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Smoking Techniques => Curing => Topic started by: Northern_Hunting_Mom on March 15, 2014, 03:58:38 PM

Title: Curing bacon with only salt and sugar
Post by: Northern_Hunting_Mom on March 15, 2014, 03:58:38 PM
I didn't add saltpetre or any other type of curing agent to my bacon cure. Just 1 cup of coarse salt to 3 cups of a syrup/brown sugar blend with black pepper added. The last batch I made, I didn't add any other curing agent, I didn't use syrup the last time, just brown sugar. I didn't add many other spices either. I use a vacuum sealer to cure. It prevents any leakage into my fridge.

I am guessing that the meat may turn a grey brown (not stay pink) but it should still cure just fine. I do plan to smoke it longer, 4-6 hours (possibly more if it doesn't firm up some) and to ensure the IT gets to 150. Can anybody see a problem with this? It is very difficult to get Morton Tender, Prague powder etc where I am. I do have 3-4lb of saltpetre the pharmacist brought in for me. Not planning to make any bombs. ;D
Title: Re: Curing bacon with only salt and sugar
Post by: WoodlawnSmoker on March 15, 2014, 04:11:32 PM
I hear you about the difficulties in finding cure.  I finally ordered the Prague Powder Cure #1 online from Stuffers in Vancouver.  They were good to deal with and you won't have to worry about converting appropriate amounts and percentages.
Title: Re: Curing bacon with only salt and sugar
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 16, 2014, 03:11:52 AM
What temperature are you cooking the bacon?

The rule of thumb for food safety, when curing with salt only as a dry cure, is to use a minimum of 2% - 3% of the green weight of the meat. Other sources state to use 3% - 5%.

For example, if you have 10 pounds (160 ounces) of bacon, using the recommended minimum amounts; you should use 3.2 - 4.8 ounces of salt.

Saltpetre (Potassium Nitrate) is not used at the same rate as Morton Tender Quick, or Prague Powder #1, and it requires longer curing time. You will get more consistent results using Morton TQ or Prague Powder #1.

Curing Salts (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?736-Curing-Salts&p=1126#post1126)
Title: Re: Curing bacon with only salt and sugar
Post by: manfromplaid on March 16, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
if u are close to edmonton  they stock prague powder and all u will need at halfordrhides  8629-126 ave  or www.halfordsmailorder.com  good luck
Title: Re: Curing bacon with only salt and sugar
Post by: Northern_Hunting_Mom on March 17, 2014, 09:37:57 PM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on March 16, 2014, 03:11:52 AM
What temperature are you cooking the bacon?

The rule of thumb for food safety, when curing with salt only as a dry cure, is to use a minimum of 2% - 3% of the green weight of the meat. Other sources state to use 3% - 5%.

For example, if you have 10 pounds (160 ounces) of bacon, using the recommended minimum amounts; you should use 3.2 - 4.8 ounces of salt.

Saltpetre (Potassium Nitrate) is not used at the same rate as Morton Tender Quick, or Prague Powder #1, and it requires longer curing time. You will get more consistent results using Morton TQ or Prague Powder #1.

Curing Salts (http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?736-Curing-Salts&p=1126#post1126)

I should be just fine. I went by volume with coarse canning salt. I just weighed 1 cup of the coarse canning salt and it is 8.4oz. It came to a minimum of 33oz of salt to cure 47lbs of pork bellies. 4 cups of salt, 12 cups of syrup and brown sugar mixed and cracked peppercorns. Overhaul every day and maybe let it sit for an extra day or 3. I will smoke it in batches to make sure the smoker gets up to temp quickly.

Many of the recipes I was given or found on the internet was with saltpetre. I have only used it to make corned beef and corned venison so far. I was surprised when the pharmacist gave me a bag that big. At the rate I use it, my grandkids will be able to use it.

I will call Halford Hides tomorrow. I checked their website and it only shows Prague #2. I am starting to see more recipes that use Prague #1 and #2 so it is worth it to get some. Dry curing sausage that is not meant to be cooked kinda scares me. I think I would prefer to stick with smoked types that get up to a safe IT. Who kows though, maybe when both the kids are out of the house, I will use part of a bedroom to take some risks.
Title: Re: Curing bacon with only salt and sugar
Post by: Habanero Smoker on March 18, 2014, 01:55:47 AM
You should be alright, with this post only mentioning 1 cup of salt, and your other post on inquiring about the difference between a rub and a cure, I wasn't sure of your level of knowledge in this area.

With your recipes that contain saltpetre, you can easily convert them to use Prague Powder #1, and reduce your curing times.