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Recipe Discussions => Vegetables, Cheese, Nuts => Topic started by: gbritten_nh on March 27, 2011, 07:00:58 PM

Title: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: gbritten_nh on March 27, 2011, 07:00:58 PM
Anybody know if it is possible to cold smoke cheese too cold?

I rigged up a cold smoke adapter that allowed my smoker to run at 46 F in 34 F ambient, I smoked for 2 hours, and the color was not hardly noticeable, so I decided to extend the smoke and I kicked the temp up to 85 with the element, so far it has coasted on up to 91 but seems to be holding.  I will smoke for 15 minutes (2:45 total), then shut down and let the cheese cool if it has not already done so.

My only previous experience was with the OBS before I rigged up the cold smoke adapter, or had a maverick for accurate temperature tracking, and I did not log it, but the temp went up to near 100 on the Bradley thermo, and was pretty successful if early samples of the product give any indication:

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=21463.0

Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: pensrock on March 28, 2011, 02:03:34 AM
I run my heat doing cheese if it real cold outside. I always felt I got more color if the tmp in the smoker was 80-90 degrees F. I think its more of a looks thing than a taste issue. Not positive about that though.
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: Jim O on March 28, 2011, 05:45:04 AM
I smoke cheese at outside temps down to -10C and mt cheese always turns out great. I usually smoke for 2 hrs, and find the SG raises the oven temp to about 60-70* in spite of the outside temp.

For the summer months I'll rig up a cold smoke adapter.

Jim O
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: ArnieM on March 28, 2011, 07:04:34 AM
I use the cabinet heater to push up the heat when really cold outside (SG directly attached to the cabinet).  I turn off the cabinet heater once I hit 75-80.  The SG will usually push it up to 85-90 or so and keep it there.

I like the color that comes from using higher temps but agree in that I don't really know if it does anything for the taste or not.
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: gbritten_nh on March 28, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
Well, whether it was too cold or not I smoked some, the good thing is, if they are too lightly smoked, I can correct this by smoking it for an hour more.

Anyway, the cheese as purchased

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/gbritten_NH/DSC01121.jpg)

and ready for smoking

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/gbritten_NH/DSC01122.jpg)

And in the smoker

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/gbritten_NH/DSC01124.jpg)

and after smoking

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/gbritten_NH/DSC01132.jpg)

We shall see, if they are smoke too lightly they can improved!
Title: Re: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: bears fan on March 28, 2011, 07:56:21 PM
Looks good to me.  What is that filter for on top of the smokestack for?
Title: Re: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: OU812 on March 29, 2011, 07:01:05 AM
Quote from: bears fan on March 28, 2011, 07:56:21 PM
Looks good to me.  What is that filter for on top of the smokestack for?

I believe he is using the filter as a wind break.
Title: Re: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: KyNola on March 29, 2011, 07:53:15 AM
Quote from: OU812 on March 29, 2011, 07:01:05 AM
Quote from: bears fan on March 28, 2011, 07:56:21 PM
Looks good to me.  What is that filter for on top of the smokestack for?
I believe he is using the filter as a wind break.
Yep, good idea too!
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: squirtthecat on March 29, 2011, 08:00:03 AM

Fram or Purolator?   ;D


Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: gbritten_nh on March 29, 2011, 12:07:36 PM
Actually, no idea on the brand, has been out of it's wrapper and sitting in the garage for a while.  But it makes a pretty good windbreak, I smoked 3 things this weekend and it has been windy all weekend, and that continues into today.  I plan on using a collar to adapt a dryer hose as a better long-term windbreak, but forgot to get an extra one when buying the supplies for the cold smoke adapter.

And, to everyone, I knew I really did not need the adapter yet, but I had to try it.  Anybody think it is a bad idea, if after I let the cheese age for another day or 2, and try it, it seems too light, to smoke it some more.  I know there are a lot of assumptions there, but it is really light in color, and I think I understand well enough what is going on to believe color and smoke flavor do pretty much correlate.
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: ArnieM on March 29, 2011, 02:43:39 PM
This is mine  :D

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx21/ArnieMauer/Garage/Garage6.jpg)
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: gbritten_nh on March 29, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Is the adjuster for the vent avaiable down inside, oir do you just have it pegged at 100%?
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: Quarlow on March 29, 2011, 04:32:16 PM
Yeah sure try your cheese in a day or 2 if you are partial to licking ashtrays.  :D :D :D You really will not like it. And as for your color, I think you got real good color. Way more color than I got my first time. And I am going to smoke my next batch at 80 to 90 degrees for 2 hrs. of hickory. We like smokey cheese alot so stronger is better.
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: gbritten_nh on March 29, 2011, 06:27:21 PM
I just smelled it and it smelled like creosote, so I will not taste it right away.  I guess if it smells like that, it must be smoked enough, so I just have to wait.......  waiting is hard, even if I have a prior batch to fall back on!
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: ArnieM on March 29, 2011, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: gbritten_nh on March 29, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Is the adjuster for the vent avaiable down inside, oir do you just have it pegged at 100%?

I left the vent adjuster and bent the handle to fit.  I always leave it wide open anyway so I could just as well have removed it.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx21/ArnieMauer/Garage/Garage7.jpg)
Title: Re: Too cold for cheese?
Post by: wetzel1977 on April 02, 2011, 06:17:12 PM
Just like Tom Petty says "the waiting is the hardest Part" wait atleast 2- 3 weeks . It will be worth the wait. I smoke my cheese  for a min of 2hrs with my internal temps between 75-90 degrees and when i am done i let the cheese rest for a bit then wipe them off and then vac them up.