Hey Gents, So I am wondering if some of you have a suggestion for how to do a Sugar Cured Ham. I have ordered a Ham Hook from Butcher Packer, so it will be here this week. I am just wondering what to do with the ham? Recipe wise what would be good? What type of Wood to hit it with first thing that comes to mind is Apple, but I was thinking that maybe something like Pecan would be cool also.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
Are you going to cure your own ham (from fresh pork) or smoke an already cured ham?
Sorry that was not clear I guess. I have a Va Sugar Cured Ham, that I want to now smoke. So its already sugar cured, and I want to smoke it. So should I hit it with some sort of marinade or just rub it, kinda lost.
Quote from: FLBentRider on June 26, 2010, 11:13:24 AM
Are you going to cure your own ham (from fresh pork) or smoke an already cured ham?
I think "Sugar Cured" answers your question FLB ;D
I might put 2-3 hours of maple on it at a cabinet temp of 200 or so until the IT hits about 145.
So no real need to season it then, just let it go as it is?
Quote from: waterkc on June 26, 2010, 11:52:37 AM
So no real need to season it then, just let it go as it is?
I've done a couple cheap shank hams from the store, and I pat them dry (as dry as you can, since they are packed in water) and put some mustard or EVOO and a light rub on it. Nothing too salty.
Makes for some awesome smoked ham and beans...
If the ham has skin on, score it. Cook fat side up.
I'm with squirt on the "no salt" thing. If you really want a glaze, I'd use brown sugar or maple syrup and dry mustard. I'd wait until the IT was up to about 110 before putting it on or you'll have a really black ham.
I mentioned an IT of 145. That's assuming the ham is cooked. If not, I'd go for 155-160.
The ham has a lot of water so keep the vent wide open to get rid of the moisture.
Need some more details on that ham. All of the Virgina sugar cured hams I know of are the mild versions of country hams that are fully cured and most commonly hickory smoked. Can you tell us a bit more about the ham, like where did it come from, are there any cooking instructions, etc.?
He Lads,
So the ham is from Blacksburg Va, it stated that it was a Sugar Cured Air Dried (aka no smoking), still has the skin on it, weights about 15 - 18 lbs. Only instructions are to wash ham and scrub with a brush, trim any mold off and soak for 24 hours in cold water. Then Pretty much do with it what ya like.
I am thinking the maple and mustard sounds good. Maybe with some Garlic\Onion type stuff, maybe.
Thanks
Ok, that is a 'country ham'. Just with sugar added to the cure to mask the saltiness..
OK cool, got it country ham, any suggestion on marinade?
I am thinking that Maybe Mojo might be good, get some beans, rice etc, O man.
Does it by chance say "fully cooked" or anything similar ? Can you give us the brand? Is it Turner by chance ( they are one of the few producers on that side of the state)?
Without any more information and based on your description of skin on and the scrub instruction my guess is you have a fully cured but uncooked ham. If so, that thing needs to be cooked to an IT of ~ 160 °F. Traditionally the cooking (either braise or bake) is done skin on, then remove the skin and glaze. The most common method from the region to braise it to an IT of ~ 160, then glaze. If you want to smoke/bake it you surely can do that, but you will probably want to soak it a bit before smoking. Since nobody knows what the cure is (was) it's hard to say how long you should soak. Bake/smoke/cook at ~ 250 to an IT of 160-165. You might consider a scrub, braise, trim to remove the skin and excess fat, then smoke/glaze for flavor.
This is just my opinion - did one of those once; expensive.
I'd soak for 48 hours in a cooler with ice. Change the water twice a day. Yeah, it's a pain.
It's a quality ham. I would not use any marinade.
You said it's skin on. Score it. From Alton Brown, get a clean utility knife. Set the blade out about 1/4 inch. That will get you through the skin and into the fat but not into the meat.
Put your rub/paste on when you think you have another half hour or so to go.
I'll be curious to see how this goes.
So I am going to try to find out more about it, I didn't see anything that stated fully cooked. So I am going to assume that it needs some cooking. I think I will put it on in the Morning and smoke it for a long time. Its been soaking in the sink for almost 24 hours. So Once I get that all dried off and scored I will send some pick's. I am going to read the bag it came in again, but I am sure it said nothing about being fully cooked.
Thanks guys.
You're probably right - if it was cooked it would say so on the bag. If you've been soaking for 24 hrs it has been well soaked - pull it, dry it, and keep refrigerated until ready to cook. Traditionally, smoking is done with the skin on and intact. The smoke won't penetrate very much, but that's typical. If you score the skin, be prepared to deal with removing all the little pieces when done. Then after the smoking/cooking to IT 160, then glaze it. Should be good!
Should be some Pig Candy when you are done.
I'm watchin also.
Love it!
Alrighty then, Ham is smoked baby.
So I got my hooks and such from butcher packer yesterday. I then picked up some cotton string to make a noose, preheated the DBS to 260° and preheated the smoker generator, put in my new 13x9 water pan full of water.
Now into the house to get that piggy tie'd up and on a hook. Once that was done, umm yeah how the hell am I going to hang this thing. O yeah I got some hardwood chairs that are trashed, steal a back slat and make a hanger. ;) ok check. DBS setup, ham ready, smoke-genny, water pan, temp probe, ok all good to go.
10:30PM PDT set him in DBS and set the temp to DBS to 220° smoke-genny to 5 hours (with Maple) and DBS to 9:40hrs @ 220°. Got up at 3:30 to a lot of smoke ( :o ), o man the pucks piled up in the water pan and was still smoking a bit. shook the pan and its all good. whew. Went to work at 5:00am and checked the Piggy, right at 160°. Shut off smoker left in cabinet, wife will get it for me at 7:00 and put in fridge. When I get home I will clean the ham and make a nice sweet and spicy glaze for it, put it on the grill for about 20 mins then crave up and enjoy with some friends this weekend.
Here is how it looked at 0500hrs PDT (approximately 5 hours of smoke and 7 to 8 hours of total temp)
(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx247/waterkc/Maple%20Smoked%20Ham/DSC_0052.jpg)
Will report how it taste's
Thanks for all the help.
That is a feast waiting to happen!! That looks mawvelous!
Great work ! Looks perfect!
Very nice looking ham and good use of a broken chair too!
Looking good so far!
ok so one question I didn't ask. How do I dress this monster now that its done? Remove the skin I would assume but if some one could enlighten me that would be great.
Thanks
That's about t - remove the skin, trim excess fat (leave a bit all over), then glaze. For glazing you can do the diamond cross cuts in the fat and then stud with closes. If you want real fancy, you an add pineapple slices on the top as part of the glazing. Now that it's cooked it's mostly decorative with the glazing adding a flavor accent, like the bark on barbecue.
All I can add to what BLSH said is to "slice and eat"! Maybe add a cherry to the center of each pineapple slice so the PICS have a little more color? ;D That ham looks yummy!
So that is the ticket I am all over it. Thanks fella's Picks to follow.
I think BLSH meant Cloves instead of "closes"
Quote from: FLBentRider on June 30, 2010, 07:14:02 PM
I think BLSH meant Cloves instead of "closes"
If He is kin to Arnie ..... He meant closes! ;D
Quote from: classicrockgriller on June 30, 2010, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: FLBentRider on June 30, 2010, 07:14:02 PM
I think BLSH meant Cloves instead of "closes"
If He is kin to Arnie ..... He meant closes! ;D
I do not put put "closes" on my ham. They're seriously hard to find these days.
But, maybe Eric IS my long lost brother. Between him and cousin Quarlow I'd have a FAMILY. What a
dreadful interesting idea.
I did mean cloves, thanks FLBR.
In Arnie's case it would be clothes, or more exactly her clothes, probably after removing them from the fan (remember Arnie, we have pictures). I just can't figure out how he "studs" a ham with them, but that's one of those things I don't want to know.
CRG, I thought we were friends. Guess that shows what happens when I think.
Quote from: BuyLowSellHigh on June 30, 2010, 10:27:23 PM
I did mean cloves, thanks FLBR.
In Arnie's case it would be clothes, or more exactly her clothes, probably after removing them from the fan (remember Arnie, we have pictures). I just can't figure out how he "studs" a ham with them, but that's one of those things I don't want to know.
CRG, I thought we were friends. Guess that shows what happens when I think.
;D ;D ;D I said "IF" ... please check on the Cabrito! I'll use spell check next time. ;D
Okay, guess I missed the fine print.
Will be checking today and will let you know.