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Title: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on July 29, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
I am going to do the 900 Watt mod and will be changing all the wiring inside to a 14 guage wire. How many feet do I need to change everything?

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Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: Alanfromwis on July 30, 2015, 05:25:41 AM
  Get 10 ft & you will have enough in case you make a mistake, there will be enough  to redo. 
   Alan
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on July 30, 2015, 05:31:58 AM
perfect thanks, Local stores won't sell me some so I need to find a source online.
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: manfromplaid on July 31, 2015, 05:49:34 AM
you should be able to find high temp wire at any appliance repair or parts store. in Edmonton I found mine at AMRE supply on 75st
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: GusRobin on July 31, 2015, 08:12:16 PM
you can get it at Allied Kenco

http://www.alliedkenco.com/367.aspx (http://www.alliedkenco.com/367.aspx)
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: dave01 on August 01, 2015, 04:32:14 AM
I have well over 100 smokes since upgrading to the 900 watt element, I never upgraded the wire and wonder why you would?
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: TedEbear on August 01, 2015, 06:49:48 AM
Same here. I'm been running the dual 500W element mod (1000W total) for at least 3 years and the original wiring is still doing fine. 
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 01, 2015, 07:25:31 AM
It's recommend to change the wire to a higher guage, im sure the existing wire works fine.

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Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: beefmann on August 02, 2015, 11:00:46 AM
when i  did my upgrade, i also upgraded the  wiring to  14 gage some 8 years ago and never looked  back, never had a  problem  with the  wire or the heater,
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 02, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
K thanks,  do you know off by hand what terminals you used? Want to get everything before I open up the unit. I know I need terminal rings for the heater but what about the when connecting it to the back of the plug? What size of these do I need If any http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0071NC78C/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1438558108&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=High+temp+wire (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0071NC78C/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1438558108&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=High+temp+wire)

Also the sizes for these http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AJSAJA4/ref=pd_aw_sim_328_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZNCK264KBV9WP85RYFR (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AJSAJA4/ref=pd_aw_sim_328_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZNCK264KBV9WP85RYFR)

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Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: Toker on August 02, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
Rings terminal number 8 stud with 14 awg and spades connectors ( Quick Disconnect), 1/4 stud with 14 awg. The awg depends on the seize of your wire. For wire, check for MGT high temp wire (rated higher temperature).
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 03, 2015, 06:45:33 PM
Thank you

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Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 03, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: Toker on August 02, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
Rings terminal number 8 stud with 14 awg and spades connectors ( Quick Disconnect), 1/4 stud with 14 awg. The awg depends on the seize of your wire. For wire, check for MGT high temp wire (rated higher temperature).
Is this all I need

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0071NC5NO/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0071NC5NO/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

Would this size fit the 900 Watt element connector bolts?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005GDFO16/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005GDFO16/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007CLZAB4/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FWWCVO9POVQF (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007CLZAB4/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FWWCVO9POVQF)

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Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: Toker on August 03, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Oops! these are for 2x 500 sorry. The quick disconnects stay the same but i have no idea about the rings connectors. Sorry again for my mistake.
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: Salmonsmoker on August 04, 2015, 08:22:26 AM
Ghost, The terminals on the element are a little over 3/16" dia. (I don't have a metric scale handy)or .187".  8 gauge has a dia. of .1719" or 4.37 mm. 7 ga. has a dia. of .187", 6 ga, .2031.  Since the stud size measures a little over 3/16" I suspect that 7ga would take a little reaming. The 6 ga would be about perfect.
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 04, 2015, 11:41:10 AM
okay thanks so something like this would fit the 900 watt element http://www.amazon.com/Morris-Products-11036-Terminal-Insulated/dp/B005GDFNY4/ref=sr_1_9?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1438713506&sr=1-9&keywords=non+insulated+ring+terminal+%236 (http://www.amazon.com/Morris-Products-11036-Terminal-Insulated/dp/B005GDFNY4/ref=sr_1_9?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1438713506&sr=1-9&keywords=non+insulated+ring+terminal+%236)
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: Salmonsmoker on August 05, 2015, 07:46:30 AM
Check!
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 06, 2015, 04:20:37 PM
If I upgrade the existing wiring should I use the inline fuse and the replacement temperature sensor that is already there, or should I by pass them? I have the original Bradley smoker

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Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: dave01 on August 06, 2015, 05:50:05 PM
you should leave them in place even tho it will be the smaller wire than you upgraded to
Title: Re: How much heat wire do I need
Post by: ghosttown on August 06, 2015, 06:02:31 PM
So should I connect the new wire to the old?

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