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Title: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Smokeville on December 11, 2010, 10:08:34 AM
I'm baffled on this......

I made some Indian candy as I mentioned in the other thread. First I used Kummok's brine and then I followed the recipe here on the Bradley site. My first impressions were positive, but the next day when it wasn't warm I really couldn't enjoy it. The texture seemed almost dry-chewy and it had a very salty aftertaste. I've had Indian Candy that was commercially made in British Columbia and it was wonderful.

I took some to our local high-end fish market and the people there loved it. Including the chef owner. She thought it was a real winner. The folks there are all from the East coast (Newfoundland, etc.) and they seem to know what they are talking about. They even liked the initial sweetness followed by the salty aftertaste.

So, my question for all you Indian candy experts, how can you describe the ideal Indian Candy??

Thanks, Rich
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Ka Honu on December 11, 2010, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: Smokeville on December 11, 2010, 10:08:34 AM... how can you describe the ideal Indian Candy??

I can't describe the ideal Indian candy (words fail me) but I did find a picture...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_y-SPVyDlvrk/TNq61fmRl2I/AAAAAAAAAXg/7U1YQw9pYG4/s640/j3.jpg)


Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: beefmann on December 11, 2010, 12:01:55 PM
best piece of candy yet
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: GusRobin on December 11, 2010, 12:26:11 PM
Where did you get a copy of my girlfriend's picture? :o

meanwhile I hope someone can answer the original question.
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: hal4uk on December 11, 2010, 12:28:49 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my...
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: TestRocket on December 11, 2010, 01:14:45 PM
What was the question again?
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on December 11, 2010, 02:16:51 PM
Question ?  No questions please, at least not now.
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Up In Smoke on December 11, 2010, 04:09:59 PM
You guys realize that she has a mother!!! and i hope she is available  :D
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: smoker pete on December 11, 2010, 07:23:11 PM
Indian Candy ... Nooooooo, that was eye candy !!!!  But seriously ... I think Indian Candy is supposed to taste like ...

wait for it ....

Indians?  ::) ;D :D  ... I know ... I know ... I'm ashamed of myself  :-[
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Kummok on December 11, 2010, 11:35:02 PM
It kinda tastes like....well....eagle!!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Smokeville on December 12, 2010, 10:25:04 AM
Ok, all you wise guys!

When I make my millions perfecting it without your help and sell it by the ton, and then buy Bradley and have the R&D crew build a smoker with a built in PID and 1000 watt element...

... I have taken down all your names and I won't sell any to you....

so there!

Rich  :D
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: TestRocket on December 12, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
Forgive me I'm easily distracted and don't know what Indian Candy taste like and if I did well...(words fail me)  ;)
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: smoker pete on December 12, 2010, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: Smokeville on December 12, 2010, 10:25:04 AM
Ok, all you wise guys!

When I make my millions perfecting it without your help and sell it by the ton, and then buy Bradley and have the R&D crew build a smoker with a built in PID and 1000 watt element...

... I have taken down all your names and I won't sell any to you....

Too bad you have me on the list Smokerville cause when you buy Bradley and have the R&D crew build a smoker with a built in PID and 1000 watt element I would have been at the head of the line to buy at least one ;D ;D  A 6 rack Bradley with 1000 watt element and a built in PID would be a killer   :o
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Smokeville on December 12, 2010, 12:11:17 PM
Yeah, it would be a dream come true, eh?

I wonder why Bradley doesn't develop it? They could set the price so they wouldn't undercut the current product line.
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: BuyLowSellHigh on December 12, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: Smokeville on December 12, 2010, 12:11:17 PM
Yeah, it would be a dream come true, eh?

I wonder why Bradley doesn't develop it? They could set the price so they wouldn't undercut the current product line.

Killer indeed!

Many of us are buying PID's and modifying the smoker to get exactly that. Give me that design off the shelf for +$200 and I am still money ahead, and a better value than the alternatives.

BTW, if I can get the Indian eye candy as an option, I'll take two, maybe three.  I probably wouldn't live very long, but at least I would go with a smile that even a world class mortician couldn't remove.    ;D
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Whalebreath on December 12, 2010, 03:29:50 PM
To my taste the original Indian Candy taste is what OP describes-never a personal favourite since I didn't like sweet then salty although the dryish jerky-like texture was fine.

Of late we're seeing a moister product that's overall sweeter with less salt as a backup flavour (if I can put it in those terms).

I have a bunch of this newer/sweeter/milder taste product made by Granville island Smokery they were recommended to me and did an outstanding job but again Indian Candy isn't my favourite.

So it sounds like OP needs to tweak his recipe a tad to suit his own taste.

There's a killer recipe on Sportfishing BC.com (http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/showthread.php?10102-Indian-Candy)
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Kummok on December 12, 2010, 06:57:26 PM
I think that the reason everyone is having a bit of fun with this is cuz nobody really knows what it tastes like cuz there's a zillion* descriptions of what Indian candy really is  ???....Only the First Nation People know for sure and even THEY don't agree on it. I'd never even heard the term "Indian candy" until a few years ago on this forum when it was used as a PC term for squaw candy. Where I grew up in NorCal, squaw candy was the fish version of pemmican to the Piutes I grew up with...up here, my Eskimo, Aleut, Athabascan/Tlinget/Haida friends tell me that it simply dried salmon strips, sometimes smoked.

Whenever I've been involved with discussions of squaw candy or Indian candy it's always been an experience like asking a group of cowboys about what "good chili" tastes like! :o

Honest though...it really does taste like spotted owl and kangaroo rat!  ;)


*(don't tell Obama and our Congress about the term "zillion"!!)
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Smokeville on December 12, 2010, 08:50:49 PM
Ok yous' guys you are all forgiven......

My round 2 using only a wet brine is partly done.... the first batch was sweeter with not so much salt. The second batch is air drying overnight and I didn't rinse the brine off so maybe there will be more salt....

In case you think I'm foolin' about making a million, the only guy around here who makes this stuff sells it for.......

Drum Roll Please!

$100 per kilo. For you metrically challenged folks, that is $45.45 PER POUND!

And his stuff is ok but not great.

Rich
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Kummok on December 12, 2010, 10:17:50 PM
OK Rich...fine tune the product, sell LOTS, get really RICH, buy a really nice salmon catcher (  http://www.bayweldboats.com/ ) and park it here in Homer...I'll be your "caretaker/driver"!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Smokeville on December 13, 2010, 05:59:54 AM
Quote from: Kummok on December 12, 2010, 10:17:50 PM
OK Rich...fine tune the product, sell LOTS, get really RICH, buy a really nice salmon catcher (  http://www.bayweldboats.com/ ) and park it here in Homer...I'll be your "caretaker/driver"!!  ;D ;D

sounds like a plan, Kummok!
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: GusRobin on December 13, 2010, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: Kummok on December 12, 2010, 10:17:50 PM
OK Rich...fine tune the product, sell LOTS, get really RICH, buy a really nice salmon catcher (  http://www.bayweldboats.com/ ) and park it here in Homer...I'll be your "caretaker/driver"!!  ;D ;D

Rich - also after all that is accomplished you can adopt me.
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: TestRocket on December 13, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
Well I never been to Homer AK
But I've been to Houma LA
Well they tell me I have a sister there (north of Homer)
But I really never been there
In Houma, not Homer
What does it matter
What does it matter
  ;D
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Caneyscud on December 27, 2010, 02:58:38 PM
Quote from: Kummok on December 12, 2010, 10:17:50 PM
OK Rich...fine tune the product, sell LOTS, get really RICH, buy a really nice salmon catcher (  http://www.bayweldboats.com/ ) and park it here in Homer...I'll be your "caretaker/driver"!!  ;D ;D

If it works out, I'll come up and we'll go to China Poot Lake.
Title: Re: How is Indian Candy supposed to taste?
Post by: Kummok on December 27, 2010, 04:07:52 PM
Hiking boots are ready!!