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QuoteThe gun (12-gauge shotgun) holds two 2-3/4" or 3" shells in the magazine, plus one in the chamber. The 16.5" overall length, 6.5" barrel and spring-locked foregrip, which pivots out of the way when not in use, make for a very compact package
QuoteMake sure the item you want is legal in your state. Some states ban all NFA weapons, some ban just certain types.
1.Contact a local Class 3 dealer or Class 2 manufacturer and find out what needs to be done in your state in order to purchase an NFA item.
2.Make sure you can get a sign off. This is the major snag to buying an NFA item. To complete your BATF paperwork (BATF Form 4) which transfers the NFA item to you, you'll need the signature of a local law enforcement chief. Not just a street cop, but the Sheriff, State's Attorney, etc. Said person is not required to sign the form, and in many locations around the country, won't.
3.Form a corporation. This is a loophole which gets you around the sign off. Do this ONLY if you can't get a sign off. The down side is that there are many hassles associated with forming and maintaining a corporation. Another down side is that the corporation owns the guns, you don't.
Not real practical in a shooting. I would not want to bet my life on it as I figure that at 30 feet if you hit anyone it would only tick them off. Then again strap that on your side with a belt of ammo and it becomes shades of the old West.
Definately restricted up north here. Needs to be 26" to be non-restricted. :-(
Ya might wing them at 30' but the damn flame/flash probably blind them enough
so you can run up and thunk them on the head. lol
One of my house shotguns is a Valtro PM5. 14" bbl, magazine fed. I stack 7 1/2 then
OO buck. Wing them and then finish them (Wild critters that break into house of course).
That's pretty cool... i'll bet it kicks like a mule. Perfect for home protection.
Couldn't get that one here, but it sure would be nice if I could.
After you hit someone at 30 feet, I don't think he would want to come any closer. :)
I'm thinking a 1oz slug would find its target at 30 ft no problem
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on March 13, 2010, 02:00:09 PM
I'm thinking a 1oz slug would find its target at 30 ft no problem
You know I was wondering if they could rifle the barrel. Saw a 12g with a 28" rifled barrel at the range one afternoon.
QuoteOne of my house shotguns is a Valtro PM5. 14" bbl, magazine fed.
Definitely a get out of my house gun. The one I have next to my bed is a pistol grip mossberg 500. 8 rounds total all double 00 as this house was built in 1951 and anything less other than a slug just would not go through these walls.
Insane.
My dad has a .410 pistol also chambered to take a .45 shell. My grandfather used to carry it in his coat while hunting deer. If a partridge flew buy he has the .410 handy that way. If I am not mistaken, it is called a Birdall. He is not a bonafide collector so it id illegal to possess it in Canada. Shotguns have a minimum barrel (18" I think) and overall length (26" possibly). To own a pistol (.45) the laws are even more strict.
Next to me while I sleep is my wife but on the other side I have a:
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My beat up Mossberg 12 guage, 18 inch will have to do for now, but that is reallly cool!
Cool gun!!
In Texas that is what we call a can gun.
Is that why the saying goes "We're going to get out a CAN of whoop arse"?