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Title: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: renoman on January 07, 2014, 03:00:54 PM
Did the second element mod this afternoon. Nice little project. Took a couple of hours and I wired in a switch to turn off the second element if need be. I have a question though. Somewhere I read that you have to reprogram your Auber PID. Can someone explain?
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: rexster on January 07, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
This is on the Auber website. Straight from the horse's mouth. I'm not sure if you have to be a member or not to see the message, but it's free registration and more info on the Bradleys
http://www.auberins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=64&sid=d6b7606b0ceb9fd091205072440e01ed (http://www.auberins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=64&sid=d6b7606b0ceb9fd091205072440e01ed)
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: renoman on January 07, 2014, 05:06:17 PM
And just how do you change the P value. I have to admit that the Auber PID manual is a steep learning curve. It is the most poorly written thing I have ever read. I wonder if they ever thought about who was actually buying these things.
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: GusRobin on January 07, 2014, 05:08:58 PM
Try this post

http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=18346.0 (http://forum.bradleysmoker.com/index.php?topic=18346.0)
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: rexster on January 07, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
Renoman, it took me a couple of months to really realize how the settings worked. One the light went off above my head and all was well. Stick with it............
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: Tenpoint5 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we just have a big discussion on NOT needing a PID with the addition of a second element? That nothing would happen to your digital controls. Now your PUCK ADVANCE won't work right as noted in your other thread, and now your using a PID to try and circumvent the digital controller. I for one am totally lost here as to what we have accomplished or are trying to accomplish.
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: TedEbear on January 08, 2014, 05:08:11 AM
Quote from: renoman on January 07, 2014, 03:00:54 PMI have a question though. Somewhere I read that you have to reprogram your Auber PID. Can someone explain?

Which PID controller did you install?  I have the one that is installed in the SG.  When I added a second element I ran the autotune and let the PID configure itself for the new setup.
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: renoman on January 08, 2014, 06:29:22 AM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we just have a big discussion on NOT needing a PID with the addition of a second element? That nothing would happen to your digital controls. Now your PUCK ADVANCE won't work right as noted in your other thread, and now your using a PID to try and circumvent the digital controller. I for one am totally lost here as to what we have accomplished or are trying to accomplish.

I had ordered the PID prior to that discussion. I ordered it to CIRCUMVENT the TEMP SWINGS. My puck controller started acting up well before that. I just moved my smoker into my shop to install the second element and figure out what is wrong with the puck advancer. How can you be totally lost?
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: renoman on January 08, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
Quote from: TedEbear on January 08, 2014, 05:08:11 AM
Quote from: renoman on January 07, 2014, 03:00:54 PMI have a question though. Somewhere I read that you have to reprogram your Auber PID. Can someone explain?

Which PID controller did you install?  I have the one that is installed in the SG.  When I added a second element I ran the autotune and let the PID configure itself for the new setup.

I've got the single probe plug and play.
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: rexster on January 09, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we just have a big discussion on NOT needing a PID with the addition of a second element? That nothing would happen to your digital controls. Now your PUCK ADVANCE won't work right as noted in your other thread, and now your using a PID to try and circumvent the digital controller. I for one am totally lost here as to what we have accomplished or are trying to accomplish.


For me, I didn't run right out and ditch my Auber dual PID. You had someone stirring people up just for the fun of it or trying to make a point when there didn't need to be one. I followed the tried and true procedures for adding second element and PID and couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: renoman on January 09, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: rexster on January 09, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we just have a big discussion on NOT needing a PID with the addition of a second element? That nothing would happen to your digital controls. Now your PUCK ADVANCE won't work right as noted in your other thread, and now your using a PID to try and circumvent the digital controller. I for one am totally lost here as to what we have accomplished or are trying to accomplish.


For me, I didn't run right out and ditch my Auber dual PID. You had someone stirring people up just for the fun of it or trying to make a point when there didn't need to be one. I followed the tried and true procedures for adding second element and PID and couldn't be happier.

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Title: Re: Added a second element now a PID question
Post by: Tenpoint5 on January 10, 2014, 12:52:35 AM
Quote from: rexster on January 09, 2014, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: Tenpoint5 on January 07, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we just have a big discussion on NOT needing a PID with the addition of a second element? That nothing would happen to your digital controls. Now your PUCK ADVANCE won't work right as noted in your other thread, and now your using a PID to try and circumvent the digital controller. I for one am totally lost here as to what we have accomplished or are trying to accomplish.


For me, I didn't run right out and ditch my Auber dual PID. You had someone stirring people up just for the fun of it or trying to make a point when there didn't need to be one. I followed the tried and true procedures for adding second element and PID and couldn't be happier.

I didn't have anyone stirring up trouble about doing a second element mod.  I am in  the if you add an element you add a PID group. I was just trying to figure out what's going on.  Renoman was a big supporter in that thread and even agreed to be the tester from what I remember. Then there's a post his puck advance doesn't work and another post about a PID to control everything. I was just confused as to was he trying to do. Run it without a PID. Then started using a PID when things went south. As an experiment that went wrong or what? Either way once you modify your Bradley your on your own no more warranty.