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Title: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: PepperJax on September 22, 2006, 05:29:14 AM
I received my Bradley last week and have used it three times already. The flavor is amazing and I appreciate the recipes posted here.

My problem is I cannot get my 4-rack digital to the temperature designated. Last night I tried to preheat the unit to 200 and it only got to 160 empty after 90 minutes. I smoked some sausage and burgers following the 1 1/2 hours per lb rule. At the end of the cooking, the Bradley still had not hit 200 (got to 180).

All the connections are good and the smoking side works perfect. I am using a medium duty exterior extension that is rated for 15 amps. Any ideas on the problem?

Thanks,

Lee ???
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: robs on September 22, 2006, 06:14:21 AM
I think somethings wrong, maybe the high-limit cutoff swtich. I would call Bradley and tell them what's up.

good luck.
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: iceman on September 22, 2006, 08:36:32 AM
Is it an old style? If so make sure the slider is all the way over for pre heating.
If it's a digital well I would have to let others that have one answer this qusetion.
In either case, a call to Bradley is quick, cheap, and most times a cure. ;)
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: manxman on September 22, 2006, 12:29:40 PM
Got nothing really to add to the other two posts PepperJax other than to say welcome to the forum and hope you get the problem sorted quickly. Have you got any other items on the extension cord? Have you tried plugging it directly into the mains socket just to see if that makes any difference to the temperature?

Let us know what Bradley had to say.
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: MWS on September 22, 2006, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: manxman on September 22, 2006, 12:29:40 PM
Have you tried plugging it directly into the mains socket just to see if that makes any difference to the temperature?

My guess would be the extension cord. A pal of mine had the same problem till he plugged it directly into the main socket. It worked fine after that. I would follow Manxman's suggestion.
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: Chez Bubba on September 22, 2006, 04:37:48 PM
How long is the cord? It sounds like it technically meets minimum requirements but might not have the capacity to deliver when the Bradley calls for a full juice load. I use a 10 gauge 16ft with no problems.

Extension cord aside, is there anything else drawing power on the circuit you're plugging into?

Kirk

Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: bubbagump on September 22, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: Chez Bubba on September 22, 2006, 04:37:48 PM
How long is the cord? It sounds like it technically meets minimum requirements but might not have the capacity to deliver when the Bradley calls for a full juice load. I use a 10 gauge 16ft with no problems.

When the Bradley calls for full juice, it is still only a meager 4 amps.. A hair dryer will draw 3 times that amount. Your 15 amp. cord is more than adequate for your smoker. Unless, of course it's in bad condition. A very simple way to rule out your cord is to plug your smoker directly into a receptacle without using the extension, if you have the same problem then it's not the cord. Keep in mind that the digital smoker has electronics in it that the original doesn't. If you were having a problem with power you would notice the digital display flickering or fading in and out. My guess is that's it's something internal to the smoker. 


Bubbagump
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: PepperJax on September 23, 2006, 08:51:33 AM
:D

Thanks for all the help. I got up early today and tried everyone's diagnostic tests. The good news is that the Bradley is working fine.

The bad news is the ****!!! electrician that wired my sunroom screwed up the outlet in my garage. We have a family friend who is a contractor come over this morning. He said that the electrician had not properly rewired some of the circuit breakers and I was lucky the house didn't burn down. Appently PATTERSON HOME IMPROVEMENTS uses sh**ty electrical contractors.

Cost to have friend fix firetrap fuse box: 1 case of Bass Ale and some smoked Habaneros

If ever in Jacksonville come over for some cold beer and some very hot smoked peppers.  :-*
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: asa on September 23, 2006, 10:01:56 AM
PepperJax -
Glad you caught that in time, and welcome to the forum. Do you by any chance mingle with any of the North to Central Fla bluegrass crowd? If so, email me off line to chat further.
Regards,
     Art
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: iceman on September 23, 2006, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: PepperJax on September 23, 2006, 08:51:33 AM
:D
Appently PATTERSON HOME IMPROVEMENTS uses sh**ty electrical contractors.
Hmmmmm............... must be the same idiots that wired my brothers house. It took me two weeks to rewire and get it back to code for him. Sure glad you caught it before any harm came. Smoke on PepperJax ;D
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: bubbagump on September 23, 2006, 10:29:23 AM

Good news PepperJax. Glad to hear the smoker is fine and your wiring is fixed.  :)

It's hard for me to comprehend how some contractors stay in business......or out of jail.  >:(


Bubbagump
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: manxman on September 23, 2006, 01:13:35 PM
QuoteHe said that the electrician had not properly rewired some of the circuit breakers and I was lucky the house didn't burn down.

Whilst it is good news about the BS that is seriously not funny...... SOOO glad you got it all sorted with a successful outcome. The alternative does not bear thinking about.

Now you can relax and enjoy your BS! :D
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: West Coast Kansan on September 23, 2006, 01:24:01 PM
Trying to remember, Is this the second time the Bradley Smoker has led to the ID of a serious electrical issue> This one reads like a double lug in the electrical box, i have in my head another miss wire report. 

Great it was worked out before something tragic happened. Welcome!
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: TomG on September 23, 2006, 05:25:43 PM
PJax, Just so I can sleep tonight, what specifically was it that prevented your circuits, however they were wired, from being unable to deliver a "meager 4 amps" to your Bradley?  Some how, once and for all,  the extension cord myth has to be busted.  Guys, they're just wires :o :o ;D
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: owrstrich on September 23, 2006, 05:33:20 PM
i have used an extension cord everytime i have smoked... everytime...

its a big fat 15 footer... everytime...

you gotta eat... everytime...

owrstrich...
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: TomG on September 23, 2006, 06:50:04 PM
And A.P. smokes in motels Patel where the mains are 50 amps for 22 units.  It's the only way you can smell curry, watch cable TV and appreciate the subtle harmony of over used ice machines in an air conditioned room for $25 a night? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: West Coast Kansan on September 24, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
TomG, I thought the issue on extension cords was related to condition, length, gauge, combined with the wide variation in homes people who buy electric smokers may live in...causing heat in circuits. I dont see many 60 amp houses anymore but still a lot of 100 amp homes (usually the prewar 60s that got upgraded to 100s just after the war). These houses were never designed for electric clothes dryers or many other "modern appliances". The concern would be the 5 amps the bradly draws over a long period of time on a shared household circuit (expanded to accomadate modern appliances, double and tripple lugged like crazy in the breaker panel). This lousy wiring (That I see a lot even in newer homes with 200 amp service) gets complicated by a cheap 100ft long extension cord that has corroded connections.  owrstrich (AP) uses a short fat one for this reason right- or am I trying to figure it out and just making this stuff up?
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: iceman on September 25, 2006, 08:57:10 AM
I know this might sound kind of off the wall but I always equated extension cords to a garden hose. :D
Okay, now that you stopped laughing let me explain this kitchen type of logic. ;D
Electricity = Water Pressure
Amps = Water Flow
Wire Size = Hose Size
The bigger the hose / wire, the more flow / amps you can pass through it.
Drop the hose size / wire size, and flow / amperage becomes restricted thus causing friction / heat (less juice).
Maybe I'm way off base but it seems to work for me.
I think this is a case were bigger usually is better.
Just my 2.2309 cents, Besides everyone needs a good laugh once in a while. ;D
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: Arcs_n_Sparks on September 25, 2006, 12:53:43 PM
iceman,

Very good analogy. I would add: voltage = water pressure

Arcs_n_Sparks
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: iceman on September 25, 2006, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: Arcs_n_Sparks on September 25, 2006, 12:53:43 PM
iceman,

Very good 0ogy. I would add: voltage = water pressure

Arcs_n_Sparks
Opps, Thanks Arcs
Title: Re: Can't get to temperature - new and need help
Post by: TomG on September 25, 2006, 01:55:17 PM
WCK and Iceman you won't get an argument from me.  I never got past the Oooommmmm! in Ohm's Law.

Two things I do know:

1)Owrstich isn't the Forum's only agent provocateur. ;)

Quote from: bubbagump on September 22, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
When the Bradley calls for full juice, it is still only a meager 4 amps.. A hair dryer will draw 3 times that amount. Your 15 amp. cord is more than adequate for your smoker.. 
Bubbagump

And of course;

2) If it has anything to do with energy failure, it's Bush's fault.

;D