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Title: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
Anyone use their cabelas grinder as their stuffer?  I'm gonna try out my first deer sausage run this weekend so I'm looking for any tips.

I like the smaller pepperoni size casings.  Bought some fibrous ones from b&p.  I hope fibrous will accept smoke ok?

Last thing.  How does internal temp define texture of the deer sausage?  I like a firmer texture if possible.

Thx!
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: watchdog56 on December 04, 2012, 09:34:38 AM
I have a small grinder I got at Gander Mountain. Can't remember the size but it was around $80. I tried stuffing with that and it took a looooonnnggg time. I broke down and bought a %3 stuffer from LEM and boy what a difference. Way faster and easy to clean. IMO a stuffer is the way to go. Stuffers suff- grinders-grind.
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: pmmpete on December 04, 2012, 09:54:35 AM
STLstyle asked, "How does internal temp define texture of the deer sausage?  I like a firmer texture if possible."  The reason you need to bring sausage to an internal temperature of 160 degrees, or to somewhat lower temperatures for longer periods of time, is to kill the microorganisms which can cause food poisoning.  There is some information about this issue on a recent thread,   http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=30643.0 .  So you need to get your sausages hot enough to kill microorganisms in order to produce safe sausages.  On the other hand, if you let the temperature of your sausages get above 160 degrees, you may melt the fat out of your sausages, which will screw them up badly.  So don't let your sausages get too hot.

I'll let people with more experience explain how you can adjust your recipe or add binders to produce more firm sausages.
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: Keymaster on December 04, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
Try and get someone to help you. It takes one person to feed the ground meat into the grinder and one person to fill the casings and run the power switch. I guarantee you if you try it alone it will probably be the last time your grinder stuffs casings one manned.
Title: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
I did buy the foot pedal attachment as on/off power for the grinder to attempt to make the stuffing easier.

For this smoke this will have to work...
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 04, 2012, 12:20:28 PM
There's a reason they call it a GRINDER and not a Stuffer!!  Just say'n OK back to my corner
Title: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
Before you go back to your corner,  what stuffer is ideal for DBS6 loads and your hanger system?  Size and brand please.  Thx!

If I get organized this weekend I'll take pics of my sausage adventure.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 04, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
If your going to use a grinder for stuffing wheather it be a Cabelas or LEM you will need the stuffer kits with the cyclone auger. Without this you will smear the fat in the meat and get the mix to hot thus making the sausage prone to a fat-out and dry meat.

Here is ths cyclone auger on my 1/2hp Cabelas.
Cyclone auger snaps to the front of the metal auger. you will not use a blade and plate here.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/2012%20sausage/cyaug1.jpg)

Stuffer needle slides over the cyclone.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/2012%20sausage/cyaug.jpg)

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/2012%20sausage/cyaug2.jpg)


Assembled stuffer needle.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/2012%20sausage/cyaug3.jpg)
Title: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 12:48:42 PM
That's the same grinder I have.  So you don't use the stuffer blade I see on the table with the stuffer? This setup is different than the instructions correct?

 
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 04, 2012, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 12:48:42 PM
That's the same grinder I have.  So you don't use the stuffer blade I see on the table with the stuffer? This setup is different than the instructions correct?



Thats called a stuffing star. You use it if you dont have the cyclone auger. It fits on the end of the metal auger keeping it centered in the auger throat, then tighten the ring down.

(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab242/nepas1/2012%20sausage/augstar.jpg)
Title: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
Thanks.  The cyclone setup came with the grinder.  I'll give it a shot.  We'll see if this thing is a multi tasker!

NePaSmoker, do you use this setup or do you prefer a stand alone stuffer? 
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: NePaSmoKer on December 04, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: STLstyle on December 04, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
Thanks.  The cyclone setup came with the grinder.  I'll give it a shot.  We'll see if this thing is a multi tasker!

NePaSmoker, do you use this setup or do you prefer a stand alone stuffer?

I use a LEM 5 lb vertical and a water stuffer.
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: Tenpoint5 on December 04, 2012, 03:42:08 PM

5lb Grizzly vertical and a water stuffer
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: Kevin A on December 04, 2012, 04:47:24 PM
I used to use my Cabela grinder fro stuffing as well as grinding.
It CAN and WILL work, but it's truly a pain.
A dedicated stuffer is soooooooooo much easier & makes the entire process more enjoyable.
Like the two previous posters before me (10.5 & Nepas), I use both a 5lb vertical stuffer or the much larger water-cannon stuffer.
Both are so much more efficient compared to stuffing with the cabela's grinder.

Stuffing chorizo via a grinder....... :-\
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/GuitarPix/Stuffer%20Stuff/Chorizo_grinder.jpg)
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: mez on December 04, 2012, 07:22:07 PM
Do you use the auger for all stuffing? I thought it was just for small sticks but it probably would work for all .
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: Consooger on December 04, 2012, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: Keymaster on December 04, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
Try and get someone to help you. It takes one person to feed the ground meat into the grinder and one person to fill the casings and run the power switch. I guarantee you if you try it alone it will probably be the last time your grinder stuffs casings one manned.


HAHAHAHAHA that's what my father in law has told me as well. HE said you're doing sausage, make sure im there or i will be out a stuffer and the beer will be gone in the fridge
Title: Re: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: drano on December 05, 2012, 05:39:46 PM
Like others said, yes it can be done.  And 2 people make it easier. 
Back in my early sausage days, I used a grinder attachment on a KitchenAid mixer.  I stuffed a couple batches with it.
Then I stopped in Cabelas one day.  Commercial stuffers on sale.  11 lb model went home with me.  Later I added the motor. 
Good luck using the grinder. 
But if your budget allows, I suggest adding a stuffer sometime in the future. 
Title: Cabelas Grinder as stuffer
Post by: STLstyle on December 05, 2012, 07:01:05 PM
Just gave Santa my XMAS list.  A 5lb stuffer is on it.  Keeping my fingers crossed...