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Title: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on January 27, 2010, 05:49:11 AM
Well...  just started my own pancetta cure...  didn't want to further hijack Carnie1's thread so starting a new one.  Nothing major to report, basically doing exactly the same thing as Carnie1, following the recipe from Ruhlman's Charcuterie book.  Some initial photos:

One whole belly...
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/th_IMG_2148.jpg) (http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/?action=view&current=IMG_2148.jpg)

Trimmed & De-boned: Got a bonus baby back rack for future enjoyment and what I think is part of the tenderloin...
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/th_IMG_2149.jpg) (http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/?action=view&current=IMG_2149.jpg)

Inside and Outside, pre-cure mix:
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/th_IMG_2150.jpg) (http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/?action=view&current=IMG_2150.jpg)  (http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/th_IMG_2152.jpg) (http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/?action=view&current=IMG_2152.jpg)

All rubbed and ready for the 1-2 week cure time....
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/th_IMG_2153.jpg) (http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/?action=view&current=IMG_2153.jpg)

Into the 2-gallon Ziploc...
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/th_IMG_2154.jpg) (http://s631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/?action=view&current=IMG_2154.jpg)

More updates to follow in a week or so....!
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: OU812 on January 27, 2010, 05:55:27 AM
Looookin Gooood

Been wanting to try makin some pancetta some time, just aint got around to it.

Cant wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: KevinG on January 27, 2010, 10:55:48 AM
Boy I sure hate those TV episodes that make you wait till next week. Good thing I like pancetta, I guess I can wait.  :-\
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on January 28, 2010, 02:01:54 AM
Hey, trust me, you think YOU'RE having trouble waiting?  You don't have to look at it every time you open the fridge!!! :D
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 04, 2010, 06:45:11 AM
Well...  happy days....  1 week closer to home produced Pancetta!  (Now only 2-3 weeks to go  :()

So, pulled my belly from the cure this afternoon....  looks and smells really good:

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2165.jpg)

All rinsed and dried:

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2166.jpg)

Sprinkled with some freshly cracked black peppercorns:

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2170.jpg)

Rolled up nice and tight, ready for tying:
(Note to self, DON'T forget to square the edges off next time!! Will make for a nicer roll)

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2171.jpg)

Trussed up nice and neat, ready to hang:

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2172.jpg)

Hanging in the wine fridge @ 10oC (50oF)....  hopefully around 65% humidity:

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2175.jpg)


I considered wrapping it in a muslin stocking.... thought maybe it might prevent the ends from molding as has been reported in some other blog posts I've read on the subject, but in general most just roll and hang as is, so that's what I've done.  More updates to follow!


Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: FLBentRider on February 04, 2010, 06:56:19 AM
That is a very meaty belly you have there!
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 04, 2010, 07:18:04 AM
Yes indeed it is....  the last couple bellys I've bought from my butcher have been very lean....  and once skinned, there hasn't even been much of a fat layer on the meat.  I hope it turns out ok in spite of this...
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: carnie1 on February 04, 2010, 08:00:33 AM



QuoteI considered wrapping it in a muslin stocking.... thought maybe it might prevent the ends from molding as has been reported in some other blog posts I've read on the subject, but in general most just roll and hang as is, so that's what I've done.  More updates to follow!
I just moved my pancetta and bresola to a bigger drying cabinet, I had the bresola wrapped in muslin cause I didn't have any large casing and just last night I took it off cause it had some mold, I wiped it all off with vinegar and re wrapped with a modified casing and stockinette, so we'll see what happens. I need to figure out how to tie that hitch for sausage, can't seem to find a good tutoral on it.




               
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 04, 2010, 09:09:10 AM


Quote from: carnie1 on February 04, 2010, 08:00:33 AM
I need to figure out how to tie that hitch for sausage, can't seem to find a good tutoral on it.               

Do you mean what I did to tie up the pancetta?  If so...  I used this little video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nFQoXmpC9o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nFQoXmpC9o)


Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: oakville smoker on February 04, 2010, 09:18:18 AM
This looks AWESOME
It has become my latest obsession
I will be picking up some bellie next weekend and starting one of these

I need to learn to tie that pancetta knot too
Too many thumbs and not enough fingers !
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 04, 2010, 11:06:10 AM


Quote from: oakville smoker on February 04, 2010, 09:18:18 AM
I need to learn to tie that pancetta knot too
Too many thumbs and not enough fingers !

Yes, I'm with you....  there was a LOT of blue air in the kitchen while the tying was going on  ;).  Problem is your fingers get greasy and that makes it twice as hard to be holding the string and tying and pushing the string under it's neighbors and keeping it neat....  but hey, got there in the end!


Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 05, 2010, 11:14:51 AM
Crap.

The hygrometer I bought off eBay just arrived today, I bought it to monitor the humidity in my wine fridge....  and it's registering 85%.

It would seem to me that this is far too high to allow drying....  anyone care to weigh in?
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: KevinG on February 05, 2010, 11:40:26 AM
Although I've never made it before, I have a recipe that states you want about 60% humidity.
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 05, 2010, 11:45:38 AM
Yeah...  I've been madly reading all the blog posts I can find on the subject, and 60-65% seems to be the consensus.  Much less and the outside dries too quickly forming a barrier and the inside can spoil.  Much higher and it doesn't dry fast enough and the whole thing can go rotten.....

So...  Plan B....  hanging from the rafters of my unheated conservatory.  So far so good...  around 64% humidity and 12oC:

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/IMG_2185.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: Quarlow on February 05, 2010, 05:21:30 PM
Good thing you picked up the meter. Does your conseratory get hot in the day from the sun? That could be bad.
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 06, 2010, 10:31:37 AM
Believe me, I've been watching it quite closely today  :)

It did warm up slightly during the day, but at this time of year the sun doesn't directly hit it, and ambient temperature outside is staying under 10oC during the day.  The warmest it got today in the conservatory was just over 12oC, and it's back down to 10(ish) now.  Humidity is fluctuating between 65-70%....  so perfect IMHO.

As long as we don't have a warm streak in the next couple weeks, I'll be ok.
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: ExpatCanadian on February 18, 2010, 02:30:53 PM

Well today marked the 2 week point since I hung the pancetta up to dry.  It felt nice and firm on the outside, but still fairly soft in the middle....  but I figured it was time to get it down regardless.  In the past couple days it has just started to get a little bit of white mold on it, which I understand to be a good thing.....  but still, mold makes me a little nervous no matter what!

Anyway, a few final pics to close this thread off.  I fried up a slice and it was REALLY good.  Nothing at all like the bacon I smoked the other week...  totally different flavour but amazing.

It's now been vac sealed and is in the fridge for a couple of days to help even out the moisture content.  At the moment it's quite dry on the outside and fairly moist still in the middle.  Then I'll probably slice half of it and portion it up in vac bags and leave the other half as a chunk to slice as I need it.

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/CIMG4714.jpg)

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/CIMG4717.jpg)

(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/tdcooper/CIMG4718.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: OU812 on February 18, 2010, 03:15:10 PM
That looks damn good EC
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: Caneyscud on February 18, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
ExPat, that gets an A+ in my book.  Hope it tastes as good as it looks.  Don't worry about mold - something called country hams around here that don't get really good until aged at least a year.  Talk about looking kinda funky!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D  Surprised I haven't died from some of them!  Something to be said about a cast iron stomach seasoned and hardened by decades of jalepenos!
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: Tenpoint5 on February 18, 2010, 08:51:59 PM
ExPat that looks really tasty. Wish I had some right now.
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 19, 2010, 02:37:04 AM
This does look really good, and your bacon if perfectly fine.

Generally white mold is good, but I later learned not always the case. Using salt water or vinegar to wash away some mold is perfectly alright.
Title: Re: Another Pancetta
Post by: oakville smoker on February 19, 2010, 04:09:42 AM
Looks damn good
GREAT job !
I have two curing in the fridge right now
I want to take mine to the point where it dries out on the inside and the its more of a cold cut than a bacon
The curing process is supposed to be complete Sunday then the drying process starts