Here are the details of the pucks that I make
I take dry wood and run it through a wood jointer omiting the bark
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/startingwood.jpg) currently using oak,apple and hicory. then I run it through my old meat grinder or a blender to get it smaller. seems the smaller it is with some dust the better it compresses and holds its shape.
My first proto type was 2 1/4" id machine tubing(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/prototype.jpg)
but compressed pucks grow a bit over time . but it made pucks just some would not fit down the feed tube
currently using a 2 3/16 id machine tubing(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/currentpucker.jpg) even then over time a few pucks grow to 2 5/16" od . so if you build on I reccomend 2 1/8" id tubing . there is no gauge on the exhaust pipe bender ( THE POWER HOUSE FOR THE PROJECT) but we belive we are around 2000 psi of compression I feed my saw dust in to a 1 3/4 " gap loosely filled (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/plunger.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/filling.jpg)then I compress it down to about 7/16" because it will grow a bit (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/pressedpuck.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/finished.jpg)
here is a picture of their puck ( ON THE LEFT ) my puck (ON THE RIGHT)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/mypucktheirpuck.jpg) Iam using no binders just dry chips and saw dust . some woods work better then others OAK seems to grow the most after compressing and the APPLE seems to grow the least . Iam not on the computer much but will be happy to aswer any questions in time .
No I cannot chip my own wood compress them and make it worth my time for RESALE but for my own use and trying different wood combinations its great . enjoy apply/hicory combo [:D]
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<font size="3"></font id="size3">I still belive their puck is rolled out in a sheet like OSB board with some mild binder and them PUNCHED out to size.</font id="blue">
If ya go home hungry.........You were at the WRONG HOUSE !
There is another thread about giving someone a persistence award. By far you win by a huge margin[:)]
Good job HG. Have you had a chance to weigh your pucks. Bisquettes average 14 grams each.
Wow!!! Man, I need some time off to play like that! Good job![;)]
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well TomG
If my scale is correct 27g or .95 of an ounce .
If ya go home hungry.........You were at the WRONG HOUSE !
no sh1t habsmo... that deserves an award...
ill take a gross of hickory...
you gotta eat...
owrstrich
Heck of an engineering job. Proud for you~~!
Olds
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Whatcha got there headgames? That mus be the bigger Cabelas 1 horse power grinder you got there ......eh.......?
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ROTFLMAO ! You should know by now jaeger I don't buy it if I can make it. Bought my grinder head on E-BAY a big hobart . made the power plant underneath the diamond plate out of a Raynor 1/2 hp garage door opener . the gearing was excelent with a output of 135 rpm[8D]
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/grinder1.jpg) man I love my digital camera !
If ya go home hungry.........You were at the WRONG HOUSE !
headgames,
That's the first grinder I have ever seen that is ran by remote control.
Nice work Headgames!!!
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Re: The puck maker. Does it press against a flat die that you don't have pictured? Really looks like the finished product is perfect. Good job.
Bill
<i>There is room on earth for all God's creatures....on my plate next to the mashed potatoes.</i>
Neat looking equipment. I have 2 questions. How long does it take to make a puck, do you hold it under pressure for a certain time? Is there a difference of flavor in naturally dried versus kiln dried wood?
Thanks, Brad
Have you developed the shelf life of the pucks. Any ideas how to extend the life. Perhaps the binder might help. But then again the binder may gum up the tube and setup.
And based what your engineering has done, what did you do for a grage door opener.
You are ingenious and driven for sure.
ok #1 to NSXBILL YES THERE is a die it presses . in the last pic you can see it hanging on the left side . it is another piece of metal the same size as the plonger about a 1/2" long welded to a 1/4" plate
#2 to CAR54 I can make a puck in about 15 seconds and no I don't hold it for any time just squeeze and reset for the next one
#3 to IKNOWWOOD shelf life the press is 2 3/16 they stay that size about 5 minutes then they are about 1 1/4 " for at least 3 days then they grow to about 2 5/16 and seem to stay at that size ....... the smaller the chips the less they grow . so dust is good
If ya go home hungry.........You were at the WRONG HOUSE !
My buddy is now pressing out pucks that resemble beaver barf...........aka: particle board.Real tough ,hopeing to get some time this weekend to test burn them ::)
hope they work out. let me know always looking for new and improved info ......... currently using maple wood . with the hot weather we have had I cut a 4' x8" log 3 weeks ago peeled the bark immedietly.. took it on the tablesaw last night with my dado blade . dry all the way through making awsome sawdust for bisquets ;D
HG, Sorry for taking so long to get back to this thread. I was side tracked by a honey do bathroom remodel that took twice as much time and money as planned.
Last February I got what appears to be identical sawdust from
http://www.nwsmoke.com/store/sawdust.htm ,weighed out 14 grams(the same
weight as a Bisquette), mixed it with a little 1:3 wheat flour/water paste,
put it in a 1/3rd measuring cup(which happened to have a 2 1/4" ID)
compressed the mixture by hand with a can to approx. 5/8", put the cup in a
175* oven for 4 hours and ended up with the pictured biscuit. It burned in
the generator and produced smoke and residue comparable to the real thing.
The sawdust in 10# quantities works out to about $0.03/biscuit, paste costs
next to nothing, sizing and drying are the obvious questions. The faux biscuit is on the left.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/xlb/bisquettes.jpg)
That looks brilliant! Will have to give that a go and see if I can duplicate your experiment!
Greg
Quoteput the cup in a
175* oven for 4 hours and ended up with the pictured biscuit. It burned in
the generator and produced smoke and residue comparable to the real thing.
The sawdust in 10# quantities works out to about $0.03/biscuit
TomG are you sure about this. Electricity must be cheaper where you live than me. Now I have a solar oven that works real good and if, and I don't had a mind to make these then I would use a solar oven.
Olds, I didn't calculate the cost of drying. Sawdust @ $1.00/lb works out to about $.03/biscuit. My time, @ usual and customery, brings the cost up to approx. $50.00/biscuit :D. I just bought a 2 1/4" hole saw to cut holes in 1" plastic sheet to make dies, then I'll use the resulting plug as a punch in a simple press to compress and extrude the biscuit per HG's tech. The pressue necessary to compress the sawdust/paste mixture to 5/8" is only about 25-30 lbs. My plan is to punch out a bunch of blanks, rack dry them, pop the racks into my BS and dehydrate the biscuits back to 14-15 grams. After I clean up the resulting mess, I'll call either Bubba or Begolf and order the real stuff ;D
Don't forget to add in the cost of cold brews also TomG. When I figured out what it cost me to make one puck I could have bought a new Bradley. Ann's still shaking her head at some of the stuff I try. Oh well, a guy has to have fun. Have a good one. ;D
all right now we are talking . Tom G your my man . you finialy found a non toxic binder that seems to work . I will put pics on tommorrow of a little something I have been working on for a puck maker home kit .......where you can do 12 pucks at a time . I dinked around with gelitine and a little elmers school glue mixed with water but I did not trust it and also I have very little time right now .. but If you like the looks of my proto type home puck maker Tom G and want to take the time to mess with it . I will mail it to you ............... later and in the mean time keep on THINKING !
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/headgames38/PUCKKIT.jpg) this is where I was . I have access once in a while to this 2 3/16" i.d. aluminum machine tubing . My plan was to find a binder compress it into the preslotted tubing, compress it with the bar clamp and 2 bubba pucks. oven it to dry . when completely dry recut my pucks through the slots then press them out one end with a bubba puck. problem #1 drying time of the pucks better then 4 hours with the water and gelitine ... #2 pressing them out . most time the first 2 came out fine the rest in pieces ...... but after seeing through the fog with what TomG did simplicity is best ....... thinking we may as well just finish cutting the tubing into discs and lay out as many as we can on a cookie sheet and dry them singley .............. let me know what you think TomG , like I said earlier if you want to play with it I will mail you the slotted tubes. I dont have the time right now . after all when I need pucks I press them . but was looking for alternitives for our friends on the site
What would interest me about making pucks is if I could make them out of citrus wood.
Quote from: Oldman on June 21, 2006, 03:48:51 PM
What would interest me about making pucks is if I could make them out of citrus wood.
Sounds good Old's. I can't get any citrus saw dust up here otherwise I'd give it a go for you. Maybe headgames can try some for you.
A few years back we had a hard freeze and there were thousands of acres of citrus trees that were killed.
Getting citrus wood is not a problem at all. Just go to the bush dump.
Olds
No citrus here ............. but I have a saw and jointer if some one has a log .......... lol