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Smoking Techniques => Curing => Topic started by: JZ on September 21, 2012, 11:03:29 PM

Title: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: JZ on September 21, 2012, 11:03:29 PM
I got a side of pork from my neighbor and it's been in the freezer for a couple of months. I checked out the pack that says "bacon for smoking" and felt ice crystals in the package. So I think I better smoke this before it gets freezer burned. Here are a couple of pix of the 6 lb slab that I pulled out and put into the fridge overnight to thaw out. There is one more slab that is a little smaller, but I don't want to smoke it at the same time as this one, just in case this one doesn't turn out great. :(

](http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/JZ-bucket/e152_zpsdb26398b.jpg) (ftp://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/JZ-bucket/e152_zpsdb26398b.jpg%5B/IMG)

](http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/JZ-bucket/e153_zps1b5c3c78.jpg) (ftp://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/JZ-bucket/e153_zps1b5c3c78.jpg%5B/IMG)

My neighbor wants me to smoke some of his slabs at the same time but since this is my first time, I told him he better wait to see how this turns out.  ::)

More pix to come.
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Consooger on September 22, 2012, 02:46:01 AM
are you curing or brining this or just rolling smoke on this.
are you seasoning this with anything?
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: JZ on September 22, 2012, 08:55:28 AM
I have read quite a lot of threads and have 2 books with recipes and I think I will try this one first, since it has had many good reviews on this site.

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=6770.msg66218#msg66218 (http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=6770.msg66218#msg66218)

I just found out that we don't have any maple syrup so I am going to have to drive into town to get some. Hope our local grocery store has some or I will have to try another recipe.

Seems that most recipes I have read call for a dry cure so I think that is the route I will take. After 5 to 7 days or whenever it gets firm I am going to smoke it for 3 hrs with either apple or pecan .... not sure yet.  But I am open to suggestions!  :) Not sure if I will take the internal temp to 150 either, I have seen some posts where the bacon is taken to a lower temp. More stuff to think about on my way to the store.
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: rexster on September 22, 2012, 09:34:57 AM
Instead of maple surpl, after the pork forms a pellicle, lightly rub it down with brown sugar. You won't be sorry
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: JZ on September 22, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
Thanks Rexter .... but I already got the maple syrup (expensive stuff) and will use it this time. The recipe I am using also has brown sugar in the brine. So I am hoping this will be similar to your suggestion. But maybe next time I will give your suggestion a try.

I do have a question for those in the know. I see that people cut their slabs into squares and trim off the odd shaped ends. Is this just for appearances or is there some other reason.????
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: rexster on September 22, 2012, 11:29:20 AM
I trim mine up so it can fit in Foodsaver bags. The trimmings I keep for seasoning. I do mine before curing and smoking. I usually do 4 full size bellies which gives me 8 pieces about 4 pounds apiece plus the ends
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: JZ on September 22, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
Thanks Rexter .... I didn't think about the packaging afterwards. I will do the same.

I would rather do more slabs at once too. But until I am sure I have found the recipe my family is happy with I don't want to make a big batch. Probably be kicking my a$$ after this for not doing a bigger batch. LOL ;D
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Toker on September 22, 2012, 12:20:01 PM
I also trim mine when i see too much fat is not touching the meat on the edges. This way, it avoid meatless slices.
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: ratherbboating on September 22, 2012, 01:16:31 PM
JZ the recipe you thinking about using is good.  But on temp settings.  Look at what 10.5 uses, that is what I have followed several times and it comes out good.
http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?542-Maple-Cured-Bacon
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: JZ on September 22, 2012, 01:33:06 PM
QuoteBut on temp settings.  Look at what 10.5 uses, that is what I have followed several times and it comes out good.

Thanks for that link. So which IT do you go to 140 or 150?
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Consooger on September 22, 2012, 06:56:12 PM
I use 10.5's maple cure, best bacon ever, however I only cold smoke my bacon, which probably doesnt help you. I have done bacon my first time around by cooking it and it came out great as well. You won't be sorry nor will you ever buy bacon in the store after this, be warned HAH!
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: ratherbboating on September 22, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
I go for an IT of least 150.  Most of the time, around 160.   Seems to turn out right for me.  Good coloring and smoke. and most important, TASTE.
My recent bacon:
http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=29805.0

Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: KyNola on September 22, 2012, 09:00:36 PM
I take my bacon to an IT of 150.  Someone will come along and correct me if I am wrong with what I am about to say but I think pork fat begins to render out at 152.
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Toker on September 22, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Personally, i take it out at 142 knowing that i never eat it raw.
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: rexster on September 22, 2012, 10:46:18 PM
This might help

http://www.amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/meat_science.html
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Consooger on September 23, 2012, 02:17:40 AM
Great site and knowledge for anyone
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: JZ on September 23, 2012, 08:49:04 AM
Thanks for all the replies and lots of info at the site Rexter provided.

Looks like I do not want to go over 150 and will likely go to either 145 or 150 for this first time. Got a week or so to think about it anyways.

Here is a pic of the slabs all wrapped up with the brine.

](http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/JZ-bucket/e154_zps0407dd21.jpg) (ftp://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/JZ-bucket/e154_zps0407dd21.jpg%5B/IMG)

I think I made a mistake when I mixed all of the ingredients together. It was such a thick paste it was hard to cover the slabs with it. I did my best to evenly coat the meat and used what was left to spread over the skin side. After the first overnight sit in the refer there is lots of juice and I made sure to roll it around to coat every part. Next time I think I will coat the slab with the dry ingredients first then pour the maple syrup over afterwards. Live and learn. ;D
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Consooger on September 23, 2012, 07:40:45 PM
no way buddy you did it right. It's supposed to look like paste. The ingredients are bringing the moisture out of the bacon which is why you'll have a lot of juice in the bag. DO NOT empty any of the juice. Flip, rub, rotate those bags daily and rub everything back into the bellies. Do so through the bag or else you'll make a big mess and only make your hands/arms sticky  :P
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: ratherbboating on September 25, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
Fox News is reporting that next year there will be a bacon shortage.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/09/25/industry-group-bacon-pork-shortage-unavoidable/?test=latestnews
I am going to stock up now  8)
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: Mark in Ottawa on September 25, 2012, 01:42:33 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Gah! Gonna have to fire up the smoker and stockpile!  ;D

Mark (in Ottawa)
Title: Re: Belly Bacon Virgin
Post by: ratherbboating on October 01, 2012, 08:05:53 AM
Now we are being told that there will not be a shortage, but a large price increase.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/10/01/bacon-shortage-may-be-hogwash-but-prices-will-still-rise/?intcmp=features
Price of animal feed has risen a lot in the past year and getting higher (I raise cattle).  Some due to drouth and some do to price of corn and some due to the price of fuel going up again.