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Title: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on January 12, 2007, 06:23:25 AM
A couple of friends and I are getting back into homebrewing after a long break(too long).  Anybody have a recipe they particularly like?  I know about the smoked porter that mws posted.  Sounds good, but I am the only one of my group that really sounded interested in it.  Looks like a solo project there.  I should also mention that at this point we are only set up for partial mash/grain brewing. 

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: winemakers on January 12, 2007, 11:21:30 AM
Charlie Papazian has been the guru for my homebrewing.  His books are a fun read as well as recipies that are easy to follow from all extract to full mash.

And Malc, if you are ever up near Macedonia (north of Akron), Leeners brew works is a great store (www.leeners.com, I 271 and Route 8).


mld
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on January 12, 2007, 12:32:46 PM
http://www.brew-monkey.com/

http://www.northernbrewer.com/

Hi Malc,

These two sites are a gold mine of information, recipes, equipment and supplies. Both have forums with knowledgable members that can answer any questions.

Quote from: Malc on January 12, 2007, 06:23:25 AM
I should also mention that at this point we are only set up for partial mash/grain brewing. 

It doesnt take much more to have an all grain system.  Just a couple of food grade 5 gallon buckets for your mash/lauter-tun and your in business. You can simply drill a bunch of holes in the bottom of one bucket and place that in a bucket with a spigot or hose coming out. Instant lauter-tun.  I can mash and sparge up to 15 pounds of grain.

Here's an example of one system you can buy for $50. You can make your own for 1/4 of that.

(http://www.northernbrewer.com/pics/fullsize/basic-ags.jpg)

I'm brewing a double IPA Saturday. I'll finish with three gallons of sweet wort which will soon become a full bodied high alcohol hoppy monster ale.  :P ;D

Quote from: Malc on January 12, 2007, 06:23:25 AM
I know about the smoked porter that mws posted.  Sounds good, but I am the only one of my group that really sounded interested in it. 

My smoked Porter turned out fantastic and was a big hit over Christmas. When I asked guests if they would like to try one, I would always sense hesitation, but after the first taste, they were raving about it. I also gave away a bunch of 22 oz bottles to workmates for Christmas. I think they will be expecting this every year now  ;) Only 4 - 22 oz bottles left, I will miss it when its gone. :'(

Smoked Porter sounds strange but tastes great IMHO




Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Scotty-G on January 12, 2007, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: mws on January 12, 2007, 12:32:46 PM
Smoked Porter sounds strange but tastes great IMHO

Hey Mike,
Smoked Porter sounds pretty good.  I've been brewing chocolate porters every now and then with some good results.
I am tempted next time to try smoked chocolate porter.  mmmmmm  The best of both worlds  ;D

Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: tsquared on January 12, 2007, 05:20:37 PM
YOu boys are putting me to shame. I haven't made home brew for years. (Too many good local micro breweries here in Victoria, at least that's my excuse.)
T2
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Consiglieri on January 12, 2007, 05:30:40 PM
I agree that Papazian recipes rock.  One of my favorites from his book is an IPA:

7 lbs light malt extract
1 lb crystal malt
1/8 lb toasted malt

Remove the grain befor the boil begins to roll.  Once boiling add 3-4 oz fuggles or Cascade hops.  When the wort is finished, add 1 oz Cascade hops for 15 minutes of steeping.

Orignal gravity:1.055-1.065.  Typically yields a full bodied ale with 5.5-6.5 percent Alkyhol

Getting thirsty over here.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Consiglieri on January 12, 2007, 05:32:51 PM
MWS: posted before I saw yours.  Only thought to add to your plan: start the ribs 3 hours earlier and make sure you have plenty of the last brew available during Saturday's "work."

Cheers.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on January 13, 2007, 05:36:28 AM
Thanks to all.  This looks like the plan:  we are brewing two styles, an ESB, which we have tried before and an Amber Lager.  This will be the first foray into lager, so wish me luck.  I will post everything soon.

winemakers: I will have to check that place out.  I am fortunate enough to have a homebrew supply right in Struthers about ten blocks from my house, which makes it nice.

mws: Now that smoked porter is definitely on the list.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: acords on January 13, 2007, 06:57:52 AM
http://www.northernbrewer.com/
(http://www.northernbrewer.com/)

I'm lucky enough to have this about 20 minutes away.  While I don't brew my own, they sell plenty of kegging supplies.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on January 13, 2007, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 13, 2007, 05:36:28 AM
mws: Now that smoked porter is definitely on the list.
Malc

Malc, with my next batch of Smoked Porter, I think I'll add 4 shots of espresso. Let me know how your lagering goes.

This morning I will be curing 6 lbs of pork shoulder for cottage bacon, then spend 5-6 hours brewing my IPA. I decided not to do the Double IPA (too much time, too little ale).

The house should smell like a brewery for a couple of days  ;D

IPA Recipe

Grains
10 lb - Maris Otter Pale Malt (UK)
1 lb - Victory Malt
0.5 lb - Munich Malt
0.5 Medium Crystal Malt (65L)
0.5 Cara amber
Hops
1.5 oz Columbus (90 mins)
1 oz Cascade (60 mins)
1 oz Cascade (30 mins)
1 oz Willamette (10 min steep)
1 oz Willamette dry hop
Yeast
1056 American Ale (liquid Wyeast brand)

This should yield 5 gallons of ale with an Original Gravity of about 1.050-1.070 and an IBU between 50-70 (very hoppy)

EDIT Malc, heres a good reference for smoking your own grains and a recipe for smoked porter (Partial Mash)

http://www.byo.com/feature/597.html





Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on January 14, 2007, 09:18:02 PM
Quote from: mws on January 13, 2007, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: Malc on January 13, 2007, 05:36:28 AM
mws: Now that smoked porter is definitely on the list.
Malc

Malc, with my next batch of Smoked Porter, I think I'll add 4 shots of espresso. Let me know how your lagering goes.

This morning I will be curing 6 lbs of pork shoulder for cottage bacon, then spend 5-6 hours brewing my IPA. I decided not to do the Double IPA (too much time, too little ale).

The house should smell like a brewery for a couple of days  ;D

IPA Recipe

Grains
10 lb - Maris Otter Pale Malt (UK)
1 lb - Victory Malt
0.5 lb - Munich Malt
0.5 Medium Crystal Malt (65L)
0.5 Cara amber
Hops
1.5 oz Columbus (90 mins)
1 oz Cascade (60 mins)
1 oz Cascade (30 mins)
1 oz Willamette (10 min steep)
1 oz Willamette dry hop
Yeast
1056 American Ale (liquid Wyeast brand)

This should yield 5 gallons of ale with an Original Gravity of about 1.050-1.070 and an IBU between 50-70 (very hoppy)

EDIT Malc, heres a good reference for smoking your own grains and a recipe for smoked porter (Partial Mash)

http://www.byo.com/feature/597.html

Thanks for the link mws.  I can't wait to try this.  Allow me to tap the knowledge of all of you one more time.  I have a couple of pounds of spent grains from the process.  My buddies and I got to talking about using them, and I said I would make some pretzels or bread or something out of them.  I found a recipe for pretzels and a couple for breads using the grain.  Anybody ever do this, or have a particular recipe they like.  Again, thanks to all.  Lots of great info, links, etc....  It is now after midnight and I just finished the brewing.  Too tired now, but full details are coming.  Goodnight, sleep tight, etc.....

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on January 15, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
I was in a brewpub awhile back that made meatballs using their spent grains. I usually compost mine and the wild birds like it.

Smoked spent grain meatballs........hmmmmmm an idea.  ;)

EDIT:

You got me thinking Malc, I found this site for cooking with spent grains.
http://www.breworganic.com/recipes/Cooking-Recipes.html
They have recipes for cookies, veggie burgers, potatoe cakes, bread and granola. I'm going to save some grains after my next brew session and try some of these. Cheers




Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: iceman on January 15, 2007, 12:44:10 PM
A bunch of local bakers are always selling spent grain bread too. Dang good stuff IMO. :P
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on January 16, 2007, 06:52:39 PM
Brew #1  Far Out ESB(from Brewmasters Bible)
Grains:-steeped at 150oF for 40mins.
8oz. Gambrinus Honey malt
4 oz. Belgian biscuit malt
4oz. Belgian aromatic malt
8 oz. Scottish 80oL crystal malt
4oz. wheat solids
4oz. flaked maize
Extract:
6lbs. light DME
Hops:
60mins-.5oz. Pride of Ringwood pellets and .5oz. Phoenix pellets
20mins.-.5oz. Kent Goldings, 1t. irish moss, and 2t. gypsum
0mins.- .5oz. Progress pellets
Wyeast 1275

Brew#2 "Famous" Amber Lager (Brewmasters Bible)
Grains:-started in cold water and removed just before boiling
.5C 20L Crystal malt
.5C 60L Crystal malt
.5C 90L Crystal malt
Extract:
3lbs. light DME
3lbs Coopers light malt syrup
Hops:
60mins-1.5oz. Kent Goldings pellets(replaced with WGV)
30mins-.5oz. Cascade hop pellets
10mins.-.5oz. Tettanger hop pellets
1/2t. Irish moss at 45mins.
Dry Lager Yeast

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on January 16, 2007, 08:06:19 PM
Have you decided what your going to do with the spent grains Malc?
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on January 17, 2007, 05:29:18 AM
Quote from: mws on January 16, 2007, 08:06:19 PM
Have you decided what your going to do with the spent grains Malc?
I was a little worried about what that flaked maize would do to the pretzels, as I could not find any reference to including it.  So, I didn't do anything this time.  My plan is to brew another batch as soon as these are ready to bottle.  Then I will make some pretzels.  Of course, I will post the results.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on February 03, 2007, 08:01:17 PM
I have an IDEA for tomorrow....................

India Dark Esspresso Ale

I'm going to indulge my hobbies...  Brew beer, smoke pulled pork and watching football.... ;D
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Consiglieri on February 03, 2007, 11:05:12 PM
On my end, the pork has been on for 4 hours.  Have a Czech lager or two on ice, some left over Christmas spiced, a few IPA, and a couple of brown ales on ice.  And for the panzies, some decent microbrews.

C'mon Colts!  Gonna love Sunday!
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 12, 2007, 04:49:09 AM
Malc;
I know you are a fan of Samuel Adams beer. You may already know about this. I saw a commercial promoting a home brew contest. I believe this is the link to this years entry form.
http://www.samueladams.com/promotions.aspx

Just click on the image for more information. If you have a fire wall you will need to give the site permission for third party cookies, private headers, and unblock ads.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on February 12, 2007, 06:42:21 AM
Quote from: Habanero Smoker on February 12, 2007, 04:49:09 AM
Malc;
I know you are a fan of Samuel Adams beer. You may already know about this. I saw a commercial promoting a home brew contest. I believe this is the link to this years entry form.
http://www.samueladams.com/promotions.aspx

Just click on the image for more information. If you have a fire wall you will need to give the site permission for third party cookies, private headers, and unblock ads.
Thanks Hab.  I had heard about it.  If these turn out okay, I was thinking of sending the bitter.  What the heck, you never know.  Everybody raved about it last time.  Almost drinking time on those.  Just getting ready to bottle the lager.  I will post results.
BTW, I think we had talked before that you were in an area that stocked all of the different varities of Sam Addams.  My local grocery store has been getting more and more of these lately.  Tried the double bock last night.  A little heavy for a session beer (believe me, I tried ;D) but quite good.  They also had the cream stout.  I didn't get it, but that is next on my list.  I made a cream stout that was well received by friends, but I have never tried a commercial one before.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Habanero Smoker on February 12, 2007, 02:00:02 PM
I've had the cream stout, which I like very much. Haven't tried the double bock.

Good luck with your entry!
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on February 22, 2007, 03:51:37 PM
Update:  The ESB recipe that I posted turned out great.  Good hop flavor.  Still waiting on the lager.  I think I am going to try mws smoked porter recipe next.  I'll post the results.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on April 12, 2007, 05:46:05 PM
Update: the lager was good, not great, but I think it needs to mature a bit.  We'll see.

I was at the local brew shop the other day, getting supplies for a vanilla porter that I am going to try.  They had hop rhizomes for sale, so I figured what the heck.  I bought three different varieties Chinook, Centenial and Cascade.  I have been reading up on the growing procedures, but was wondering if any of you have done this before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on April 12, 2007, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 12, 2007, 05:46:05 PM
I was at the local brew shop the other day, getting supplies for a vanilla porter that I am going to try.  They had hop rhizomes for sale, so I figured what the heck.  I bought three different varieties Chinook, Centenial and Cascade.  I have been reading up on the growing procedures, but was wondering if any of you have done this before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Oh yes, I grow hops as well. I had to remove about four varieties because they were taking over everthing in their path. I grew them up 6 foot trellis's but soon found out that they grow much taller than that. Currently, I have Nugget and Cascade. Beware Malc, they root through the ground in places not wanted. They are beautiful in the Fall though. I have the Nugget and Cascade grow up and along a cedar fence with trellising and they look great. I get a bounty of hops every September.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Consiglieri on April 14, 2007, 03:03:03 PM
Funny to read this post about hops.  A friend out here began growing his own hops two seasons ago, but had the foresight to plant them behind the storage building, away from the garden and away from the landscaping.

I lack the room to plant hops, but I planted peppermint (my niece calls it the mojito tree) which has been muscling in on the roses (grrr...).   Maybe I need some recipes using mint to keep it in check
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Habanero Smoker on April 14, 2007, 04:17:08 PM
Mojito recipe is the only recipe needed. :)

I have a similar problem with mint. I didn't plant a garden last year, but last summer I was so happy when I discovered mint growing all over the place. I got my muddler out, and started making mojitos for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Consiglieri on April 14, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
Yeah, maybe you're right.  With six shelves on the DBS, I bet I could keep enough people over here long enough to get the mint in check.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on April 15, 2007, 04:32:33 PM
Quote(my niece calls it the mojito tree)
That is hilarious!!!!


Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Consiglieri on April 15, 2007, 05:23:22 PM
Malc: We're a little warped, in case there was any doubt. 
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on April 16, 2007, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: Consiglieri on April 15, 2007, 05:23:22 PM
Malc: We're a little warped, in case there was any doubt. 
I see that.

BTW, I tried my hand at a little baking using the grains from the last batch. I made some pretzels and some bread.  They turned out pretty good.  If anybody is interested, I will post the recipes I used.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: acords on May 03, 2007, 01:08:08 PM
I found an interesting article in the local fish wrap today.  Here is the link

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/1159681.html (http://www.startribune.com/535/story/1159681.html)
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on May 04, 2007, 07:17:52 AM
Nice article.  Although, I would not call the last couple I did cost effective.  At least, not as much as normal.  The Vanilla for one and the fruit for the other put the cost at around $40 per 5 gallon batch.  Not horrible, but not as cheap as usual.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on May 04, 2007, 08:47:23 AM
I'm averaging $50 for a 5 gallon batch. Most of my ingredients are mail order so shipping takes a good chunk. Mind you, when compared to $25 per dozen from a good craft brewer, I'm still saving money and enjoying ale the way I like it and having fun brewing it.

Quote from: Malc on May 04, 2007, 07:17:52 AM
The Vanilla for one and the fruit for the other put the cost at around $40 per 5 gallon batch. 
Malc

Vanilla and fruit? in a beer? ......sounds more like your making a milkshake. ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Wildcat on May 04, 2007, 09:28:39 AM
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Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on May 04, 2007, 09:47:35 AM
Quote from: mws on May 04, 2007, 08:47:23 AM
I'm averaging $50 for a 5 gallon batch. Most of my ingredients are mail order so shipping takes a good chunk. Mind you, when compared to $25 per dozen from a good craft brewer, I'm still saving money and enjoying ale the way I like it and having fun brewing it.

Quote from: Malc on May 04, 2007, 07:17:52 AM
The Vanilla for one and the fruit for the other put the cost at around $40 per 5 gallon batch. 
Malc

Vanilla and fruit? in a beer? ......sounds more like your making a milkshake. ;) ;D ;D

;D I should have been more clear.  1) a vanilla porter  2) a mixed berry ale  Two different beers.  I actually bottled that vanilla porter the other day.  I tried a sample, it was very tasty.  I was going for something a little sweet.  It turned out just like I hoped.  Hopefully aging improves it even more.  The fruit beer was my first foray into that realm.  Still letting that one sit a bit to clear.  Man that fruit creates some sediment in the fermenter.

As far as price goes, I guess I am fortunate enough to have a homebrew supply shop in my town.  Small town to have such a shop, but I am told it is the only one between Pittsburgh, PA and Akron, OH that sells brewing supplies.  Talk about luck, huh?

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: MWS on May 04, 2007, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Malc on April 12, 2007, 05:46:05 PM
I bought three different varieties Chinook, Centenial and Cascade.  I have been reading up on the growing procedures, but was wondering if any of you have done this before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
Malc

Hey Malc, in reply to your hop growing question.....see pics below

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/mw_s/100_1748.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/mw_s/100_1749.jpg)

Nasty things are sprouting up everywhere. I love them and I hate them........


(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/mw_s/100_1750.jpg)

Why I love them?.......my latest IPA....heavily hopped with the nugget variety you see growing up my drain pipe and gas metre.
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Malc on May 07, 2007, 09:54:51 AM
I can see that.  I actually just got mine planted, so nothing like that yet.  We'll see soon I hope.

Malc
Title: Re: Homebrewers
Post by: Payson on July 03, 2007, 09:01:52 AM
My Cascades are growing like weeds! Love 'em!
Gonna brew a Dogfish Head Raison D'Etre style beer tomorrow! Good 4th of July diversion! I've been toying with lightly smoking some malt for a Rauchbier too... Gotta watch overdoing it though.