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Title: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on December 22, 2011, 06:10:44 PM
So I'm finally all set up for Dry curing Salami. I thought I would start by Making a nice Salami di Alessanddra Which is better known as Genoa Salami.
So here we go from Start to the Fermenting stage.

The recipe is as follows:
Salami di Alessanddra by Stan Marianski

2.0 kg (4.4 lbs.) pork butt
2.0 kg (4.4 lbs.) beef chuck
1.0 kg (2.2 lbs.) pork back fat (or fat trimmings)
140 g. salt (3%)
12 g. cure #2 (do not use cure #1 in this recipe)
10 g. powdered dextrose (glucose)
15 g. sugar (3%)
15 g. white pepper
0.6 g. (1/4 tspn.) Bactoferm? T-SPX
----- Bactoferm? Mold 600

Optional: Note: To make 5 kg. sausage, about 7 g. of spices and 4 g. of herbs are needed.

120 ml. (1/2 cup) quality red burgundy or other dry red wine (Do not exceed ? cup).
4 parts coriander (spice)
3 parts mace (spice)
2 parts allspice (spice)
1 part fennel (spice)
3 parts marjoram (herb)
1 part thyme (herb)
1 part basil (herb)

Started by Grinding Some Pork Back Fat

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Then I ground some Pork Loin (used it because i had it in the freezer instead of Pork Butt)

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Then on to the Chuck steak

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Some of the Ingrediants going into the Salami

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All mixed up and ready to stuff

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First Salami out of the stuffer today

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And finally hanging in the dry cure cabinet for a 3 day run at 85% RH and about 68? F for the fermenting process

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The weight on the salamis is from left to right A thru D and I am looking for about a 30% weight loss over a 2 to 3 month period.
A= 2 Lb-14.4 oz
B= 2 Lb-15.6 oz
C= 2 Lb-14.2 oz
D= 2 Lb-7.4 oz

I will post pictures periodically of the progress :)
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 22, 2011, 06:18:25 PM
AWESOME

I wanna be like Aaron
Title: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: SamuelG on December 22, 2011, 06:19:45 PM
👍👍👍

How nice is that!?!

Super job and presentation.


SamuelG

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Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: ACW3 on December 22, 2011, 06:57:40 PM
This is starting to look like I need more "toys" to be able to make different sausages.  I'll have to talk to Nepas about what I need and where I can get it. 

Your sausages look great.

Art
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: DisplacedCoonass on December 22, 2011, 07:05:28 PM
Like the scale....ammo, arrows or kitchen?

Serious note, does the bactoferm get mixed in with the rest of the seasonings?
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on December 22, 2011, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: DisplacedCoonass on December 22, 2011, 07:05:28 PM
Like the scale....ammo, arrows or kitchen?

Serious note, does the bactoferm get mixed in with the rest of the seasonings?
The directions for the bactoferm are to mix it with distilled water and the cure if it is used. I mixed all the spices, herbs, wine and salt in first then mixed in the bactoferm and cure which made for some cold hands as that meat was all pretty much frozen ;D
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: ratherbboating on December 23, 2011, 07:28:20 AM
Nice looking salami.
My wife told me no more toys for a while  :(
Something about I don't use all the ones I have now.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: ghost9mm on December 23, 2011, 08:11:00 AM
Really nice lookin Key, like to see one of those bad boys sliced...
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: SouthernSmoked on December 23, 2011, 08:23:34 AM
Looking good Aaron!
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: carnie1 on December 23, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
Looks good, as soon as I get to winter place (south florida) I'll be doing some dry cure this yr as I didn't do any last yr, I'm really anxious to do something this yr but I  only have about a 2- 1/2 month window to do it in, this is what I did last time http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=14698.msg181032#msg181032
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Kevin A on December 23, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Looks great!

and now the wait begins............ ;)


?Kevin
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Brewoz on December 23, 2011, 06:39:20 PM
Aaron, Let me know when it's tasting time.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: drunknimortal on December 24, 2011, 04:16:10 AM
The meat looks really lean, do you trim all the fat off of it an then add the pork fat?
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on December 24, 2011, 04:33:48 AM
Quote from: drunknimortal on December 24, 2011, 04:16:10 AM
The meat looks really lean, do you trim all the fat off of it an then add the pork fat?
There was not a whole lot of fat on the chuck I got from Costco, maybe trimmed off a small handful. No trimming on the Pork loin. Purchased back fat separate, Ground  with 3/8" plate and folded into the already hand mixed pork and chuck, then stuffed.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on December 27, 2011, 11:43:50 AM
On Day five we have some nice mold flora starting to rear its head just as expected :)

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af75/Keymaster_2010/001-124.jpg)
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: devo on December 27, 2011, 12:53:09 PM
Right on Aaron. Wish I was closer to you when it is time to sample. Maybe by this summer I can get something going like you did. Hard to find a fridge/cooler at the right price. FREE would be good  ;D
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: anderson5420 on December 27, 2011, 08:24:13 PM
I AM close enough when it's time to sample...Fall City to Puyallup is definitely less than an hour! Ready, willing and able!


Quote from: devo on December 27, 2011, 12:53:09 PM
Right on Aaron. Wish I was closer to you when it is time to sample. Maybe by this summer I can get something going like you did. Hard to find a fridge/cooler at the right price. FREE would be good  ;D
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Flyboyandre on December 31, 2011, 08:57:20 PM
How the heck did I miss this thread? You HAVE to let me know when tasting time is here. Will be following this closely. Looking good!
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: deb415611 on January 01, 2012, 03:28:34 AM
Nice Aaron!  I wish i had the setup to do dry cured sausages
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on January 01, 2012, 05:30:25 AM
Thanks, Here is a picture I took yesterday on day 9. Only about sixty days to go ;D

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Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: OU812 on January 01, 2012, 09:15:37 AM
Lookin gooood Aaron!

Cant wait for the money shot.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: anderson5420 on January 01, 2012, 06:06:10 PM
Yes, I own a brewery in Snoqualmie, and I will bring the beer!  He HAS to invite us for the tasting, no?

Quote from: Flyboyandre on December 31, 2011, 08:57:20 PM
How the heck did I miss this thread? You HAVE to let me know when tasting time is here. Will be following this closely. Looking good!
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on January 02, 2012, 05:38:40 AM
Quote from: anderson5420 on January 01, 2012, 06:06:10 PM
Yes, I own a brewery in Snoqualmie, and I will bring the beer!  He HAS to invite us for the tasting, no?

Quote from: Flyboyandre on December 31, 2011, 08:57:20 PM
How the heck did I miss this thread? You HAVE to let me know when tasting time is here. Will be following this closely. Looking good!
Sounds good, Time will tell. I figure they got to get down to about 2 # each for a 30% Aw loss.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on January 27, 2012, 05:51:57 PM
No Taste testing on this batch guys :)
I ended up drying my Salami to fast because I chose to use a circulating fan that was more powerful than neccesary. What happens when drying salami if the humidity is not high enough and there is to much air circulation the most inner outside of the casing will form a scab (see the ring) and then not let any more moisture out leaving a hard outer salami and a soft inner salami.
This was a great first time learning experience and I plan on Jumping right back in the saddle soon.

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Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: devo on January 27, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
Do you think your power outage had anything to do with it Aaron? I think those would still go good with beer.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on January 27, 2012, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: devo on January 27, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
Do you think your power outage had anything to do with it Aaron? I think those would still go good with beer.
Tequila wouldn't help these things :) the power loss had nothing to do with it. it was my own fault that i tried to use a to high output fan and I should have trusted the humidistat on the controller for the humidifier instead of the $8 digital temp/RH monitor I trusted. Next time they will be perfect, promise ;)
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: NePaSmoKer on January 27, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
Outstanding

Title: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Flyboyandre on January 27, 2012, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: Keymaster on January 27, 2012, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: devo on January 27, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
Do you think your power outage had anything to do with it Aaron? I think those would still go good with beer.
Tequila wouldn't help these things :) the power loss had nothing to do with it. it was my own fault that i tried to use a to high output fan and I should have trusted the humidistat on the controller for the humidifier instead of the $8 digital temp/RH monitor I trusted. Next time they will be perfect, promise ;)

Ok, my phone number is 253-666-2104. Add it to your memory now so i will be the first one you call. Hell, i live a mere stone throw away from you here at Lipoma Firs.


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Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: La Quinta on January 28, 2012, 12:40:06 AM
I am so jealous...it's so dry and warm here...I don't think I can do it...
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Brewoz on January 28, 2012, 08:30:02 AM
Aaron, Don't throw it out. I almost did with the salami you tried at my house, but I turned everything off and forgot about it. Cut into it a couple of weeks ago and was surprised.

With the high humidity around here it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on January 28, 2012, 08:41:42 AM
Quote from: Brewoz on January 28, 2012, 08:30:02 AM
Aaron, Don't throw it out. I almost did with the salami you tried at my house, but I turned everything off and forgot about it. Cut into it a couple of weeks ago and was surprised.

With the high humidity around here it's worth a shot.
Ok, I'll unplug the cabinet and and wait a couple weeks and see what happens. ;D
Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: NePaSmoKer on January 28, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
Ok so im thinking on a smaller humidifier than what i have and no fan.
Title: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: SamuelG on January 28, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
I'll take some! Superb!

Use them to cook.


SamuelG

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Title: Re: Salami di Alessanddra (Genoa)
Post by: Keymaster on January 29, 2012, 05:30:37 AM
Quote from: NePaSmoKer on January 28, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
Ok so im thinking on a smaller humidifier than what i have and no fan.
Im going to get a fan like this http://www.amazon.com/Mechatronics-120x120x38mm-Low-Speed-UF12A12-BTL/dp/B000F8W35M/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1327842570&sr=1-8

Then wire this in to controll the outlet for the fan http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-Speed-Control-1DGV1?Pid=search

You definately need air circulation just not as much as i had. I think your humidifier is the same size as mine which should be fine.