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Title: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: RAF128 on November 22, 2009, 06:55:22 PM
I made some today just to try.    They tasted OK but where did the heat go?   I don't know what happened to the heat in the Jalapenas.  There wasn't any ???.   The supply of hot peppers here is limited.   Don't know where I can find any hotter ones.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 22, 2009, 06:59:37 PM
You can always little pieces of hotter peppers and toss in the mix.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on November 22, 2009, 07:19:59 PM
Jalapeno's are that way. Some hot, some not so much. When I clean them, I like to take a slice off the end and taste it to see how hot they are. After that, I adjust by leaving more of the membrane and seeds in which will up the heat level a bit. Or  you can add some cayenne pepper to the filling to kick them up. Even some fine diced hab's works but have to be careful with those.  ;D
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: RAF128 on November 23, 2009, 07:04:06 AM
I had them in the smoker for 3 hours plus the warm up time.  they were still crunchy.   They were mild and even my wife had one and didn't complain of heat.  I'm going to check around at a few other stores to see if anyone has any habenaros.    All they had at the Safeway was jalapenos.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 23, 2009, 09:00:37 AM
Raf, I have a therory on Jala's, that i use when buying jala's.

The more pointed the end of the jala, the hotter.

The more of a rounded point, the milder.

It may be just a  belief in my head but it holds pretty true for me, but most of the jala's I get are from mexico.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: ArnieM on November 23, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: RAF128 on November 23, 2009, 07:04:06 AM
I had them in the smoker for 3 hours plus the warm up time.  they were still crunchy.   They were mild and even my wife had one and didn't complain of heat.  I'm going to check around at a few other stores to see if anyone has any habenaros.    All they had at the Safeway was jalapenos.

First - crunchy.  I usually give them about a minute in lightly salted boiling water after cleaning.  That takes some of the crunch out.

Second, I've brought home about a dozen from the same shelf in the same store.  The heat varied quite a lot between all of them.  You can do as Hawkeye suggests.  The problem is they seem to vary from pepper to pepper.

Some Habaneros or Scotch Bonnets should certainly light you up some.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: JoeHifi on November 23, 2009, 09:14:34 PM
The first two batches I did, I left the seeds and membranes in. Those were HOT.

The last batch I did were essentially castrated. All seeds and membranes removed. However for a little kick I mixed the cream cheese with some home brewed smoked hot relish. Relative to the other batches somewhat mild. Just a little bight.

As to the crunch. I have no idea how long they cook. But I keep them in the OBS until the bacon is crisp and the jalapeno flesh (skin) looks as if it had been pickled.

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2892/abts01.jpg)

Joe
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: RAF128 on November 24, 2009, 04:30:59 AM
As I said I had them in the smoker for 3 hours after I preheated the tower and the burner.   I had the temp set at 220.   I noticed that the back was nice and brown on the outside but still soft on the inside.   Therefore I guess the peppers weren't done right through.   Next time I'll turn up the heat 10 degrees and let 'em go longer.    Going to start the search for peppers later today ;).
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: pensrock on November 24, 2009, 01:37:48 PM
I do my ABT's at 230-250 degrees F. 2 to 2-1/2 hours are normally good. If you put them in hot water to soften them some, you will also lose some of the heat.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: bigredsmoker on November 24, 2009, 03:28:12 PM
I have found that the more of the membrane I leave in the hotter they are. To completely remove the heat I take all the membrane out and then was them. Then I get little to no heat for those that do not like them hot.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: pensrock on November 24, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quotehave found that the more of the membrane I leave in the hotter they are. To completely remove the heat I take all the membrane out and then was them. Then I get little to no heat for those that do not like them hot.
That is correct, most of the heat is in the membrane not the seeds like many believe.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: RAF128 on November 24, 2009, 06:16:58 PM
Today I went out and found some more peppers in a different store.    I bought jalapenas, and 1/2 dozen red chilli peppers.   Now I'm not a pepper expert by any stretch of the imagination and I don't know if those red peppers are hotter or not.   I going to take someones suggestion and taste test them before I start.   They had habenaros but in my opinion they were way too small for ABT's.    They were only about and inch and a half long.   
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 24, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
Raf, Even if they were big enough I don't think you would want to make ABT's out of Habaneros.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on November 24, 2009, 06:39:13 PM
I like to taste test all hot peppers before I use them no matter what they are being used for. It's the only sure way to know how hot they are. And yes, if I'm making a bunch of ABT's, most of them will be tasted. Then you can adjust fillings or how many to use. Good luck and I hope you get some heat from them.  ;D
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: ArnieM on November 24, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on November 24, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
Raf, Even if they were big enough I don't think you would want to make ABT's out of Habaneros.

Don't listen to CRG.  It's simple.  One hab, one beer.  Two habs tow bears.  Three habs - where was I?
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on November 24, 2009, 08:16:39 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on November 24, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on November 24, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
Raf, Even if they were big enough I don't think you would want to make ABT's out of Habaneros.

Don't listen to CRG.  It's simple.  One hab, one beer.  Two habs tow bears.  Three habs - where was I?

3 habs are OK until the next morning. Then it hurts.  :'(




Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 24, 2009, 08:36:52 PM
Quote from: HawkeyeSmokes on November 24, 2009, 08:16:39 PM
Quote from: ArnieM on November 24, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: classicrockgriller on November 24, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
Raf, Even if they were big enough I don't think you would want to make ABT's out of Habaneros.

Don't listen to CRG.  It's simple.  One hab, one beer.  Two habs tow bears.  Three habs - where was I?

3 habs are OK until the next morning. Then it hurts.  :'(






Hurts real Bad
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: ArnieM on November 24, 2009, 09:03:04 PM
I put a post up a while back.  I'm not gonna look for it.  It went something like this.

My youngest daughter and boyfriend came over.  I had done some 'standard' ABTs and a half dozen Habs.  I put 'em in the oven to reheat for some appetizers.

The boyfriend is 50/50 Italian and Puerto Rican.  Strangely (to me) he didn't care for hot food that much.  The conversation went something like this.

Try one of these.
Yeah, I'll have one of the cute little orange ones.
That's not a good idea.  Try one of the longer green ones.
Naw, they're too big.  I'll have one of the little orange ones.
(Time to get the fire extinguisher out.)
He ate one.  He sat there very composed while turning bright red with his eyes tearing.  He said "These are very good" and then abruptly left the kitchen.
I give him credit.

For reference, I think the peppers were actually Scotch Bonnets not Habs.  Nice kick though.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: classicrockgriller on November 24, 2009, 09:18:59 PM
If I have to worry about eating something one day and it hurts and then worry the next day if it's gonna hurt.....I don't eat it.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: Quarlow on November 24, 2009, 09:25:04 PM
quote (For reference, I think the peppers were actually Scotch Bonnets not Habs.  Nice kick though.)
LMAO you bugger.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: RAF128 on November 29, 2009, 07:20:04 PM
Today I made some more ABT's for the game.   A few days ago I went lookng for more peppers.   Different store.   I bought more jalapenos and some red chilli peppers.   I tasted tested before and the jalapenaos weren't that hot.   In fact there wasn't much heat at all.   I then tested the red chilli peppers.  Now, that's what I was looking for.   After they were all done I tested the red ones.   Again, where did the heat go?
A couple had a little, actually very little.   I guess all the heat from the Bradley did away with it.    Don't get me wrong.   They were tasty but little or no heat.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: Tenpoint5 on November 29, 2009, 07:29:39 PM
RAF like the boy's said if you want the heat to be hot then you should try the habanero or scotch bonnet. The Japs just loose some of their Love when smoking this way.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: HawkeyeSmokes on November 29, 2009, 07:34:04 PM
It's not the Bradley RAF. Just the way peppers are. For me, if I want to make sure they are hot, I add to the filling. Red pepper flakes, cayenne pepper or some minced hab's work well. You have to play with it to get to your taste.
Title: Re: ABT's. Where did the heat go?
Post by: ArnieM on November 29, 2009, 07:56:18 PM
I don't think the Bradley has anything to do with removing the heat.  That being said, people's tastes vary on what is hot and what is HOT.

I don't know if you did yours the 'traditional' way (cut in half and stuffed) or whole, cored and stuffed.  In any case, you can finely chop the removed ribs.  The seeds don't have much heat for me.  Then add that to the stuffing.  Or, as others have said, add more heat to the stuffing.

Open a can of chipotles.  Finely dice one chipotle and add one tsp of the 'sauce' per 12 ABTs for the stuffing.  If that don't get you going, then, yeah, it's Habanaro time.