on cigars then local and State governments move to severely limit where we can smoke them. I respect the rights of nonsmokers not wanting to be around when eating, in the workplace, etc, but when it gets to the point that cigar bars can't even operate and then they go after smoking in tobacco shops and even people's apartments, I tend to get a little frustrated with lawmakers. And this is coming from someone who works for a federal regulatory agency!
Okay, sorry, I'll get off my soap box now... :-X
Ok, brew, I still cant figure out what ETOH means.
I picked up a 1.75 liter JD black label for $46.00 last night, couldn't pass it by, it came with a stainless steal leather wrapped flask with the JD logo tooled in it.
I'm going on a mission tonight in Omaha to see if I can get some Rye Whiskey
Well BrewerPac you will love this one I just heard on the radio yesterday. A truckdriver in Ontario was pulled over and given a $300. fine for smoking in the workplace. It seems that a cop saw him smoking in the cab of his truck while going down the highway. Now in Canada they have band smoking in the workplace but that is stretching it to the limit.
Quote from: OU812 on October 09, 2009, 11:53:52 AM
Ok, brew, I still cant figure out what ETOH means.
Abbreviation for ethanol alcohol.
Quote from: Quarlow on October 09, 2009, 12:25:13 PM
Well BrewerPac you will love this one I just heard on the radio yesterday. A truckdriver in Ontario was pulled over and given a $300. fine for smoking in the workplace. It seems that a cop saw him smoking in the cab of his truck while going down the highway. Now in Canada they have band smoking in the workplace but that is stretching it to the limit.
I hope they don't expand that to smoke cookers!
Quote from: Quarlow on October 09, 2009, 12:25:13 PM
Well BrewerPac you will love this one I just heard on the radio yesterday. A truckdriver in Ontario was pulled over and given a $300. fine for smoking in the workplace. It seems that a cop saw him smoking in the cab of his truck while going down the highway. Now in Canada they have band smoking in the workplace but that is stretching it to the limit.
Now that is ludicrous. Unbelievable.
HR
Yeah that is close to some kind of marshall law.
You know Q, that is not just like Marshall law it is one hell of swindle.
Here we have governments that grant tobacco companies licenses to make cigarettes, tax their products through the roof and the fine the end user for smoking in public. If that is not a scam, I don't know what is.
HR
Quote from: Quarlow on October 09, 2009, 12:35:59 PM
Yeah that is close to some kind of marshall law.
Not just marshall law, but Tennessee law. If more than one person is in a company owned vehicle, smoking is banned - fine is rather steep. Technically the vehicle is supposed to have the same "no smoking" signage as a building is supposed to. You gotta know that very much tobacco is grown, sold, and processed here in Tennessee. One of our larger industries. The other recent democracktic nobel prize winner - that Gore dude, you know the one who cried because his sister died from lung cancer - well his farm and his family used to produce quite a bit of tobacco. Also has a zinc mine on the farm that is pretty darn close (measured in yards not miles) next to my favorite fishing river, that has to be polluting the river, but nobody investigates it. Technically he leases it to a large contributer to his and clinton's campaigns for reportedly almost nothing - payoff?
Amen to all of that. And KevinG, you're right about smoke cookers- I hope that they stay away and don't attempt to regulate another one of life's simple pleasures.
OU812,
Sorry about that- ETOH- medical shorthand for alcohol, as in history of alcohol abuse- H/O ETOH abuse- not talking about myself here, but with all of my recent posts about whiskey, you might think so :D. Arnie pegged it with the ethanol.
Just to keep this ETOH/alcohol thing going, I seem to remember a nice brewpub in Omaha that we ate at back in 2000 when my wife, infant son, and I were moving cross-country from Portland to Baltimore called the Upstream Brewing Company. I had a great steak there, of course.
Have you ever been there?
I might be tempted to combine my rye whiskey mission with stop by there for a pint, but on a Friday night, it might be a bit too hairy. Boy, I'm showing my domesticated middle-agedness when i'm talking about avoiding Friday-night happy hours!
But see what you can come up with the ryes. They each have slightly different tastes, but are usually divided along the lines of Pennsylvania versus Maryland style (even though almost all made exclusively in Kentucky now). While I really like Pikesville and Wild Turkey ryes, I have a buddy (a bourbon drinker for the most part, but at heart a lover of Jack Daniel's even to the point of being a member of the Tennessee Squires) who really likes the Sazerac rye, but doesn't care for the Rittenhouse.
Here's a good article from the NY Times, which, while it's from 2004, gives a good history of rye and your favorite, JD:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/17/dining/17WHIS.html
Good luck on your mission,
Coop
Thanks for the info brew, just got back from my mission and found
Old Overholt, Rittenhouse, Wild Turkey,Jim Beam and one that just had R I on the bottle. I chose the Rittenhouse, now after reading your post that your bourbon drinking buddy dont care for the Rittenhouse I wounder how I will.
Oh well I'm still going to have a nice glass of it on the rocks tonight.
As for the Pikesville, again, no luck, this store told me to try over in Iowa.
Yes I have ben to the Upstream Brewing Co. and yes they have dam good food and yes I have tried some of there micro brews but mostly the wheat and honey wheat and an amber, going to have to try an rye next time, dont much care for the ale a little to robust for my taste.
Thanks for opening my eyes on the other stuff, now that my kids are growed up I can restock my wet bar, well after I make another one. Had to get rid of it many moons ago. The wife didnt want that stuff around the kids, long story.
I think we might need a new forum people. It would have darned little to with smoking. ;D
Quote from: ArnieM on October 09, 2009, 03:43:51 PM
I think we might need a new forum people. It would have darned little to with smoking. ;D
Ya but it has to do with what we do when we are smoking. 8)
Hey OU812 and Arnie,
I think we're right on track with the direction this thread has taken. I'm trying out the cold smoke adaptor with a couple of small blocks of cheese and having a nice cold IPA right now. And now I'm about to move onto to an Octoberfest. My wife's running the Baltimore Half-marathon tomorrow so I'm doing some liquid carbo loading for her tonight. I'll need the extra calories to cheer her on tomorrow. :D After all, what do the monks call the beer they brew to drink during their Lenten fasts, but "liquid bread?"
Speaking of the better half, my wife said something tonight that I just have to share. After chuckling at me for heading right outside to get the Bradley set up as soon as I got home from work tonight, even before I got any dinner or my traditional Friday evening cocktail, she said, "I really like the smell of that smoker." Merry Christmas. I told her that was good because I'm not giving up the smoker.
OU, glad that you got the Rittenhouse. Even though my buddy doesn't like it, I do, even though it's totally different than the Pikesville. Let me know what you think. I avoided the RI just because it's a bit too expensive and I kinda like my liquor with a bit of history and tradition, not so cutting edge hip. But that's just me.
Will do brew
Heck I made a rhyme :D
Quote from: OU812 on October 09, 2009, 05:55:47 PM
Heck I made a rhyme :D
You're getting pretty good at that :D