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Title: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 07, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
Looked for an opportunity at Costco today but came up empty...the local supermarket came through with two butts, a 10.5 and a 8.5 pounder.  The plan is to smoke them up this weekend...feeding 15 or so adults.

I'm hoping for a lunchtime gathering...so I'm thinking about starting both in my bradley portable smoker (BPS) at noon on Friday.  I'm hoping they'll finish by 9am the next morning for some FTC...or should I start earlier?  The 10.5 pounder scares me a little...

I've also never done the overnight smoke...I'm tempted to leave one butt out overnight and throw the other in the oven in foil...

Any advice?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: FLBentRider on September 08, 2010, 03:26:10 AM
I've done plenty of overnight smokes, most with twice that load.

There have been a few butts (not mine) that take 24 hours, most are 18-20

I think the 9am start is fine.

You will find varying answers opinions here as far as IT.

I take them to 190-200F but you can go as low as 180F
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: Caneyscud on September 08, 2010, 05:21:29 AM
Goose
You sound like you have a great plan.  Be sure to have a good cooler handy to stick them babies in when the get "done".  I'm with FLBR with the ending IT.  Never cooked on a BPS, but don't see why the 21 hours you have planned shouldn't be sufficient.  Did a few in a stickburner recently that took in the 1 to 1.5 hour per pound range, but I couldn't get the heat down to less than 250.  The 1.5 to 2 hour per pound you have planned is just perfect for my Bradley set at 225 though.  I've had one "butt from H E double hockey sticks" go for significantly more than 2 hours per pound - but that was an anomaly.  What CT are you planning for?  The lower you go, the slower they cook.  225 is about right in my book.  With 200 the time will be longer. 
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: KyNola on September 08, 2010, 06:41:58 AM
FLBR is the King of Butts as far as I'm concerned.  Go with what he tells you and you can't go wrong.  As for finishing in your house oven, I have done that many many times and like it as I think I can control the heat better there.

Have fun and let us hear all about it.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: Tenpoint5 on September 08, 2010, 06:47:16 AM
Quote from: KyNola on September 08, 2010, 06:41:58 AM
FLBR is the King of Butts as far as I'm concerned.  Go with what he tells you and you can't go wrong.  As for finishing in your house oven, I have done that many many times and like it as I think I can control the heat better there.

Have fun and let us hear all about it.

FLBR does do a lot of Butts in his smoker but I don't think he had his coffee yet this morning. 9 am start WILL NOT get you done in time for a lunch date. I think he ment the noon start.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: FLBentRider on September 08, 2010, 08:15:29 AM
I hadn't had a lot of coffee, but...

24 hours is plenty for 2 butts, IMHO.

This is my last BPS butt cook:

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=17242.0

I put them in late afternoon, one was done by like 8am.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: TestRocket on September 08, 2010, 09:12:32 AM
I see some good advice above so all I can add is good luck!
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: DTAggie on September 08, 2010, 08:51:37 PM
Noon at the latest to start, what is your ambient temp where you are?
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: hal4uk on September 08, 2010, 09:12:35 PM
Goose, get em up to 195°, wrap em tightly in foil, wrap in towels, and stuff in a cooler (with some extra towels on top).
The FTC time will really do some extra magic, so your timing sounds good... 
Should be done in 18 hours, and that gives you 6-ish hours of FTC if all goes well... 
If they're "stubborn", you should still get some decent FTC time.
Remember, you still have to pull it and serve it, and worry about normal non-smoking stuff, like "do we have enough ice?", etc.

However, don't start LATER THAN NOON.

Extra FTC time is a just a bonus....  Not being "done" on time... with company coming... is a... "NOT-bonus".
Awrighten.

Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: DTAggie on September 09, 2010, 09:00:53 AM
Strong Second on Hal's comment!
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 09, 2010, 08:40:18 PM
The ambient temps during the day are in the low 80s and at night, dipping into the low 50s.  I had the BPS going the weekend before last and had no issues keeping it at 225F.

I'll start at 9 or 10 tomorrow morning, and see how it goes. Will post some results later.

Anyone know how much gas I'll use up for a smoke like this? I'm using a 20 lb tank on a conversion but I don't really know how much gas is in the tank. Feels about half full.

Cheers
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: DTAggie on September 09, 2010, 09:06:18 PM
Whooo didn't catch you were using a BPS.  Have no experience with that.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 10, 2010, 07:24:48 AM
Alright, let's get to posting a few pics.

Here's the butt's as they came to me, from the local supermarket.
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/76/176/3/79/20/2355379200084270585xBWVZE_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2355379200084270585xBWVZE)

Then covered in some CYM and Memphis Dust...
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/83/83/0/92/1/2055092010084270585HsYaUm_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2055092010084270585HsYaUm)

I put the two butts on the top and third racks in the BPS, leaving the very bottom rack empty.
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/83/83/4/29/1/2402429010084270585YdkcAF_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2402429010084270585YdkcAF)

I only had one digital remote thermometer so I stuck it in the bottom butt, or the 10.5 pounder.  The lighter one, at 8.5 pounds, I jabbed in a regular old' fashioned one.
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/87/87/2/57/52/2517257520084270585BxmDbb_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2517257520084270585BxmDbb)

Stuck my grill thermometer in the side, right in the middle, to see if I can get a read on the "cabinet" temperature.  The air temp at the moment is 60 degrees.
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/76/176/5/32/10/2733532100084270585xJgGMA_th.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2733532100084270585xJgGMA)

And let the wait begin...
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: Tenpoint5 on September 10, 2010, 07:38:02 AM
It will be well worth the wait for sure!
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: Caneyscud on September 10, 2010, 08:52:39 AM
Ohhh, the wait

excruciating!
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 10, 2010, 11:36:04 AM
Okay...so we started the smoke at 8am, which was about 4 hours ago I'd say. All the briquettes have cycled thru so I'm at about 4 hours if smoke, more or less. Is that enough or shall I add more smoke?

The ambient temp has risen to about 75 degrees and subsequently my cabinet temp has risen to 255...so I've turned down the main burner some.

Internal temp on the probe reads 162...is that high after j ust 4 hours?

Goose
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: FLBentRider on September 10, 2010, 11:39:20 AM
I would just turn off the bisquette burner, unless you need the heat. Empty / refill water bowl

162F sounds a little high for 4 hours, either your probe is in a fat pocket, or your cooking temp is higher than you think.


Are you measuring the cabinet(bag?) temp above or below the meat? If you have 255F above the meat, turn the burner down some.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 10, 2010, 01:38:29 PM
Thanks FLBR.

You're right - I was in a fat pocket.  I reprobed right into the side the the temp dropped right down to 154F.

Will I have to rotate racks at all?  (move the larger butt to the top rack and the smaller one to the bottom rack)
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: FLBentRider on September 10, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
I'd check the temp of both, and if they're close I'd leave them where they are.

If you put the smaller one on the bottom it will be done sooner, and delay the larger one.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: DTAggie on September 10, 2010, 09:01:09 PM
Don't fret, you are right on target
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 10, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
15 hrs in and we're at 175F (Butt on the lower rack).
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: classicrockgriller on September 10, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
Bring that Butt on Home!

Butt for Breakfast with scrambled eggs, and toast, and figs.
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: DTAggie on September 10, 2010, 10:39:25 PM
Wish someone would bring a big juicy butt to my home
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: classicrockgriller on September 10, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: DTAggie on September 10, 2010, 10:39:25 PM
Wish someone would bring a big juicy butt to my home

That would make two butts in one house!

I think the Pork Council would frown on that. ;D
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: DTAggie on September 11, 2010, 08:09:47 PM
Funny CRG.  How did they turn out?
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: goosevr1 on September 16, 2010, 02:27:16 PM
They turned out fantastic - they hit 194F at 5am, which is when I groggily put them in FTC until about 11:30am, at which they were at 160F.  Pulled great and had a whole butt leftover...been eating it every day with my other half still.  Almost out of buns...  :)

Sorry..didn't take any pics at 5am...
Title: Re: Double Butt this Weekend - Timing
Post by: Carter on September 16, 2010, 02:51:15 PM
That was a good read.

Glad it turned out successful.

Carter