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Smoking Techniques => Cold Smoking => Topic started by: Seahawk on December 05, 2010, 11:37:50 AM

Title: cold smoking questions
Post by: Seahawk on December 05, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
Hi,everyone.I have a couple questions?
first im doing some smoked cheese and normaly i like to be around 70degrees when doing cheese, however today seems to be a cold windy day and i seem to only get my burner temp up to 60degrees with the vent almost shut, is it ok to keep the vent almost closed or will the cheese sweat?and is 60degrees a ok temp or does it need to be warmer for the smoke to penetrate?
Thank you and happy holidays.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: KyNola on December 05, 2010, 11:58:03 AM
I think the smoke will probably penetrate OK at 60 degrees but I'll yield to the guys who smoke a lot of cheese.  Pens, you out there?  I'll yield to them when it comes to the vent as well but if it were me, the vent would be open.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: classicrockgriller on December 05, 2010, 12:02:55 PM
It has been stated that the best temp for smoke penetration on cheese is around 80*.

60* might not be too cool but you may want to add a little more smoke time to it.

I would keep the vent open at least 1/4 +.

In the FAQ on the recipe site there is a section on vent position.

http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?481-Bradley-Smoker-FAQ-s&p=748
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: KyNola on December 05, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
If you're concerned about the tower temp being too low, kick the heating element on and then shut it down again or I have run the heating element and cracked open the door on the tower.  Yes, you will lose some smoke but there will be plenty for the cheese.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: Seahawk on December 05, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
Thank you i appreciate the responses,another reason why this forum is so great.
Happy Holidays.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: pensrock on December 05, 2010, 04:01:49 PM
Are you using a cold smoke setup? if so put the smoke generator back into the tower and the heat from it will warm up the tower. I would not close the vent any more than 1/2 way. You can also do like Larry said, turn the heat one for a few minute then shut it back off. I like to do cheese 80-95 F.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: Up In Smoke on December 05, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
Seahawk,
as you may have gathered there will be many different techniques and personal preferences for smoking cheese.
the good thing is you get to try them all and choose the one that works for you.
i like a light smoke on my cheeses, 20 to 40 minutes at the most.
as far as smoking temps i like to be in the 35 to 55 degree range, smoke generator hooked to the tower
vent wide open and the door cracked the width of a puck. (this will keep the cheese from releasing oils or sweating, creating more of and ash flavor than smoke)
the smoke just kisses the cheese on the way out,remove from the smoker, vac seal it and give it 21 days or more. open it and let it breathe in the fridge for
about an hour, remove to counter top and let it come up in temp for about 30 mins. slice thin and give it a taste.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: watchdog56 on December 06, 2010, 09:27:05 AM
I smoked ghouda,colby jack,pepper jack,string cheese and cheddar a few weeks ago and the cabinet temp only hit 50. I was worried the smoke did not penetrate enough but there is plenty of smoke flavoring in all the cheese. I smoked it for 2 hours using cherry wood.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: CentPaSmokin on December 08, 2010, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Seahawk on December 05, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
Hi,everyone.I have a couple questions?
first im doing some smoked cheese and normaly i like to be around 70degrees when doing cheese, however today seems to be a cold windy day and i seem to only get my burner temp up to 60degrees with the vent almost shut, is it ok to keep the vent almost closed or will the cheese sweat?and is 60degrees a ok temp or does it need to be warmer for the smoke to penetrate?
Thank you and happy holidays.
The one thing I have learned is that if you close the vent you are asking for trouble. Cheese sweats and hotdogs shrink thinking of just taking mine off to stop the temptation to play.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 08, 2010, 12:34:32 PM
The Bradley cold smoker setup

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSC00885.jpg)
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: CentPaSmokin on December 08, 2010, 05:48:17 PM
I have have looking all over for just the right cart to mount mine on. ;D
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: Brisket Lover on December 08, 2010, 07:12:13 PM
I did my cheese at 50 half vent  and at 2,3, and 4 weeks it tasted too smokey and not good but better at 4 than 2. I'm waiting a few more weeks to see how it tastes.  When I try t again I will do it at a higher temp full vent.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: porterdriver on December 15, 2010, 01:01:21 PM
Here's another beginner question.  It applies to cold-smoking as well as hot-smoking.  When does the group begin keeping time?  Do you all begin when you advance the first puck onto the burner?  Do you begin once you have a nice smoke popping out the top (sort of the SG version of preheating)?

I want to be able to duplicate some of the great recipes here but don't want to over/under smoke.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: pensrock on December 15, 2010, 01:10:04 PM
I start once the first puck ends up on the preheated puck burner.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: porterdriver on December 15, 2010, 01:12:11 PM
OK then, how long does one preheat the burner?
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: TestRocket on December 15, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on December 08, 2010, 12:34:32 PM
The Bradley cold smoker setup

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/DSC00885.jpg)

NePaS, is that another road kill next to your cart wheel and are you going to smoke that duckie or make sausages?   ;)  \hijack

Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: watchdog56 on December 15, 2010, 03:37:10 PM
I keep the vent wide open to get the moisture out.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: GusRobin on December 15, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
I always preheat. If hot smoking I preheat the cabinet to around 250* and have the SG on. When I put in the meat I advance the pucks until one is on the burner. If cold smoking I will pre heat the SG for 20 min and then advance the puck to the burner.
Title: Re: cold smoking questions
Post by: pensrock on December 16, 2010, 02:10:45 AM
QuoteOK then, how long does one preheat the burner?

I agree with Gusrobins answer. I preheat the puckburner the whole time the tower is heating if hot smoking, if cold smoking I preheat the puckburner for 20-30 minutes.