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Miscellaneous Topics => General Discussions => Topic started by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 11:11:15 AM

Title: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
Well after a lot of discussion and brain searching I think I've got it figured out where I went wrong. So I'm upping the stakes so i'll bay more attention. But not to much LOL. going FROM 2 LBS - 7 LBS. Wife said she wanted some pork so i'm adding pork to this batch. 1/2 and 1/2. So I ground the meat thru twice and its back in fridge getting cold for emulsifying. Then if I can remember i'll do some more pic's.

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_13-29-23_16.jpg)

New grinder is great. But like the rest the second is a pain and the third is even worse. LOL THis was second grind and its almost emulsified now. Still going to use the processor.

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_13-29-30_17.jpg)
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Keymaster on February 26, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Got my fingers crossed for yah :)
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 02:24:39 PM
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_17-00-53_71.jpg)

Ok waiting for water to come to temp. Looking good so far. I decided to throw in 8 oz. cheddar cheese so hopefully the wife enjoy's it more. Got the roaster out this time and the maverick eye on it. If this don't work next time i'll use the PID. LOL Just wanted every one to see they are stuffed tight.
Title: Try try again!
Post by: mikecorn.1 on February 26, 2012, 03:05:18 PM
Looking good!!


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Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 03:20:54 PM
Thanks Key master and Mikecorn.1!
Well here they are waiting to get poached. As you can see casings if anything are over stuffed. I had two blow outs. But their the same as the other day.

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_17-00-53_71.jpg)
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Sailor on February 26, 2012, 03:32:55 PM
Look pretty tight to me.  Keep the water at 160 and stir so it is even temp.  Looking forward to seeing the finished dogs.
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
Well next time i'll use the PID on the cooker. I'm set at 300 degrees and maverick and the pen both agree its only 144 degrees. Are these roasters typically off this much? Cant see how any one would cook with good results with out a thermometer.
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Keymaster on February 26, 2012, 03:54:33 PM
Mine was the same way, I used the roaster pan that came with it and had to set the contol at like 275 to get the water up to 160. I wonder if you could just not use the roaster pan and fill the heating unit up with water and it would be more accurate?
Title: Try try again!
Post by: mikecorn.1 on February 26, 2012, 04:41:33 PM
Are you able to use the dual probe
PID for the roaster or would you have to calibrate it for it? 


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Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: NePaSmoKer on February 26, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
Looks good viper.

How many plates do you have with your grinder?

Sometimes its easier to grind medium then fine.
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 05:09:25 PM
3 plates I have been using the finest. Its not the first grind I have problems with but the second and third. Probably one of the reasons stuffers are so slow on grinders.
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 05:15:12 PM
Well my wife dont care much for cooking in this but uses it to keep foods warm. Now I know why.
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_19-53-03_861.jpg)

You need a thermometer just to see whats going on.
Well bouncing between 158-160 so every body into the pool! Took almost two hours of moving dial a little at a time to get here. next time i use my spare PID.  If needed i'll tune it to this. Also maintained a 2 degree difference between top and bottom. Not too bad there.

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_19-54-44_662.jpg)
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Keymaster on February 26, 2012, 05:37:39 PM
I think you can get a waterproof thermometer for the Auber for like Sous vide cooking. Here is an email I got back from Suyi Liu

Would the Bradley 2 probe plug and play work for sous vide cooking
controller if I purchased different probes?

Hello Aaron,
Yes, it will work for sous vide cooking. You need to make sure the current that the cooker draws less than 12A for WSD-1203CPH or 15A for WSD-1503CPH.

You need this probe,
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=113
Thanks,
Suyi Liu
Auber Instruments
www.auberins.com
770-569-8420



Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Sailor on February 26, 2012, 05:44:27 PM
I take the roaster pan out and fill the inside with water.  I fill with water and crank it up as start my smoke.  Usually when the smoke is finished I have the water throttled down to 160.  It takes some practice.  The heating elements are in the sides of the roaster.  If you leave the pan in you are using air to conduct the heat between the pan and sides.  Taking the pan out puts water in direct contact with the sides.  Heats up a lot faster.  Trick is to get the water up to temp and then find the sweet spot on the dial to maintain the 160 degrees.  Place a mark on the dial so you know where the sweet spot is. 

If you are not going to smoke, then I would get your roaster going before you do your stuffing.  Get it up to temp then throttle it down to the sweet spot.  Water is ready when you finish the stuffing.

Once you have the water at 160 it is pretty easy to maintain that temp with just a slight turn of the control knob.
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 05:52:05 PM
Believe I may try one. Thanks Keymaster. Wonder why they just dont make all of them water proof.


Quote from: Keymaster on February 26, 2012, 05:37:39 PM
I think you can get a waterproof thermometer for the Auber for like Sous vide cooking. Here is an email I got back from Suyi Liu

Would the Bradley 2 probe plug and play work for sous vide cooking
controller if I purchased different probes?

Hello Aaron,
Yes, it will work for sous vide cooking. You need to make sure the current that the cooker draws less than 12A for WSD-1203CPH or 15A for WSD-1503CPH.

You need this probe,
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=113
Thanks,
Suyi Liu
Auber Instruments
www.auberins.com
770-569-8420
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 05:56:04 PM
Well just pulled the dogs out! running between 52 and 54 degrees. Water never got over 160 degrees. i still see grease in the water. And when i poked a couple to check temps some sprayed water. But I see pockets of grease in casings. I am cooling in ice water now.  Will post pics with and with out casings in a little bit. I think I may have too much grease in the meat. did a 50/50 beef and pork. Cut all fat from pork and used 80/20 burger. Didn't think that would be too much. But its the only thing I can think of now.
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 26, 2012, 06:38:22 PM
Well these are a lot better. Still getting a lot of grease pockets. But they look good and taste good.
Here is what i seen when cooling in the sink.
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_21-05-03_335.jpg)
Does this look normal? I know your going to get some but this seems like a lot I guess.
These are after pealing the casings Which I just squeezed and they come right out.

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee470/viper1233/2012-02-26_21-17-41_201.jpg)
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Tater on February 26, 2012, 07:08:44 PM
Man, those look OK to me!
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Sailor on February 26, 2012, 08:09:37 PM
Viper, they look good to me.  When you say you poke and you get a spray of water I think you are getting fat that is under pressure.  I have shot a hot stream of grease all over the kitchen so that is normal.  A store bought dog has more fat than what you are making.  The fat is distributing through out the meat.  Yes you will get some fat between the casing and a run thru warm water will take it off.  I think it is normal to get fat floating in the water so I would not worry about it.  The main thing is if you are happy with the results and they taste good then you done good.  ;D
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: SiFumar on February 26, 2012, 08:21:24 PM
They do look good!
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: Keymaster on February 27, 2012, 04:52:00 AM
They look like perfect dogs to me, Look out Oscar Meyer Vipers gettin a WeinerMobile ;D
Title: Try try again!
Post by: mikecorn.1 on February 27, 2012, 05:43:25 AM
Nice looking dogs!!


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Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: ghost9mm on February 27, 2012, 06:51:27 AM
Well they sure look good to me...well done my friend...
Title: Re: Try try again!
Post by: viper125 on February 27, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
Well thanks all! Thanks for all the good wish's and thoughts. I hate it when some thing don't work out. But I keep gong till it does. That's the irish in me. But i'm a crippled Irish since I quit drinking LOL We had some for lunch and Every one loved them.  So i guess I win this round. LOL So on to curing and smoking a Ham! Watch for coming photos. I hope ;)