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Title: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: lumpy on March 27, 2011, 06:36:18 PM
I am looking for members that have fan kits installed in BDS.
Want to do it myself but want more opinions on the change.

thanks in advance
Lumpy
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: beefmann on March 28, 2011, 06:30:15 AM
lumpy,

here is my fan heater mod

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=17329.0

and yes you do need to run it with a pid and timer and here  is that

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=17304.0

the timer switches on the smoke generator for 4 hours then turns it off as it turns on the fan and pid in turn controls the heater
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: lumpy on March 28, 2011, 06:36:07 AM
Thanks Beefman
This is more complex than I would like to do. I have added the second element already, just want to add the fan.
Not sure how the fan gets its power? On its own or is it tied into the BDS somehow?

Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: OU812 on March 28, 2011, 08:04:27 AM
I have fans in my smoker and just plug them into the wall outlet.
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: Mr Walleye on March 28, 2011, 12:43:35 PM
Hi Lumpy

Here is the post I did a few years ago on adding the fan.

http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?186-Fan&p=848#post848

Certainly adding the fan helps by moving the air in the cabinet around and especially getting it off the back wall. Although it doesn't completely eliminate the need for rack rotations it does help. I think when we start to crowd the cabinet is when we see more temp differences in various areas because the meat is influencing/blocking a fair bit of the air movement in the cabinet. Either way I think the fan mod helps.

Mike
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: beefmann on March 28, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
on mine the fan gets its power off the  timer and the heater gets its power from the pid, anyway good luck with your setup on either way you go
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: lumpy on March 28, 2011, 03:36:15 PM
thanks for the tips guys!
I have a tendency to overload the BDS which causes the hot/cold spots. Go big or go home eh!
This spring I will install the fan kit and try not to overload the smoker. Either that or get myself a proofer like some of you have.

Lumpy
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: Mr Walleye on March 28, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
Lumpy

You could also just buy a 2nd Bradley like some of the members here have done. That way if you only need one, you only use one.

Not a bad idea for sure but I'm already planning my next build....

Mike
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: pikeman_95 on March 28, 2011, 06:43:26 PM
Lumpy

I have a non Bradely smoker where I use a metal squirrel cage fan which is external of the smoker cabinet. I suck hot air out of the smoker and then blow it back into the smoker just over the smoke generator inlet. This spins the air in the smoker. I feel it helps the smoke saturation on the sausage and evens out the temperature of the smoker.

here is the fan with a weather cover.

(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/pikeman_95/MAKING%20A%20SMOKE%20GENERATOR%20SMALL%20FILES/fanoutside.jpg)

this is the fan inlet and discharge.

(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/pikeman_95/MAKING%20A%20SMOKE%20GENERATOR%20SMALL%20FILES/fandischargeandinlet.jpg)

(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/pikeman_95/MAKING%20A%20SMOKE%20GENERATOR%20SMALL%20FILES/insideofsmoker.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: NePaSmoKer on March 29, 2011, 09:00:45 AM
I wanna move next door to Kirby  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: muebe on March 29, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
Pikeman.....That circulation fan setup must make a mini "Smoke Tornado" in that cabinet :o
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: Tenpoint5 on March 29, 2011, 09:11:40 AM
That's kinf of the same idea I have going for my proofer smoker when I get back to working on it. Kirby, what is the cfm for your fan? The one I have is a 70 cfm. I will be blowing the air inthrough the back of the unit reheating the air and sending it back out of the louvers like nepas has in the back of his unit
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: beefmann on March 29, 2011, 09:13:07 AM
Pike ,

your fan / blower set up is like mine, though i have mounted the actual blower inside of the smoker while the motor sets on the outside
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: TedEbear on March 29, 2011, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: lumpy on March 28, 2011, 06:36:07 AM
This is more complex than I would like to do. I have added the second element already, just want to add the fan.
Not sure how the fan gets its power? On its own or is it tied into the BDS somehow?

Did you add a PID controller when you did the dual element?  My fan turns on/off via the high temp alarm output on the PID.  I have it set so that if the chamber temp gets to 100*F or above it turns on the fan.
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: lumpy on March 29, 2011, 11:16:07 AM
Yes I have a PID and was thinking to put a reostat on the fan so I can control the cfm's. I would also like to make the fan temperature controlled.
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: pikeman_95 on March 29, 2011, 06:09:33 PM
Quote from: muebe on March 29, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
Pikeman.....That circulation fan setup must make a mini "Smoke Tornado" in that cabinet :o

That is the whole Idea. With my smoke generator cranking 3 alarm smoke and the smoke tornado going on in the smoker I can get the dark mahogany smoke it 1 to 1 1/2 hours after the sausage is dry. I have learned it is very important to let your sausage come to at least room temp and dry before pouring on the smoke. Then to the water bath for about 20 minutes and a couple of hours to bloom and I am done. It would be nice to have all the equipment set up in it's own meat room rather then moving things out and back.

large hog casings summer sausage done with short intense smoke and water bath.

(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/pikeman_95/Large%20hog%20casings/32poundsofSSrounds.jpg)

Kirby
Title: Re: Looking for members that has fan installed
Post by: pikeman_95 on March 29, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on March 29, 2011, 09:11:40 AM
That's Kind of the same idea I have going for my proofer smoker when I get back to working on it. Kirby, what is the cfm for your fan? The one I have is a 70 cfm. I will be blowing the air inthrough the back of the unit reheating the air and sending it back out of the louvers like nepas has in the back of his unit


A typical bathroom fan is 75-150 CFM  My fan is closer to 150-200 CFM I did have to restrict the intake a little because it was moving so much air the motor was getting too warm. By restricting the intake I was able to lower the amp load on the motor and it is doing fine. It still puts out lots of air. The smoker is spinning inside. You can tell this when you open the door fast you can see the smoke spinning. This also very helpful when you are doing jerky.