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Title: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on September 28, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
OK well now that I got the Bradley and have used it a few time I would like to try and do a brisket this weekend. What are some good tips in doing a great brisket. I know you will want a bit of fat on it, but any other ideas would be gr8.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on September 28, 2010, 06:07:57 PM
Go to our recipe site, and look at WTS Brisket and Brisket Pachanga.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: GusRobin on September 28, 2010, 06:24:27 PM
plan about 2 hrs per lb and at least 2 hours of FTC in your planning.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on September 28, 2010, 06:43:32 PM
Make sure you get one with some fat on it, not one of those "market trimmed" ones.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on September 28, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
 ???  ??? ???Ok stupid qoestion what is FTC??? ??? ???
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: GusRobin on September 28, 2010, 07:01:42 PM
(there are no stupid questions on this forum - so ask away)

After it reaches your desired internal temp (IT), take the brisket and wrap in Foil; wrap that in a Towel; put in a Cooler (one that has been at least room temp -no ice) thus FTC.
Some spritz with liquid (beer, wine, apple juice, whatever) before putting in foil. Let it sit in the cooler for a while at least an hour. It can be longer, some have kept it for 4-5 hrs. It lets the juices settle, gives you a pad if it is done early- FTC it until ready to serve. It also works if you are cooking at home and then have to take to someone's house. If a cooler is not available you can stick it in the microwave ( don't turn it on). I also like to stuff newspaper at the bottom of the cooler, and on the top of the toweled meat as an added insulator.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on September 28, 2010, 07:05:44 PM
As FLBR suggested, check the recipes he recommended.  They are two different styles and both are good, just different.

The one thing I would add is get a good quality whole brisket to start.  Brisket is a challenging piece of meat.  For your first stack the deck in your favor and get a good one. Only the best (and some of them, not me, are regulars in these forums) can take a poor brisket and have it come out as really good.  I prefer them in the 10-12 lb range as whole briskets, USDA Choice or Certified Angus Beef (aka CAB); I avoid USDA Select, which happens to be the common grocery store variety these days in the local TX mega marts.  What you can get will depend to a good degree on where you're located.  In TX every grocery store has whole "packer trimmed" briskets in the cryopac.  When I was in CO this summer I was checking out the meat case at the local Safeway - what they had as a whole packer brisket was in a cryopac, but it was a well trimmed flat at about 5 lbs average weight.  If what you find has been repacked in a store pack (foam tray and shrink wrap), it likely is a well trimmed piece of a whole.  If you have a good butcher nearby, this is a good opportunity to use him/her.  If no butcher and you don't see a true whole brisket in the case, talk to the head meat cutter and tell him what you are looking for.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on September 28, 2010, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: camoghost on September 28, 2010, 06:49:23 PM
???  ??? ???Ok stupid qoestion what is FTC??? ??? ???

Like GusRobin said, no stupid questions except the one you wanted ask but didn't.

These forums use a lot of acronyms.  On the Recipe site there's list decoded here:
http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?488-Answers-To-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=766#post766
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on September 28, 2010, 07:28:29 PM
OK THANKS TO YOU ALL, you have helped allot. I do have a meat market close by and will have to visit them tomarrow. After reading the 2 recipes that was saggusted I thank I will try the WTC brisket. What would be a good (IT) to go with out of the smoker and out of the oven., the recipe said he really don't go for a temp but he would guess 190-205. What do you thank and thanks aging. I'll try to do pic's as I try this. It will probably be on Saturday.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: GusRobin on September 28, 2010, 08:26:12 PM
I  go about 185 -190 then FTC.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on September 29, 2010, 02:59:33 AM
Quote from: camoghost on September 28, 2010, 07:28:29 PM
OK THANKS TO YOU ALL, you have helped allot. I do have a meat market close by and will have to visit them tomarrow. After reading the 2 recipes that was saggusted I thank I will try the WTC brisket. What would be a good (IT) to go with out of the smoker and out of the oven., the recipe said he really don't go for a temp but he would guess 190-205. What do you thank and thanks aging. I'll try to do pic's as I try this. It will probably be on Saturday.

For WTS's recipe, which is a braise or boated finish, the temp out of the smoker is not important, so long as you don't overcook it. Just use the smoker to put on the smoke and start the cooking, then into the pan and finish in the oven.  It's a time thing in the smoker.  One cautions - once you add the liquid, close the pan and put it in the oven it will cook faster and even with the liquid can easily be overcooked.  Even with the liquid in a closed pan you can get a very dry brisket from overcooking.  That's the time to use IT as a guide and check for tenderness as the temp comes up.  Don't overdo it and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on September 29, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
OK to my disappointment I have to wait a while before I can do my brisket. After reading the recipe over I missed the (wet aging) part, so I must wait a few days. OK here's my next question. What side is best top put up when in smoker and in house oven or dose it matter? I would thank cap up but that would just be my guess. I got a packer brisket 7.75lbs, is a USDA choice Angus pride a good cut to use? Hope so cause that was what I got. Well since I cant do my brisket I guess I will have to go set in my deer stand for a bit since bow seasson opens on the 1st of Oct, how important is it the aging and how long is the 2 weeks necessary.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on September 29, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
I don't do the wet aging part. Mine turn out fine.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: Pachanga on September 29, 2010, 08:08:35 PM
I wet age when it is convenient, do not if in a hurry.

Like FLB says, it'll be fine either way.

Pachanga
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: classicrockgriller on September 29, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
If you have an Angus Brisket, that thing is begging to get smoked.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on September 29, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
Don't worry about the wet aging, and unless you know the meat packers packing date you're playing with fire.  Just cook it.

Which side up or down is a topic of hot debate.  I prefer the fat cap towards the higher heat source.  When naked in the Bradley if a single brisket fat cap down facing the heating element.  If two or more the top one goes fat cap up.  In a covered pan in your home oven either way is about the same.

USDA Choice Angus is a great start, and I like your size, means a younger animal which is always better for tender.

Good luck, keep us posted, and we LOVE pics.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on September 30, 2010, 05:01:52 PM
GOOOOOOOOODD sounds great I am going to start working on it soun as i get some stuff done here.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: SouthernSmoked on September 30, 2010, 05:55:44 PM
Everything sounds awesome and it looks like a lot of great advice...

Good luck and remember we like pic's.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on September 30, 2010, 07:23:59 PM
Well here we go cut rubed and sealed for a nights rest before the smoker. hop i do the pics right. haveing trouble with pics
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 01:12:25 PM
lets see if this works(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb331/camoghost77/smoker/brisket003.jpg)
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 01:16:09 PM
need to make smaler but now its rubbed and ready to seal(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb331/camoghost77/smoker/brisket005.jpg)
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 01:26:57 PM
getting ready  (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb331/camoghost77/smoker/brisket006.jpg)
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 01:28:15 PM
need to make them smaller whats the easy way to do that
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on October 01, 2010, 02:27:40 PM
Bend it up. Kind of like a wrinkle in the middle.

It will shrink as it cooks.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: Pachanga on October 01, 2010, 02:42:43 PM
So your brisket doesn't fit - solution here
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=13080.0

Pachanga
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 02:49:20 PM
no I meant the pic's so the fit the post better.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on October 01, 2010, 04:31:05 PM
LOL - the pictures not the meat. got it.

You can do it several ways.

1. At the source - chance the pic size on the camera to "web/email" - like 640x480. I have an older camera that doesn't take memory cards, it has a small internal memory - it's the "food cam"

2. On your PC - most photo management software will allow a resize.

3. When you upload to photobucket, you can choose the size somewhere in the upload dialog. Be aware this is the least efficient, since you have to upload a big pic to make it small.
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
thanks for the tip on pic's size. My brisket has been "boating" in the oven for about 3hrs and is at a I.T of 183 when it hits 190 its headed for a little F.T.C 
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on October 01, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
You could pull it any temp between 185 and 190 - if the probe slides in easy, its ready for FTC
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 06:02:19 PM
well I thank its time for FTC what do you thank  (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb331/camoghost77/smok003.jpg)
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: camoghost on October 01, 2010, 06:03:34 PM
well that size change didnt work have to try plan b
Title: Re: want to try a brisket
Post by: FLBentRider on October 01, 2010, 06:04:04 PM
I think I'd eat a slice or two of that!