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Title: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 01:18:33 PM
Thought I would give it a try and see what would happen.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/Misc/DSC03507.jpg)

All oiled up and seasoned with Greek seasoning.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/Misc/DSC03509.jpg)

Then dusted with the top secret coating. It's supposed to make the skin crispy but only at higher temps. I'll be doing them at 250 to see what changes it makes to poultry skin.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/Misc/DSC03510.jpg)

No, it's not flour or even corn starch. At 325 the skin is like fried, but at 250 who knows?????

We will see. Might be a two step process.
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: KyNola on December 18, 2009, 01:36:34 PM
Did you rub the hens down with that Natural Light before putting on the Greek seasoning?

KyNola
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 01:44:17 PM
Damn. You guys are good. ::)
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: squirtthecat on December 18, 2009, 01:47:44 PM

Natty Light and rice flour?
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 18, 2009, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: squirtthecat on December 18, 2009, 01:47:44 PM

Natty Light and rice flour?

uhhh ohhhh
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 02:04:25 PM
Nope. Not even close. I'll take a pic at the 1hr stage to check the progress.
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 18, 2009, 02:11:34 PM
See STC, I told you it wasn't Rice Flour. ;D :D
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 02:20:36 PM
After 1 hr they look like the skin is tightening up. Might work!

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/Misc/DSC03511.jpg)

It's magic.  ::)

Canceled out so far:
rice flour
corn starch
Natty Light

You know I will tell you if it works. If not, well, I'll improvise and throw on more heat in another cooker. So far so good but I haven't poked it yet to see if it is getting crispy.

Keep guessing.
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 18, 2009, 02:38:16 PM
cream of tartar or alum
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 02:58:34 PM
Add those to the NOT on the list pile.

I'm not seeing where it is working at these low temps after 1.5 hours. I'm calling it a failure on the crispy part and hitting it with 350 in the oven. The hens are at 134 so I think they can take about 20 minutes in the oven to set the skin. If this is the case then I can use my two temp method at comps and turn in bbq fried chicken!!!

Pics later.
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: Old_Sarge on December 18, 2009, 03:16:23 PM
pink baby birds...

it was talcum powder, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
OK. I have found a way to get crispy fried like chicken starting with the Bradley. 250 won't do it. BUT, it won't stop you from adding the smoke to what you are cooking and it WON"T stop the magic of the coating.

The coating:
http://www.miesproducts.com/breading.htm

It has flour, seasoning, and dehydrated egg whites in it. A little goes a long way!

The technique:
Season your chicken just as you normally would then sprinkle a light coating of the Mais breading mix on the chicken(also works with pork chops and beef for chicken fried steak!) Let it sit in the fridge until the coating starts to melt. Hit it with smoke for 2 hours or so at 225 to 250 until the chicken gets to 135 internal. THEN, transfer to an oven or other cooker set at 350+(I used 375) until the chicken is cooked.

What you get is a smoked chicken with crispy skin that will make you think you are eating fried chicken that has been smoked. SLAMMIN!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/Misc/DSC03512.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/ronbeaux/BBQ%20stuff/bbq%202/bbq%203/Misc/DSC03513.jpg)

Only one problem. They only sell it in 30lb batches.............
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: squirtthecat on December 18, 2009, 03:55:36 PM

Looks good, Ron!


KyNola!  Put Jan on it...



Product: All Purpose Breading (41332, 41335, 60032)
Serving Size: 100 grams

Ingredients: Enriched flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous sulfate, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin,
folic acid), salt, seasoning (monosodium glutamate, spices), eggs, defatted soy flour, nonfat milk,
soybean oil, whey.

Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: OU812 on December 18, 2009, 03:57:41 PM
Looks gooood ron real good.

Man asparagus and spinage in the same meal, your iron count should go up tonight and in the morning, hold your breath.  ;D
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 04:12:11 PM
I just got to say that this stuff did what was expected. I pushed it by trying it a lower temp but I had to try. It would be interesting to try it all the way at 350+ but I don't don't cook chicken at comps that high, I only finish them.

Experiment #2 will be to start at at 250 until it gets 2/3rds cooked, then jack to 375 which is no problem with my comp cooker, then glaze and see what effect the glaze has on the skin. My goal is to have a skin that is either crispy or bite through.

It's gonna be a fun winter leading up to the first comp in March.

Another thing I noticed was that the breading seemed to SEAL the chicken off so that when it was done it just poured out the juice. It was like it couldn't get out and I didn't even strive to make sure every surface was coated. Cool!

And NO, I don't sell it nor do I want to start.
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 18, 2009, 04:20:14 PM
I know one thing, that damn bird looks like it got deep fried. That is kewl.

Thanks for letting us in on your experiment.
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: squirtthecat on December 18, 2009, 04:24:58 PM

Yes, very very cool...   I'd love to try this on Turkey. (of course)
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 18, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Holy Crap! A turkey! Perfect! I am curing another turkey for Christmas. The last one was so moist from curing it and smoking it at 180 that I just have to try coating it and popping it in the oven to make a fried turkey texture to the skin.

Same plan as before, but when the turkey gets to about 10 or 15 degrees from being done, pop in in the oven at 400 until the internal gets to 170.

That's why I posted it here on the development page. This stuff has many possibilities! With the egg in it as a main ingredient, kind of like an egg wash on bread, you will have to get it to 350 to 375 for it to firm up. I found no adverse effects with mixing it with my seasoning of choice. I would however, be careful with the salt. Some cayenne would really kick it up a notch or two as well.

Have fun with it guys and report back any recent experiments!!
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 19, 2009, 06:37:06 AM
Ron, Does Marv sell it or did he just share?
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 19, 2009, 11:10:03 AM
He sells it but it is not listed on the web site. $3.95 per lb. I bought 2lb
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: squirtthecat on December 19, 2009, 11:20:50 AM

It looks like they have a low sodium version that might play well with our high-salt-content rubs..
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: ronbeaux on December 19, 2009, 11:50:39 AM
I was thinking that as well. The Greek seasoning is moderate on salt and combined with the Mais breading it wasn't too salty. I'm thinking a brown or turbo sugar based rub would go perfect with the regular Mais and still be low salt.

Still need to see what a finishing glaze does to the skin. Maybe tomorrow if I don't get too tore up watching dem Saints whip dem Cowboys!!

"Who Dat, Who Dat think they gonna beat dem Saints, Who dat, Who Dat!!"
Title: Re: Mini Me chickens with top secret coating
Post by: seemore on December 20, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Ronbeaux, those are a couple nice looking chickens there!
seemore