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Smoking Techniques => Sausage Making => Topic started by: standles on October 16, 2009, 09:33:18 PM

Title: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: standles on October 16, 2009, 09:33:18 PM
All:

I have been wanting to start sausage making for a while.  I scoured this site and a couple others I found.   After much wrangling with what I needed and a budget  I got my hardware inbound.

Northern tools:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200004374_200004374
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_36989_36989
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200308623_200308623

I am now on information overload.   I figure until I get some experience I needed to stick to "kits" for first tries.  Do you have any suggestions for Summer Sausage and "slim jim" kits?

Also I know of Rytek's book and will be getting it.  But are there other books you recommend.  Nepa a scanned copy of your notebook would be great :)

Finally, where do you buy your spices "Hot hungarian paprika/Smoked paprika/fermento etc and cures for your "from scratch" recipes?

Finally,  I notice "keep internal temp to ...degree but never see any holes poked in the pictures of the sausages.  Are you probing them or just know?

Sorry for being the noob but I want to do all I can to make sure my first attempt is good so I wil continue.

Thanks, Steven

Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: Habanero Smoker on October 17, 2009, 02:21:53 AM
You may want to hold off on the meat mixer, if you are doing small batches. You may find that mixing by hand or by a stand mixer (if you have one) will be sufficient. I would try that first; you may find you do not need a meat mixer.

Here is a link to books commonly used; scroll down to the Meat Curing & Sausage Making section:
Books (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102)

Here is a link to favorite vendors:
Vendors (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110)

For sausage and curing I mainly use Sausage Maker. For spices I use mainly Penzey's, or Spices ETC.

Most use one probe in one sausage as a base line. When that sausage gets up to the correct IT, they will either take the sausage out, or use an instant read to check a few other sausages then pull them out. If you get a Thermapen (http://www.thermoworks.com/products/thermapen/tpen_home.html?gclid=CPP_o4_gw50CFZJM5Qodo0wlrw) it make the task faster, and it makes smaller holes in your sausage.
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: deb415611 on October 17, 2009, 05:42:42 AM
I also use The Spice House for spices.  The owners are related to Penzey.  The Spice House has a little more variety than Penzey's including cure   http://www.thespicehouse.com/spices/curing-salt     
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: BigJohnT on October 17, 2009, 05:50:05 AM
I'm not a sausage expert but Don't start smoking at 1pm unless your a night owl, or use the steam method to bring your sausages to the final IT if you do start in the evening. Make your first batch small like no bigger than 5 pounds as it will be your learning tool and may not be the best sausage you ever make but will most likely taste good.
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: Tenpoint5 on October 17, 2009, 06:21:28 AM
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 17, 2009, 05:50:05 AM
I'm not a sausage expert but Don't start smoking at 1pm unless your a night owl, or use the steam method to bring your sausages to the final IT if you do start in the evening. Make your first batch small like no bigger than 5 pounds as it will be your learning tool and may not be the best sausage you ever make but will most likely taste good.

I have to disagree with you Big John. It will always be the best sausage BECAUSE YOU made it!!!
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: Piker on October 17, 2009, 08:13:45 AM
Good choise of equipment it is exactly the same as I use and brought from Northern Tool. The mixer is great but I dont use it unless I have enough to fill it as it is  hard to clean it,takes about 20 min. after using it for only 15 min. Piker
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: standles on October 17, 2009, 04:08:02 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.  I can't wait for the first batch.   

I guess I will have to keep monitoring this thread to make sure I catch it when Nepa posts his notebook.  ;D
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: smokeitall on October 17, 2009, 07:05:27 PM
One of my favorite sites for getting the needed supplies for sausage is http://www.butcher-packer.com/
SIA
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: BigJohnT on October 17, 2009, 07:16:38 PM
I second the Butcher & Packer outfit... good stuff, fair price, fast shipping.

John
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: smokeitall on October 17, 2009, 07:18:18 PM
Wow your still up JT, you making some late night sausage again  ;D
SIA
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: NePaSmoKer on October 21, 2009, 06:50:47 PM
If your going to do lots of sausage get a good stuffer with metal gears.


nepas
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: BigJohnT on October 22, 2009, 04:44:25 AM
Quote from: smokeitall on October 17, 2009, 07:18:18 PM
Wow your still up JT, you making some late night sausage again  ;D
SIA

Nope, I learned my lesson well on that first batch.

JT
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: Roadking on October 22, 2009, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: BigJohnT on October 22, 2009, 04:44:25 AM
Quote from: smokeitall on October 17, 2009, 07:18:18 PM
Wow your still up JT, you making some late night sausage again  ;D
SIA

Nope, I learned my lesson well on that first batch.

JT
My first batch of Kielbasa about 15 years ago I was up around 12 midnight and fell a sleep. I was into about 6 hours of smokehouse when I lost it and woke up at 8:30 in the morning. Almost sold all my Kielbasa to the police academy as Night sticks.
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: muzzletim on October 22, 2009, 12:49:40 PM
Your getting some great advice from some really good smokers. I like to run my probe into the end of the sausage. That way you do not have a hole in your sausage that does not look to good.
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: standles on October 22, 2009, 05:14:33 PM
Thanks for the advice guys.   Stuffer and Grinder arrived today.  Iknow they were not top o line stuff but I figure if I try it and like it then I can upgrade as I go.  I agree if I become as hooked as I did on brining and smoking chicken  then I will be upgrading soon :)

I think I am going to try the Adouille (sp?) first.  That way I can do Gumbo and Jambalaya to boot.



Steven
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: drano on October 22, 2009, 05:37:13 PM
Congrats on getting into sausage making.
I get my spice mixes and casings from here:
http://www.friscospices.com/
Their summer sausage, beer brat and snack stick are excellent. 
You'll be amazed how good home made sausage is.

get smokin
drano
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: OU812 on October 23, 2009, 06:35:15 AM
Quote from: drano on October 22, 2009, 05:37:13 PM
Congrats on getting into sausage making.
I get my spice mixes and casings from here:
http://www.friscospices.com/
Their summer sausage, beer brat and snack stick are excellent. 
You'll be amazed how good home made sausage is.

get smokin
drano

I will second that, Frisco does have good spice mixes. We have an Hobart store that carey's Frisco products and every thing else you need to make sausage.

Good luck Steven
Title: Re: Guidance from the Sausage Experts?
Post by: NePaSmoKer on October 23, 2009, 08:11:51 AM
Quote from: standles on October 22, 2009, 05:14:33 PM
Thanks for the advice guys.   Stuffer and Grinder arrived today.  Iknow they were not top o line stuff but I figure if I try it and like it then I can upgrade as I go.  I agree if I become as hooked as I did on brining and smoking chicken  then I will be upgrading soon :)

I think I am going to try the Adouille (sp?) first.  That way I can do Gumbo and Jambalaya to boot.



Steven

Andouille

Good start. I have pics of mine on here somewhere  ;D

nepas