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Title: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 22, 2010, 12:07:05 PM
Hi,

I am re-posting this message because the original was accidentally posted in the wrong topic -- I am still learning my way around the forum -- sorry.

I have a 4-Rack BDS that my wife got me a couple of years ago.  The other day I fired up the smoker and I noticed an E error blinking on the display and the puck feeder continuously running.  When I turned off the smoke generator the error went away and I was able to cook my ribs, but without smoke.

I checked the forum and learned that this error can  be caused by the feeder arm not making contact with the micro switch to turn off the motor.

This morning I opened the generator, prepared to adjust the motor.  First I plugged in the unit (just the AC cord) and watched the feeder arm rotate and could see that it WAS making good contact with the micro switch.

I unplugged the unit and ran a continuity check on the micro switch and it appeared to be operating normally (contact was closed when button depressed).

Unfortunately, that is the extent of my knowledge regarding the unit.  I continue to get the E error and I have no idea why.  I was suppose to cold smoke some pork chops today, but I guess that will have to wait.

Can anyone out there help me with this problem?  Could it be that the problem is with the heating element?  (I know, that does not explain the motor continuously running.)  Is the problem in the electronics attached to the bottom of the generator (the wires from the micro switch is connected to this unit)?

I appreciate any advice as to solving this problem.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

--allanr
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: classicrockgriller on May 22, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Here is a link to the FAQ's.

http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?488-Answers-To-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=839#post839

Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 22, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
Thank you classicrockgriller.

I reviewed the FAQs regarding What is an E message.  I did everything the answer suggested, and since this did not work, I guess it is time to write to Bradley Technical Support.

Thanks again, for your response.

Sincerely,

--allanr
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 22, 2010, 12:29:43 PM
To get by today, you can fire up the generator and place pucks on the burner by hand every 20 minutes or so....much more babysitting than you would normally do, but can be done to get by until the problem is figured out.

edit:  By the way, use a tongs or pair of gloves to prevent burning yourself, if you do take this route.
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Mr Walleye on May 22, 2010, 12:36:26 PM
Also... if you have an air compressor you could try blowing out the micro switch. It soulds like it may be sticking.

Monday is a holiday here in Canada (Bradley's Head Office Location) but on Tuesday just give them a phone call and they will get you fixed up.

Mike

PS

Also try to unplug and re-plug the wiring to the micro switch a few times in case it's just a bad connection.
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 22, 2010, 12:37:23 PM
Tiny Tim,

I thought of that and left the unit plugged in with the smoke generator turned on for a while.  When I (carefully) checked the smoke heater it was still cold.  I figure with the E message flashing the heater won't heat up.  Otherwise there is more to the problem than I am aware of.

Thanks anyway.

--allanr
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 22, 2010, 12:42:31 PM
Mike,

Thank you for your suggestion.  I did reconnect the micro switch and when I did a continuity check, the switch appeared to work fine, i.e. no sticking.

I am now leaning towards a problem with the electronics and will try to contact Technical Support, as suggested in FAQs.  Unfortunately, I cannot find an e-mail address for Bradley Technical Support on their website.  I guess I will have to call them Tuesday.

Thanks again.

--allanr
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Mr Walleye on May 22, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Allan

Here is Brian's email address at Bradley. He's a great guy and frequents the forum here as well.

[email protected]

Mike
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 22, 2010, 12:51:16 PM
Than you, Mike.

I will e-mail him and await a reply.

In the meantime, I'll cook the pork chops on my small Weber Grill with some wood chunks.

Thank you all for your ideas and suggestions.

Sincerely,

--allanr
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Mr Walleye on May 22, 2010, 12:57:58 PM
No problem Allan. Make sure you let us know what the problem and solution was. It will probably help someone else out down the road.

Mike
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Habanero Smoker on May 22, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
Did you check to make sure all the wires are securely connected? Since the bisquette burner is cold, it may not be properly connected or bad. A loose wire to the bisquette burner will make the unit act unpredictably, also a faulty burner will do the same.
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 22, 2010, 03:15:20 PM
Habanero Smoker,

I did unplug and re-plug all of the connectors.

However, the situation has changed.  I put the cover back on the generator and and got comfortable with a book.  Then I looked at the smoker and said, 'what the heck' and then proceeded to plug in all of the cables.  I turned the smoke unit on and sure enough the E message appeared with the puck feeder working continuously, but I left the unit plugged in.

Eight minutes later I felt the heater and it was still cold, so I went back to my book.  A minute went by when I heard a click and noticed that the puck feeder stopped.  I felt the heater and I could feel it getting warmer and the temperature indicator was showing 65 deg.

I decided to get out my pork chops and prepare them for smoking.  When I checked the smoker again there was an E-1 message flashing on the oven heater side of the display.  I have learned that this is a result of the connection from the thermostat sensor to the generator.  I reconnected the connecting cable and the E-1 error disappeared.

The smoker is smoking away, although I am feeding the pucks in manually right now -- I don't want to jinx the unit.  After I cold smoke the pork chops I'll check to see if the unit is back to working normally.

I still do not understand why it all of a sudden began working.  The only thing I can think of is a sensitive connection somewhere.

Thanks all.

--allanr

P.S. Mr. Habanero Smoker, does your handle indicate you like to smoke hot peppers?  If so, I would like to learn more about that.
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: classicrockgriller on May 22, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Glad you are up and running, ok at least walking. ;D

Sometimes it helps to wipe those sensor connectors
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Bradley (Head Office) on May 22, 2010, 04:47:01 PM
Hello Allan

I replied to the email you sent me.
I will post my reply here as well


Your micro switch could be sticky even testing it with a meter can give you a false reading because you are depressing the button with your finger this action depresses it further than the arm on the motor will
I would start by getting some electrical contact cleaner and spray it inside the switch by the black button also use the same spray at the wire connection, smoke can cause the connections to loose connectivity and the switch to become sticky.

When the smoker is showing a E or an E-1 error the burners will not heat up this is all part of the safteys built into the smoker.

On your sensor cable use a little super fine sand paper or some steel wool to clean the ends of the cable, as well spray some of the contact cleaner inside the sensor cable plugs to clean them as well.

Give these a try and see if they help

Brian
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Habanero Smoker on May 23, 2010, 01:26:45 AM
I hope Brian's help got you up and going.

Pensrock is the person you need to speak with about drying any type of pepper. Habanero Smoker is my play on words for Hot Smoker.
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: allanr on May 26, 2010, 12:02:56 PM
First off, I want to thank you all for your suggestions and ideas, and especially Brian.

It took me a few days to get some contact cleaner, but I was finally able to clean the various contacts inside the generator and also the cable from the thermostat.

I am happy to say that everything is working fine, again.

Thank you, again.  If I ever have any questions about the smoker or smoking, I will definitely come back to this forum.

Sincerely,

Allan

P.S.  I will do some research on drying peppers and will contact Pensrock if I have questions.

Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: jefflouella on March 13, 2011, 09:17:05 AM
I know this thread is old, but I just got my DBS. I seasoned it for about 2 hours yesterday. I prepared all my meat last night and had it ready to go 7am this morning. I turned on the smoker and got the "E" error. I couldn't figure out what to do until I got to this post and saw Brian's response.

Since the smoker was brand new I had reservations opening up the digital box. I did open it up and sprayed the button. That didn't work. When I pressed the button by hand, the pucks would stop, so the button worked. It seemed the arm wasn't pressing the button in enough. It was only a millimeter off. So I loosened up the screws to the arm and tighten again while pushing the arm closer to the button. That seemed to do the trick.

I saved my first smoke day with the DBS. I am 4 hours into the smoke and still working awesome.

Just thought I would respond to this older thread just for people searching online for a similar solution.
Title: Re: E Error with BDS 4-Rack
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 13, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
Hi Jeff;

Welcome to the forum. Glad everything turned out alright.

You can also find that solution plus many other tips by clicking on the below link.

Bradley FAQ's (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?481-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=748#post748)

Plus more:

Recipes (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?180-Our-Time-Tested-and-Proven-Recipes)