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Title: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 07, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Hey guys, anyone using the WSD-1203CHP dual probe PID with the dual 500 watt element mod on New OBS ( BS611 ) ? The current dual probe on Auber website is the 1204 , which replaces the 1203.
I have a new 1203 I have finally taken out of box ( about a year after purchasing ).... but it has been replaced with the 1204 model which is good for 1450 watts.
Near as I can tell the 1203 should be good for 1330 - 1400 watts but Auber sales guy keeps saying its good for 500 watts but won't commit to saying it will handle the 2 elements either way. Thanks in advance for any replies. I also read the 1203 is rated for 12 amps and the 1204 is rated for 13 amps. I think I should be fine, you figure ?
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 07, 2014, 02:16:12 PM
I guess if anyone could look at the bottom of their dual probe and see if its a 1203 or a 1204 if they are running the dual 500 watt element mod. I would feel more confident if there are some 1203's out there working just fine. ( not sure when they went to the 1204 but I am sure it wasn't any more than a year ago or so ).   ??? Thanks.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: GusRobin on May 07, 2014, 06:52:11 PM
I know a number of folks that use the 1203 with dual elements with no problem. I had used it but had to send it for repair twice. Not sure if I just had a bad unit or if it couldn't handle the load. At that time (a few years ago) Auber had a problem with a certain lot of PIDs. I made a deal on the last time I had to return and got the larger unit. Haven't had the problem since. So I don't know if replacing the bad unit or going to the higher rated unit solved the issue. I guess this response isn't much help, but that is my experience.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 07, 2014, 08:15:08 PM
Thanks. And can you tell me off hand ...if you want the Auber pid to NOT control the smoke generator....how to exactly hook it up please ? I have seen 2 different ways of connecting the components together and am trying to figure out the correct method.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: GusRobin on May 07, 2014, 09:02:22 PM
hook the smoke generator directly to the outlet
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 08, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
Yep sounds good. And I assume the Auber PID has 1 cord to the OBS cabinet ( in addition to it plugging into ac power as well ) but NO cord from PID to the SG then, correct ?
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: tailfeathers on May 08, 2014, 11:19:08 AM
Correct. SG plugs in to the wall outlet, pid plugs into the wall outlet, cabinet plugs into the back of the pid.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: tskeeter on May 08, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
Panthur, I've been using a dual probe plug and play for a couple of years, so I assume that it's a 1203.  Haven't had any problems with it on my dual element six rack.  Only using the PID to control the heating elements.  The smoker generator is plugged directly into an outlet.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 08, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Thanks guys. Finally clarification on the hook up part. I am certain on Auber website it shows a cable from PID to SG even in the part where PID does NOT control SG. So PID and SG plug into power source and one cord from PID to tower. ( NO cable from PID to SG )  Correct ?   ???   I have a new OBS ( not the digital model ).
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: GusRobin on May 08, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
The difference is:
Control SG with PID: Power goes into PID and out to Cabinet and out to SG.

No Control of SG with PID: Power goes into SG and out to PID; then from PID to cabinet.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 09, 2014, 04:56:36 AM
Thanks Gus. But with method #2, ( where pid does not control SG ), the pid controller still plugs into ac power AS WELL as the SG plugging into ac power ?
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: GusRobin on May 09, 2014, 05:27:32 AM
No. The SG plugs into the AC outlet. The PID plugs into the SG. The cabinet plugs into the PID.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 09, 2014, 05:46:10 AM
Thank you. So like this pic then ? It doesn't even show an AC power cord on the controller. It just hangs there and does not plug into an outlet then ?

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q586/Panthur11/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/F84F5E4B-AF6B-48C3-A7CD-613DD377B87A.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/Panthur11/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/F84F5E4B-AF6B-48C3-A7CD-613DD377B87A.jpg.html)

Or like this 2nd pic ?

(http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q586/Panthur11/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/CE6FFDD9-BD8C-4D62-BE7F-E2BF20CB8A1D.jpg) (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/Panthur11/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-05/CE6FFDD9-BD8C-4D62-BE7F-E2BF20CB8A1D.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: GusRobin on May 09, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: Panthur on May 09, 2014, 05:46:10 AM
Thank you. So like this pic then ? It doesn't even show an AC power cord on the controller. It just hangs there and does not plug into an outlet then ?
Not sure what you mean. First pic. left to right: You have the ac power cord from outlet to the SG. You have the a power cord (red) from the SG to the PID Controller. Power cord from PID to cabinet (teal). Two sensor cords from PID (thin black lines).

So which cord are you referring to that just hangs there?
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: tailfeathers on May 09, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
From looking at the diagrams and written instructions it would appear to me as though you can hook it up either way so long as you do not plan to control the SG with the pid.
Title: Re: Auber Dual Probe PID Question
Post by: Panthur on May 09, 2014, 03:40:31 PM
Gus, the cord I mean is the factory cord that comes out of the PID controller with the 110 volt male end on it ( not one that plugs into pid - the one that comes out of back and is part of the unit ). That cord is not depicted in top picture but is in the second picture.
Tailfeathers, I believe you are correct. After multiple e-mails to Auber sales, I finally sent these pics and the guy is telling me it can be connected either of those 2 ways ( for pid NOT to control SG ).
Thanks guys.