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Smoking Techniques => Curing => Topic started by: squirtthecat on January 15, 2012, 11:12:12 AM

Title: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 15, 2012, 11:12:12 AM

John Morrell used to sell a sliced 'honey ham' that was from the loin.  Nice and lean, and not very salty.   After conferring with another forum's resident ham expert, we came up with this.

3 quarts water
1/2 cup + 2 T pickling salt
2/3 cup honey
1/2 cup brown sugar
2 tsp Cure #1


The players.

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I boiled the water and mixed in everything but the Cure.    After 30 minutes in the freezer, and a couple hours in the fridge, it was cold again.   Then I stirred the Cure #1 into the mixture.

Everybody into the pool.   There are a few toothpicks in the loin to keep it submerged.  We'll cure in the back of the fridge for 6 days, then hot smoke.

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Stay tuned!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 15, 2012, 12:49:45 PM
I'll be waiting for the out come. That is not much cure in 3 quarts of water, it may be enough for color, I don't think it will provide much ham flavor. But it depends on what you are aiming for.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 15, 2012, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on January 15, 2012, 12:49:45 PM
I'll be waiting for the out come. That is not much cure in 3 quarts of water, it may be enough for color, I don't think it will provide much ham flavor. But it depends on what you are aiming for.

The original author modified this from one of Ruhlman's 5% brine solutions.    He said he reduced the nitrites for health reasons.   He wanted the Cure more for color than anything..

I have 2 more pieces this size in the freezer to experiment with as well!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: Habanero Smoker on January 15, 2012, 01:06:37 PM
That's what I figured. You will get the color, but not the ham-like flavor that is traditional.

Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: SouthernSmoked on January 15, 2012, 03:23:12 PM
Niiice.........I will be watching.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: Tenpoint5 on January 15, 2012, 07:37:42 PM
Looks good Squirt. I have thought about doing a ham with a loin. just never got around to doing one. Will be watching yours with interest
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 22, 2012, 08:49:34 AM

1 week later...    Time for smoke!

Pulled the 'science experiment' out of the back of the fridge.

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We'll give it a quick rinse and put the cooking bands on it to hold the shape better.

Dreary day outside.  32° and drizzle.

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It firmed up nicely, so I guess the cure did it's thing.

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Onto the rack, MAK set at 225°.

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We'll check back later..
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: KyNola on January 22, 2012, 08:54:21 AM
Watching for the finished product.  What IT will you take it to?
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 22, 2012, 08:55:05 AM

I'm thinking 145°..   
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: KyNola on January 22, 2012, 08:58:05 AM
Kind of what I suspected.  Should make some tasty sandwiches!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: weedenb on January 22, 2012, 11:11:07 AM
Perfect timing Squirt, I've been looking a long time for a good light cured honey smoked ham recipe similiar to the deli versions for day to day sandwiches and snacks. Can't wait for the finish!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 22, 2012, 11:26:22 AM

Almost there...

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And done.

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Double wrapped and resting in the microwave for a bit.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: rigstar on January 22, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
looks real good!!!
i see you did this on a Mak, i am not familiar with these,
i assume you use wood as well, what wood did you use to smoke?
with flavours available for the BDS, what would you recommend?

i did some cbb with maple syrup, and it was a big hit, kids are asking
now if i can do honey ham like you get from the deli, i think what you have
done will turn out very similiar,
my question is
would i be able to the use the dry cure i used (habs recipe) and substitute
honey for the maple syrup?
thanks for your time
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 22, 2012, 02:24:42 PM

I was using a blend of pellets...   Apple/Hickory/Maple and Pecan.  I think.
I've used straight hickory, and it works great as well.   This container of pellets was just closer to the door.   ;)

Yes, I would think you could sub honey for the Maple syrup.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: rigstar on January 22, 2012, 03:28:35 PM
thanks stc,

i think what i may do when i do my next batch of cbb is some
of each,
try your recipe
dry cure w/ maple syrup
dry cure w/ honey

and see which one the food critics like the best
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 22, 2012, 03:40:18 PM

Sounds like a plan!

I'm going to let this one rest for 24 hours, then slice into it tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 23, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
HAM I AM!

This turned out great..   Just the right level of salt vs sweet.   I need to work on my trimming skills, though.

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Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: rigstar on January 23, 2012, 08:40:41 PM
that looks excellent!!!
you say just the right amount of salty vs. sweet,
could you taste the honey alot, alittle?
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: SouthernSmoked on January 23, 2012, 08:59:56 PM
Pat, you done well!

Looks pretty darn tasty!!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 24, 2012, 04:44:47 AM

Just a hint of the honey.  Definitely a keeper.

Next time I'll do it in my Reveo container and let it sit for a week under a partial vacuum..
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: rigstar on January 24, 2012, 06:30:50 AM
thank-you for the recipe and input on taste!!!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: lmcgrew02 on January 24, 2012, 08:21:48 AM
Great lookin stuff Squirt! definetley gonna be trying this!
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: jiggerjams on January 24, 2012, 10:05:02 AM
No shame in those knife skills. Great job all around!!
Title: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: mikecorn.1 on January 24, 2012, 12:24:49 PM
Nice looking finish.


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Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: Tenpoint5 on January 24, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
Looks Great Squirt.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: OU812 on January 27, 2012, 10:38:48 AM
Ya hit that one outta the park Squirt.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: smokeNcanuck on January 27, 2012, 04:09:48 PM
Defiantly a keeper, GREAT job squirt!!

Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: viper125 on January 27, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
Looks great! But does it taste more like a ham or a cured pork? Just wondering which way the taste went.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: squirtthecat on January 27, 2012, 05:49:16 PM

In between...

A hammy smoked loin, perhaps.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: Northern_Smoke on January 29, 2012, 05:47:23 AM
Sounds delicious. I will have to mark this and give it a try when I am back home. I bet it makes a pretty mean ham sandwhich.
Title: Re: Low(er) Salt Honey Cured 'Ham'
Post by: MidKnightRider on January 29, 2012, 04:30:50 PM
Looks like a home run.
Printed and in my to try book!